Islam is evil

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Reborn

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This issue is not really debatable for the follower of Jesus Christ period.....
True. Thinking we can change anyone's minds on what they believe strongly about- is in vain.
Why these threads are important to discuss is because it IS important to show exactly where Islam/Mohammed/Quran plays into Bible prophecy, history, and the role they have in the last days.

I see it as a VERY important issue....not to debate fruitlessly....not to change Muslims minds,....
..... but for the Christians on CC who might not know that this is a topic that IS covered by God in the Bible.
 
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The other part of the issue between Christian and Muslim is this:


If one believes that the Bible is the authentic Word of the living God, then one must know that it is the Author of the same who has set the controversy between them .... on purpose .... and the final results have already been revealed therein

Those who understand his truth must adhere to it and the witness to even a Muslim terrorist must be the same .... or anyone for that matter

At the same time this controversy is set in scripture between Israel [Issac and Jacob] and the adherents of Islam [Ishmael and Esau [Edom]].... and the final results are already tallied .... a believing remnant of Israel is going to have the victory .... not for their own good behavior, but for the Glory of Jesus Christ

The Christian witness needs to be the same to the Muslin and for anyone [even to one of Israel today] .... not an easy task

So the Christian must tell it like it is .... there is no room for discounting the fact that Islam is a false religion .... no appeasement

If you are called to the task make certain that you know your facts and do not waver .... otherwise you will fail

And this is the best and direct witness to the Muslim that can be made .... nothing else will work

I know by experience .... and when it does work the Muslim will get it and will never turn back

It is possible ..... listen to the former Muslim terrorist walid Shoebat, he is on the Internet
 
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If you are called to the task make certain that you know your facts and do not waver .... otherwise you will fail

And this is the best and direct witness to the Muslim that can be made .... nothing else will work
Great advice. Although my homework is thorough, neat and complete - unfortunately I don't think the class wants to hear it.
Proper/complete explanations to back things up, would take pages and pages to do correctly.
I have ran into a few who go PM on these issues with me, and that's all I really hoped for.
I know I won't change minds in 4 posts.....never really wanted or expected to.

Plant seeds, and God will water it if it proves to be truth...that's all.
God Bless.
 
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You are correct ..... planting is good and necessary

What come up later we may not know

Once these things are stated .... the Lord can draw .... if He wants
 
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Ok @Phil.
I see that you have come back with the Satan=Islam stuff.

Ok, I ask you a question.

So why why does Satans Army lets say or group, have many followers and is increasing by the day.

There are 1.5 billion of "Satanists" on this Earth. Why is it on course to become the most dominant.

Is there any quote in the Bible say, where Satans group will be in a far large number than the "believers"
Why are you even here if you don't believe the bible? You really think numbers infer credibility? Ridiculous! learn the bible and then you can discuss it with me!

Romans 3:4 "God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged."
 
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phil112

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..................I'm pretty sure the church in Rome thought your breakaway sect of Protestants were evil and probably burnt your forefathers for it too.................
Indeed they did. So you tell me, which one of us is more likely closer to God?
 
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Incorrect. First, I shared scholarly information with you from Islamic scholars. I'm not the author so it's not mine. Secondly, your information was woefully incomplete and repeating yourself cannot make it complete.

Previous link referenced for completeness: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/99961-islam-evil-16.html#post1785083

If you would like verses from the Qur'an and other Islamic epistemological documents related to this discussion, this is one possible starting point: TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Taqiyya and Lying

Finally, it's a red herring to invoke what Judaism and/or Christianity teaches on this topic as a way to try and morally justify the lying that Islam condones. What Judaism or any other religious worldview besides Islam teaches with respect to this topic is a different (but related) discussion.


Wow, you quote what I posted then ignore it and use your own information.
Wow.

And then you use a verse from the Qur'an to justify your point when it has no link whatsoever. This truly is funny.

Taqiyah, as mentioned is Lying only if there is a situation where you fear for your life.
Like a person putting a Gun to your head.

And I also added that the Jews practice something similar seeming as you Christians always like to mention the Jews on all your sayings.
 
