A few of my Revelation notes.

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nathan3

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Off-topic slightly, I know, but...

Personally, I believe the Rapture happens between the sixth and seventh seal being opened.

Revelations 6 speaks of the seals and verses 12-17 says,
Just notes to consider.


The seals are not in chronological order. More in order of importance. Why ? Because if you did take them in order, you have Antichrist appearing in the first seal. That means people are deceived already by the time you get to the sixth seal.

Christ is mentioned coming in the Last Trump. The seals are not mentioned in I Thess 4: or 1 Cor 15: .

Notice in Matthew 24: 23- 26 Christ warns us of a false Christ. In Verses 27-28

27.
The second coming of Jesus Christ will be just as sure as the sun comes up every morning, and sets in the evening, that is the absolute reliability that what Christ says, will come true. That is why its important to study and pay close attention.


28.
The word of "eagles", should be translated "vultures". The carcass are the spiritually dead to the truth ( those deceived into worshiping the false christ ), and these vultures of Satan, the Antichrist will feed on every spiritually dead ( In a spiritual sense ). Look at Job 39: 30 ; " Where the slain are, i.e on the field of battle. In this case its a spiritual battle . A.V. reads "he". ( Matthew 24:28; Luke 17:37.) ( all these names Antichrist, false Christ, Son of Perdition, are all the same one Satan .)




In verse 29 Christ says " Immediately after the tribulation " Not before, nor during. But after that tribulation.

Verse 30 teaches " and Then, shall appear Christ in heaven coming .And then that is when the mourning you read the sixth seal teaches . Because, its after everyone has allowed, themselves to be deceived by ignoring the love of this truth, so instead believe the lies of that tribulation Christ comes After.


31 the elect are here also, of all peoples, because Revelation says as much ( Revelation 7:9 ).

The Parable of the fig tree is given in the rest of the chapter.
 
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nathan3

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If anyone wants to chat about this farther, let me know : ) Just join the thread. naturally, or the chat room.
 
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Trax

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Just notes to consider.


The seals are not in chronological order. More in order of importance. Why ? Because if you did take them in order, you have Antichrist appearing in the first seal. That means people are deceived already by the time you get to the sixth seal.

Christ is mentioned coming in the Last Trump. The seals are not mentioned in I Thess 4: or 1 Cor 15: .

Notice in Matthew 24: 23- 26 Christ warns us of a false Christ. In Verses 27-28

27.
The second coming of Jesus Christ will be just as sure as the sun comes up every morning, and sets in the evening, that is the absolute reliability that what Christ says, will come true. That is why its important to study and pay close attention.


28.
The word of "eagles", should be translated "vultures". The carcass are the spiritually dead to the truth ( those deceived into worshiping the false christ ), and these vultures of Satan, the Antichrist will feed on every spiritually dead ( In a spiritual sense ). Look at Job 39: 30 ; " Where the slain are, i.e on the field of battle. In this case its a spiritual battle . A.V. reads "he". ( Matthew 24:28; Luke 17:37.) ( all these names Antichrist, false Christ, Son of Perdition, are all the same one Satan .)




In verse 29 Christ says " Immediately after the tribulation " Not before, nor during. But after that tribulation.

Verse 30 teaches " and Then, shall appear Christ in heaven coming .And then that is when the mourning you read the sixth seal teaches . Because, its after everyone has allowed, themselves to be deceived by ignoring the love of this truth, so instead believe the lies of that tribulation Christ comes After.


31 the elect are here also, of all peoples, because Revelation says as much ( Revelation 7:9 ).

The Parable of the fig tree is given in the rest of the chapter.
The seals are numbered, to let you know THE order. With the book of Revelation, it never
fails, people will absolutely go to extremes to confuse themselves.

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy,
and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

When you make yourself believe the seals are not in order, you are not keeping
the things written in the book. You do not get a blessing.
 
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nathan3

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The seals are numbered, to let you know THE order. With the book of Revelation, it never
fails, people will absolutely go to extremes to confuse themselves.
The seals, are in order with the signs He gave , in Mark 13, Luke 21 , Matthew 24. There are seven there, there are seven seals.

There are more witnesses that show, Christ returns in the Trumps. Paul wrote of this in many places.

The first, seal. you have the Anti ( in-stead . Greek ) of Christ coming in. The seals, are numbered , in order of importance for teaching reasons .
 
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nathan3

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It's good to know what the seals are teaching too.


The first seal for example.


Mark 13:5 "And Jesus answering them began to say, "Take heed lest any many deceive you:"

deception.

Revelation 6:1 "And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, "Come and see."

The first seal Jesus gives us. It is not a secret, but something that is required of all of God's elect to see and understand.

Revelation 6:2 "And I saw, and behold, a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."
 
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Trax

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There are more witnesses that show, Christ returns in the Trumps. Paul wrote of this in many places.
Paul couldn't have written about it because the Revelation of the trumpet judgements had not been
given yet, when Paul wrote his letters. The trumpets of judgement are not for the church, because
the church isn't appointed to God's wrath.
 
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nathan3

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Paul couldn't have written about it because the Revelation of the trumpet judgements had not been
given yet, when Paul wrote his letters. The trumpets of judgement are not for the church, because
the church isn't appointed to God's wrath.
No where in revelation does it state God pours out his wrath on the good. Its very specific those that are bad. But the church is present throughout the Tribulation. Notes for that are in my first post here.

Christ taught Paul, and would know these things. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 ; 1 Corinthians 15:50-53.
 
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nathan3

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It's more a question of if your deceived or not. A Christian can only escape the hour of temptation if you do not find it tempting. Revelation reveals to us God's plans for the future and our role in it. If we dont take that warning and learn it. Then we only have ourselves to blame for the deception thats coming. Paul says as much in II Thess 2: .