Where in the New Covenant does it say...
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It's an admonition not a commandment taken from the Commandments as are the others through vs. 9.
Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise)
That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise)
That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
I still don't see where the promise is given in the New Covenant. I see the Bible pointing us back to obedience to the Law for the promise to be received. Are you saying we are under the Law? Is it that only children are under the Law? Either you are dead to the Law or you are not. A dead person can not receive any blessing or promise from honoring their parents.
So let me ask the question again. Where in the New Covenant does it say there is a promise attached to honoring your father and mother and what is the blessing for obeying that commandment?
So let me ask the question again. Where in the New Covenant does it say there is a promise attached to honoring your father and mother and what is the blessing for obeying that commandment?
crossnote answered this . . . .
Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise)
That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
(which is the first commandment with promise)
the promise and therefore a blessing: It may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth
I don't see anything regarding "law" here.
Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise)
That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.
(which is the first commandment with promise)
the promise and therefore a blessing: It may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth
I don't see anything regarding "law" here.
It is how a child should respect their parents and it is how one should honor their parents - that is what it is to me.
Obey your parents for this is right . . .
Obey your parents for this is right . . .
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
is referring to this...
Exo 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
or do you not think the Ten Commandments is God's Law?
God says Obey your mother and father and that there is a promise connected to it - Is it the "first" commandment? What are the other commandments? A commandment or instruction is given to us so that our lives will be blessed. Instruction given to us to allow us to be all that we can be to the glory of God.
Other commandments or instructions: Be ye angry and sin not . . . Let him that stole steal no more . . . . put away lying . . . grieve not the Holy Spirit . . Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth. . . . put away bitterness, anger and wrath . . . . and this is just found in Ephesians 4.
Truth be told I have no idea what you are talking about or the point.
The new covenant has to do with Christ changing the promise of blood sacrifice for our sin that was there in all scripture. Before crucifixion the blood was for atonement, now it was completed to salvation. Before there was Levi priesthood, now there was a Christ priesthood, a better priesthood. Completing what always was, making what always was better in all the ways, we are told by Christ, does not change what was except to make better. We have scripture (scripture is scripture not divided and opposed to each other) that tells us every single place that Christ made things new by making it better.
Christ SAID he did not change what always had been when He made it better. What Christ made better was still there, the new was in making what was better.
Some men say that what Christ did was wash everything away, all the Father had established. Then after he destroyed everything, he made something new. That is not what scripture says. That will not happen, says scripture, until the very last days when this earth will be destroyed and a new one will replace it.
It is still here that God uses man and woman to create a new child. It is still here that the child is to honor the people God used for that purpose. It is honoring God to do that. If the person God used is so sinful they can be labeled with their sin (such as being a liar) the sin is not to be honored, and still there is an obligation to the fact they were used by God for the child's sake.
When something is under the new covenant, that does NOT say it is written in a certain scripture that some men decided to call by different names. We divide time by before the crucifixion and after, and in many ways that is right. However, it is not right to say that God changed His plan for us, or His principles at the crucifixion. It was part of the eternal plan from the beginning.
Christ SAID he did not change what always had been when He made it better. What Christ made better was still there, the new was in making what was better.
Some men say that what Christ did was wash everything away, all the Father had established. Then after he destroyed everything, he made something new. That is not what scripture says. That will not happen, says scripture, until the very last days when this earth will be destroyed and a new one will replace it.
It is still here that God uses man and woman to create a new child. It is still here that the child is to honor the people God used for that purpose. It is honoring God to do that. If the person God used is so sinful they can be labeled with their sin (such as being a liar) the sin is not to be honored, and still there is an obligation to the fact they were used by God for the child's sake.
When something is under the new covenant, that does NOT say it is written in a certain scripture that some men decided to call by different names. We divide time by before the crucifixion and after, and in many ways that is right. However, it is not right to say that God changed His plan for us, or His principles at the crucifixion. It was part of the eternal plan from the beginning.
And you don't think this...
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
is referring to this...
Exo 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
or do you not think the Ten Commandments is God's Law?
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
is referring to this...
Exo 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
or do you not think the Ten Commandments is God's Law?
And you don't think this...
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
is referring to this...
Exo 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
or do you not think the Ten Commandments is God's Law?
Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
is referring to this...
Exo 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
or do you not think the Ten Commandments is God's Law?
What commandment do we make void by our tradition?
Matthew 15:6 then he need not honor his father or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition.
Can you show me the New Covenant commandment that says we must honor our father and mother? If there is none then I can't make it void by my tradition.
Do I also make void the fourth commandment by my Sunday tradition?
Jesus came to magnify the Law and make it honorable. He didn't come to do away with the commandments nor did He come to change the seventh day to the first. He came to teach us how to obey the Law of God by faith working through love. Remember, our faith does not do away with the Law of God, faith inspires us to obey the Law of God.
This thread is going in the direction of God so don't run. Mainline church today say many misleading things that distort what God has said. I'm only trying to bring us back to what God has said so that God can have a people to call His own. A holy nation of kings and priests. This is the heart of God and He can't do this without His Law and He can't do this as long as His Law remains on stone.