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Kerry

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Islam is about hate and kill those who will not convert and when they run out killing Christians they start killing each other. Documented and history supports.
 
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My comments


Satan's beast of Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-4; 17:8-18 has a history of ruling the populations of Middle Eastern kingdoms, and they are all documented in the scriptures of the Bible .... and secular historical records agree

This beast will rule again over 2 more Middle Eastern kingdoms .... one after the other

The populations of the Middle East that have always been there since the flood are primarily Muslim today and in place to serve the beast when he is released from the abyss

It is the controversy between Israel and the Muslims that is seen in the prophetic scriptures [Isaac and Jacob vs Ishmael and Esau]

The cult religion of the beast in the human little horn of Daniel's visions will be Islam and this following will be supported by Muslim clerical persuasion .... the false prophet

Read about this in Revelation 13

The worship of Allah is the Muslim tragedy .... this imaginary pagan "god" does not even exist and was selected by the false prophet Mohammed from a pantheon of Assyrian/Babylonian "gods" .... in this case the crescent moon "god" Allah

This same symbol is still the banner of Islam today [black flag/green flag]

"Allah is great and Mohammed is his prophet" ..... this is the Muslim chant

Actually the Muslims are worshiping Satan ..... the champion of all paganism and even the later contrived monotheistic religions of Judaism and Islam .... Satan is the "god" of this present world of lost humanity

And it is this one who will give his beast in the little horn his power and authority .... his mimic [2 Thessalonians 2:8-12]

Satan is the epitome of evil in his futile but relentless ambition to usurp the only true God of creation Jesus Christ

.... the master deceiver of humanity who will play out his pathetic attempt to prevent the Lord's coming millennial kingdom upon the earth [Revelation 12:12] .... which will be centered in Jerusalem ..... His city .... the great controversy over which Israel and the Muslims struggle

Essentially all religions of men are satanically driven and "evil", even the apostates of monotheistic Christianity

However, Satan has nested with his focus and ill-fated designs in the Middle East according the visions of the Bible prophets ..... the region is clearly defined by all of them

Is Islam evil? .... no doubt

Billions on the earth have been and will be draw in .... and their fate will be eternal destruction

And so will it go with all who are not followers of the one and only true God of the Bible .... Jesus Christ
 
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Correction

"Billions on the earth have been and will be drawn in .... and their fate will be eternal destruction"


The editor function on this forum is to restrictive and should be adjusted .... the edit window is too short
 
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Isil militants have published a document outlining how sex slaves can be treated, including with beatings and daily rapes. The pamphlet, which is dated Muharram 1436 (October/November 2014) and was printed by ISIS's publishing house, Al-Himma Library, is titled Su'al wa-Jawab fi al-Sabi wa-Riqab ("Questions and Answers on Taking Captives and Slaves").

The document was obtained by the US-based Middle East Media Research Institute who published full details of it on a website.

It was written by Isil's "Department for Prisoners and Women's Affairs", presumably, says the MEMRI, in response to the uproar caused by the many reports this summer that ISIS had taken Yazidi girls and women as sex slaves.

It explains in detail when a female can be raped by her captors, some of whom pay as little as £27 for each of their victims.

Question 18: May a man use the al-'azl [technique] with his female slave?

A: A man is allowed [to use] al-'azl during intercourse with his female slave with or without her consent.

Question 19: Is it permissible to beat a female slave?

A: It is permissible to beat the female slave as a [form of] darb ta'deeb [disciplinary beating], [but] it is forbidden to [use] darb al-takseer [literally, breaking beating], [darb] al-tashaffi [beating for the purpose of achieving gratification], or [darb] al-ta'dheeb [torture beating]. Further, it is forbidden to hit the face.

The vast majority of their victims are women and children from the Yazidi region who were kidnapped during the Mount Sinjar massacre in August of this year.

It lays out the "rules" for how to deal with captives in a simple Question and Answer format so even stupid militants can understand.

Questions include "It is permissible to have intercourse with a female captive immediately after taking her possession?" and "If the female captive was impregnated by her owner, can he then sell her?"

