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See this is what I dont get about you Christians or those like you to be specific.
Why is the talk always leading onto speaking out against those vile people.
You say you have not seen a Muslim speak out.
Ok, if you want to play that game, I seriously dont mind joining in.
I have not seen a single Christian condemn the;
Lords Resistance Army,
the Central African Republic killing of Muslims by Non Muslims,
The Serb-Bosnian attrocities,
and many more.
Have I won the game?
Why is the talk always leading onto speaking out against those vile people.
You say you have not seen a Muslim speak out.
Ok, if you want to play that game, I seriously dont mind joining in.
I have not seen a single Christian condemn the;
Lords Resistance Army,
the Central African Republic killing of Muslims by Non Muslims,
The Serb-Bosnian attrocities,
and many more.
Have I won the game?
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Fortunately for me Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior does not teach al taqiyya so therefore I have no reason to lie. But because your beliefs encourage you to be deceptive, you are left also in doubt of everyone else. Lies propagate lies and foster nothing but skepticism and doubting in the heart.
You lure people in with an "invitation" to ask questions, then accuse Christians as a whole of abusing you on this site, and attack me when I was trying to engage in a decent discussion with you.
My communication with you is done.
You lure people in with an "invitation" to ask questions, then accuse Christians as a whole of abusing you on this site, and attack me when I was trying to engage in a decent discussion with you.
My communication with you is done.
So every Muslim is a Liar in your mind.
Wow. What a world we live in.
Did I not already explain Taqiyah.
Seriously, I wonder if some of you have eyes.
You have completely ignored my post there.
This truly is amusing.
Accuse? Rightly I should.
You and the other have blatantly called me a liar. Now are you going to deny that.
Wow. What a world we live in.
Did I not already explain Taqiyah.
Seriously, I wonder if some of you have eyes.
You have completely ignored my post there.
This truly is amusing.
Accuse? Rightly I should.
You and the other have blatantly called me a liar. Now are you going to deny that.
Sorry, ...not really trying to "change" anything.
You have your beliefs, I get it. In my notes above, I did state that I do not back all those who do evil things in the name of Christ just because they claim Him.
I am simply writing back to say, I am not ganging up on you with the others, so there is no "game" to win here, sorry you feel that way.
(.....and although I can play around at times--Truth and salvation isn't a game to me, sorry.)
The whole 'ISIS is wrong to me' is not even close to a defense for your overall religion.
Surf CC--take it in. My guess is that you are curious about Christ, so that is why you are on here?
If not. I'm sorry you feel this way....because there is only one Truth, and it doesn't come with terrible stipulations.
You have your beliefs, I get it. In my notes above, I did state that I do not back all those who do evil things in the name of Christ just because they claim Him.
I am simply writing back to say, I am not ganging up on you with the others, so there is no "game" to win here, sorry you feel that way.
(.....and although I can play around at times--Truth and salvation isn't a game to me, sorry.)
The whole 'ISIS is wrong to me' is not even close to a defense for your overall religion.
Surf CC--take it in. My guess is that you are curious about Christ, so that is why you are on here?
If not. I'm sorry you feel this way....because there is only one Truth, and it doesn't come with terrible stipulations.
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Ok @Phil.
I see that you have come back with the Satan=Islam stuff.
Ok, I ask you a question.
So why why does Satans Army lets say or group, have many followers and is increasing by the day.
There are 1.5 billion of "Satanists" on this Earth. Why is it on course to become the most dominant.
Is there any quote in the Bible say, where Satans group will be in a far large number than the "believers"
I see that you have come back with the Satan=Islam stuff.
Ok, I ask you a question.
So why why does Satans Army lets say or group, have many followers and is increasing by the day.
There are 1.5 billion of "Satanists" on this Earth. Why is it on course to become the most dominant.
Is there any quote in the Bible say, where Satans group will be in a far large number than the "believers"
If you think that all other religions other than your obscure branch of protestant Christianity is complete evil, then there is not much to discuss beyond there.
I'm pretty sure the church in Rome thought your breakaway sect of Protestants were evil and probably burnt your forefathers for it too.
Or... maybe we can be a little more tolerable to understand that a baby born in some remote village in the middle east and only had one option: Islam, is not an inherently evil person, and that even Jesus finds a way to work with and judge people in those religions?
