so what your actually saying is SDA is demonic?? hmmmmm, you are entitled to your personal veiw, id encourage you to keep it just that, that doesnt bring unity, just division. what has david koresh(he had his own twisted doctrine) got to do with slandering a entire denomination, they say saturday worship the sabbath , and ?? thats extreme you failed to mention which flavor of denomination you are brother, just so you give everyone else an oppurtunity to refute its doctrines too, i wont, i assure you
with love
You just set up a straw man and then attacked it before insuinuating ad hominem all while attempting to compartmentalize what was simply an accurate presentation of David Koresh's and the Branch Davidian involvement with the Seventh Day Adventist church. History and the truth should be respected and here you have chosen to ignore it and not respect it.
When I communicate with people who act like you do, cult members that simply will not deal with the facts but constantly attempt to twist the conversation into some kind of a personal attack against those that share athentic factual information and history, it reminds me of how Paul the Apostle strove with his opponents in Galatia.
The Galatian heresy added a means to salvation other than faith in Christ just like the Judaizer cults do. They denied Christ was a sufficient savior Paul's opponents argued that Paul was preaching you can sin--do anything you wish. They made Christ to promote sin. Paul counters by saying, "I have been crucified with Christ" and "I live by faith in the Son of God." He professes, One is justified by faith and one lives by faith. What is then the meaning of Christ's death?
Paul shames the Galatians for their lack of understanding of the nature of God's saving work in Jesus Christ just like us authentic Christians shame the cults for their lack of understanding of the nature of God's saving work in Jesus Christ. While their perverted teachers insist on law as the basis for justification, Paul emphasized Christ as the basis (chapter 3).
Paul's argument begins by asking about the source of the Holy Spirit. Did the Spirit come to them as the result of their ability to keep legal commands? Or, did the Spirit come because of the work of Christ? Faith in Christ, not law, is the means to justification. He supports his case by reference to Abraham and a reference to Habakkuk (Hab. 2:4). Law can only condemn the violator; God redeems us through Jesus Christ.
Paul further makes his case with reference to the intent of God's promise to Abraham. God's promise, he says, was to Abraham and his seed, that is, Christ. The Law of Moses was given to Israel four centuries after the promise was made (Gen. 12:1-3). It was not the fulfillment of the promise. The Law became necessary because of sin, but was intended only as a temporary measure until the coming of Jesus. The Law was not opposed to the promise; it simply did not provide justification or righteousness.
Why is one justified by faith?
From the negative point of view, we have failed by law, and from the positive point of view, Christ redeemed us from the curse pronounced by the Law of Moses. The Law required perfection (3:10). Law and faith are different principles. "Law" implies doing it. Faith implies acceptance of what another has done. Law requires perfect performance. Christ redeemed us and what he did is sufficient. There is only one right thing to do--accept it! (3:13-14). Justification by faith is confirmed. The purpose of the Law is to lead to Christ (3:15-25).
The Galatians had become sons of God through faith. When they were baptized into Christ, they were clothed with Christ. Baptism, an expression of their faith, derives its meaning from the death of Christ. Being clothed with Christ also made them one in Christ with every other believer. Together, they became heirs according to the promise God made to Abraham.
Now that "faith" has come in Christ, the Law has no more control; it no longer has the power to condemn. So, why would one want to submit to the Law--or any system based on law? The issue was critical for the Galatians. It remains so for modern people. Salvation is a gift of God, made possible by the blood of Christ. It cannot be earned by keeping a law of any sort. The basis of justification, righteousness, and salvation is the work of Christ. It is accessed through faith in him.
Well praise the Lord! Another opportunity to share the truth of the New Testament resulted in sound teaching. Thank you for the opportunity for that.
Feel free to refocus back on the discussion and away from ad hominem insinuations and straw man fallacies like you engaged in. They serve no purpose other than to take the discussion away from the issue and the issue here are the counterfeit Gospels cults propigate deceiving and misleading many, like the Seventh Day Adventist Church did with David Koresh... a person whose life could have had a very different ending if he had actually been saved and properly discipled with authentic Christian New Testament theology rather than the counterfeit teachings of the Ellen G. White.