Even children are not safe from rape at the hands of the militants, with guidance on intercourse with a pre-pubescent child stating it is acceptable: "if she is fit for intercourse". If she is not, then her captor must make do with forcing other sex acts on the girl.

Question 13: Is it permissible to have intercourse with a female slave who has not reached puberty?

A: It is permissible to have intercourse with the female slave who hasn't reached puberty if she is fit for intercourse; however if she is not fit for intercourse, then it is enough to enjoy her without intercourse.

It says that slave women, known as al-Sabi, can be taken from any group of people with whom Isil militants consider themselves at war and makes a detailed case for why Christians and Jews are permissible as slaves but ex-Muslims are not allowed to be captured.

The rape of a female captive, the document explains, is perfectly acceptable even for married men and in one paragraph the document even says that virgins can be raped immediately after their ‘owners’ purchase then.

For those who are not virgins, their uterus must be "purified" first and it even says that it is legal to have sex with a child, providing she is "fit for intercourse".

THE PRICE OF HUMAN MISERY - THE FULL ISIS PRICE LIST FOR SLAVES A woman aged 40 to 50 - 50,000 dinars (£27) A woman aged 30 to 40 - 75,000 dinars (£40) A woman aged 20 to 30 - 100,000 dinars (£53) A girl, aged 10 to 20 - 150,000 dinars (£80) A child under nine - 200,000 dinars (£106)

Source: Islamic State (ISIS) Releases Pamphlet On Female Slaves

Note: It is rumored that Western women are preferred for Islamic sex slavery; however, due to their hatred of everything Western it's assumed the abuse of such women would be incredible. Do you really want to keep voting for more Islamic immigration into the West ladies?
 
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Islamists have always been abusive and degrading toward their women even since the days Mohammed himself who was one of an extremely perverted life style .... and so it is today .... in the open

The Koranic directives towards women is horribly maligned even among those of Islam that claim their religion as one of peace

Daniel 11:36-37 gives telling reference to this same behavior toward women displayed by the future little horn and king of the northern Middle East .... the coming Caliph of Islam
 
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Kerry

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Convert or die yeah that's evil.
 
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"The Middle East Media Research Institute says the Research and Fatwa Department of the Islamic State released the document titled “Questions and Answers on Taking Captives and Slaves,” which it claims was printed by the militant group’s publishing house.

The pamphlet–which MEMRI says was posted on a pro-Islamic State Twitter account–answers more than 20 questions and states, among other things, that it is OK to have sex with non-Muslim slaves, including adolescents, and that it is also acceptable to beat and trade them."

Pamphlet provides Islamic State guidelines for sex slaves
 
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Now we have the murder of 12 people in France in a terrorist attack on the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo at the hands of Islamist extremists. I think, perhaps, there can be peace in the world until Islam is extinguished. I would really like to see a total ban placed on Islamic immigration to the West.
 
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I think, perhaps, there can be peace in the world until Islam is extinguished. I would really like to see a total ban placed on Islamic immigration to the West.
Phil, I am glad you understood me, despite the typo. I meant to say there can be no peace in the world until Islam is extinguished. That may sound too harsh, and I do personally know some very kind Muslims, but I think the writings of Mohammed themselves are the problem. Even an atheist such as myself recognizes that the New Testament at its core is a religion of peace and accommodation. The Koran is not. That attack today in France, and so many others, is just a further demonstration of a problem that, I am afraid, is only going to get worse.
 
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Kerry

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Phil, I am glad you understood me, despite the typo. I meant to say there can be no peace in the world until Islam is extinguished. That may sound too harsh, and I do personally know some very kind Muslims, but I think the writings of Mohammed themselves are the problem. Even an atheist such as myself recognizes that the New Testament at its core is a religion of peace and accommodation. The Koran is not. That attack today in France, and so many others, is just a further demonstration of a problem that, I am afraid, is only going to get worse.

Keep preaching brother, you preacher you. I have to say Cycel that at some point in your life God called you to preach his Gospel, maybe even a pastor.