Light -> Sun in Genesis.
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I've had this conversation with you before. You've called me a liar in the same post you're threatening to get me banned on. I will reply the same. DO YOU! But I will continue to state as I believe and as the Spirit directs me. You have so much hatred in you. Instead focusing on my banishment, why don't you simply correct me or state what it means to you. Then let her decide what is truth.
T
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
No show me where it says in these 3 verses the things you are stating as truth.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
No show me where it says in these 3 verses the things you are stating as truth.
I don't see how we can use something as simple and straight forward as the creation difference on the first and the fourth day to be something to fight over. It is hard to understand the difference, so we go to the original language to check the translation, it is as simple as that. We are to accept what the Lord tells us and not build big cases around it with our own reasoning.
These facts can be a wonderful basis of study as we follow the Hebrew translation of other scriptures about light and darkness.
These facts can be a wonderful basis of study as we follow the Hebrew translation of other scriptures about light and darkness.
So you just love away and accept only English. I am sure it will get you to GREAT understanding! I am glad the men who worked on translating the bible didn't have your attitude, we would ONLY have scripture in the original language. If everyone refused to look at the original language, we would be up a creek.
J
Why was there light? Because God said, ''let there be...'' That settles it for me! 
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Here is how I've come to understand this.
It helps to step back and picture the actual creation process.
Step 1...Formless empty dark void Earth..
Step 2...God creates light...then separates light from darkness..
At this point you now have a formless earth, and light and darkness separated.
Nothing between the formless Earth and the newly created light.<---Keep this major step in mind...
God creates an expanse called the firmament/sky, that separates the water below, from what is above.
So now we have a layer of something between the formless Earth, and the newly created light on the other side...
Picture it like this...
----------Light------------
----------Firmament/Sky------------
------Formless Earth----------------
So the picturing of the story at this point has something between the light, and Earth, that thing is sky/firmament.
It looks like there is now something getting in the way of light getting to the formless Earth at this point.
What is the darkened Earth to do all dark again??
OH NO!
That's where day 4 comes in. God gives light to the Earth by putting it in the firmament/sky, which is the thing shielding/hiding the light that God created on day 1.
Is there any symbolism.
Maybe.
I mean there is light on one side of the cloak/firmament, and it's blocked, as if a separation between God and man.
How does man get any light?
Well God freely gives it, even though there is something between God and man...aka the firmament/sky.
That's how I see it.
I wouldn't take a bullet for this belief, but it's just how I see it.
It helps to step back and picture the actual creation process.
Step 1...Formless empty dark void Earth..
Step 2...God creates light...then separates light from darkness..
At this point you now have a formless earth, and light and darkness separated.
Nothing between the formless Earth and the newly created light.<---Keep this major step in mind...
God creates an expanse called the firmament/sky, that separates the water below, from what is above.
So now we have a layer of something between the formless Earth, and the newly created light on the other side...
Picture it like this...
----------Light------------
----------Firmament/Sky------------
------Formless Earth----------------
So the picturing of the story at this point has something between the light, and Earth, that thing is sky/firmament.
It looks like there is now something getting in the way of light getting to the formless Earth at this point.
What is the darkened Earth to do all dark again??
OH NO!
That's where day 4 comes in. God gives light to the Earth by putting it in the firmament/sky, which is the thing shielding/hiding the light that God created on day 1.
Is there any symbolism.
Maybe.
I mean there is light on one side of the cloak/firmament, and it's blocked, as if a separation between God and man.
How does man get any light?
Well God freely gives it, even though there is something between God and man...aka the firmament/sky.
That's how I see it.
I wouldn't take a bullet for this belief, but it's just how I see it.
Truth is conveyed to man only through the construct of human language. This is simply part of the process of the revelation continuum. The Holy Spirit conveyed the truth to the apostles, They in turn recorded that truth. This same truth has been preserved by God in the form of a written document. The Bible is the only document that reveals the mind of God. As such, it is the linguistic from of revelation. What ever is revealed from the mind of God is set forth is the form of a written text. This is why I say that truth is in the grammatical structure of the text.
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If you want to get real funky with this fourth day light thing.
There may be a pattern that correlates four with light.
Picture seven empty slots in a list.
Slot four has a light reference.
In the days of creation light is in slot four.
The fourth trumpet in the trumpets.
Rev 8
The fourth bowl Revelation 16
There may be a pattern that correlates four with light.
Picture seven empty slots in a list.
Slot four has a light reference.
In the days of creation light is in slot four.
The fourth trumpet in the trumpets.
Rev 8
The fourth bowl Revelation 16