But of course, with God, everything is possible, but to the angry right Wing American male... concepts of the world are very limited.
I'm pretty sure the church in Rome thought your breakaway sect of Protestants were evil and probably burnt your forefathers for it too.
Or... maybe we can be a little more tolerable to understand that a baby born in some remote village in the middle east and only had one option: Islam, is not an inherently evil person, and that even Jesus finds a way to work with and judge people in those religions?
But of course, with God, everything is possible, but to the angry right Wing American male... concepts of the world are very limited.
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It's true that taqiyya is an Islamic legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts while they are in fear or at risk of significant persecution; however, the lying certainly doesn't stop there.
Lying is acceptable in Islam under a range of conditions including Muslims lying to Muslims to smooth over differences in certain circumstances and Muslims lying to advance the cause of Islam including, in some cases, by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
Taqiyya - Lying by saying something that isn't true.
Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."
The Islamic doctrine of taqiyya permits Muslims to actively deceive non-Muslims—above and beyond the context of “self-preservation,” as is commonly believed.
One of the few books exclusively devoted to the subject, At-Taqiyya fi’l-Islam (“Taqiyya in Islam”) make this unequivocally clear. Written (in Arabic) by Dr. Sami Mukaram, a former Islamic studies professor at the American University of Beirut and author of some twenty-five books on Islam, the book demonstrates the ubiquity and broad applicability of taqiyya in its opening pages:
Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it … We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream … Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era.
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See: Sami Mukaram, At-Taqiyya fi ’l-Islam (London: Mu’assisat at-Turath ad-Druzi, 2004), p. 7.
Read: Taqiyya about Taqiyya | Raymond Ibrahim
Lying is acceptable in Islam under a range of conditions including Muslims lying to Muslims to smooth over differences in certain circumstances and Muslims lying to advance the cause of Islam including, in some cases, by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
Taqiyya - Lying by saying something that isn't true.
Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."
The Islamic doctrine of taqiyya permits Muslims to actively deceive non-Muslims—above and beyond the context of “self-preservation,” as is commonly believed.
One of the few books exclusively devoted to the subject, At-Taqiyya fi’l-Islam (“Taqiyya in Islam”) make this unequivocally clear. Written (in Arabic) by Dr. Sami Mukaram, a former Islamic studies professor at the American University of Beirut and author of some twenty-five books on Islam, the book demonstrates the ubiquity and broad applicability of taqiyya in its opening pages:
Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it … We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream … Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era.
See: Sami Mukaram, At-Taqiyya fi ’l-Islam (London: Mu’assisat at-Turath ad-Druzi, 2004), p. 7.
Read: Taqiyya about Taqiyya | Raymond Ibrahim
Wow, you quote what I posted then ignore it and use your own information.
Wow.
And then you use a verse from the Qur'an to justify your point when it has no link whatsoever. This truly is funny.
Taqiyah, as mentioned is Lying only if there is a situation where you fear for your life.
Like a person putting a Gun to your head.
And I also added that the Jews practice something similar seeming as you Christians always like to mention the Jews on all your sayings.
Wow.
And then you use a verse from the Qur'an to justify your point when it has no link whatsoever. This truly is funny.
Taqiyah, as mentioned is Lying only if there is a situation where you fear for your life.
Like a person putting a Gun to your head.
And I also added that the Jews practice something similar seeming as you Christians always like to mention the Jews on all your sayings.
My comment
This issue is not really debatable for the follower of Jesus Christ period
Here is why
John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
It is made quite clear and distinctive .... the line is drawn
Good Muslim or bad Muslim is not a part of the equation .... it simply does not matter
There is no room for degree here
It is all about any individual's standing alone
Jesus has said that one is either for Him ...... or against Him .... no shading [Matthew 12:30]
One either believes that the Bible is the Word of the living God ..... or they do not
The day is coming when all will be revealed and one must make the choice
This issue is not really debatable for the follower of Jesus Christ period
Here is why
John
3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
It is made quite clear and distinctive .... the line is drawn
Good Muslim or bad Muslim is not a part of the equation .... it simply does not matter
There is no room for degree here
It is all about any individual's standing alone
Jesus has said that one is either for Him ...... or against Him .... no shading [Matthew 12:30]
One either believes that the Bible is the Word of the living God ..... or they do not
The day is coming when all will be revealed and one must make the choice