A QUESTION ABOUT ALL

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John 6

37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Another awesome response and shows clear understanding of the OP and how CONTEXT dictates the use of ALL as INSPIRED by GOD.....BRAVO
 
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2 Timothy 4:16 At my first answer no man stood with me, but all men forsook me: I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.

Of course implied is 'all' within Paul's circle.
Another good point and understood in context dictates that it was those men within the (circle) of Paul's associates.....BRAVO...Having said that....Again...the key to the use of ALL in context and understood by the context means ALL those tied to PAUL......!
 
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#43
I don't understand the question,
I would like to have mashed potatoes with my meal.
Thank you.
The question is rather simple.....When viewed in Context and by Context does the word all means ALL?

Rather simple...LIKE

1. I was talking to a bunch of neighbors and ALL of them were listening<----does this mean ALL my neighbors or does this mean ALL of my neighbors that I was talking to?
2. ALL of the saved will be in the presence of GOD<----Some of the saved or ALL of the saved will be in the presence of GOD?

and the many other examples listed....POINT being when all is viewed in and by Context it means ALL, and GOD is the one who inspired the use of ALL in all of it's various uses and contexts that ALL is found in........!
 
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If you are saying we must answer the question as if we were working with a computer that uses only the on/off of electricity, then it is a simple NO. Scripture is written in spirit and truth by a God who is of the spirit and uses the physical world for communicating the spirit. We are NEVER to read a scripture legalistically and without seeing how it fits with other scriptures. The word all, read as a word standing alone without any other words in a sentence, is never to be read that way in scripture.
I agree and that is why I qualified it by the use of CONTEXT as context dictates the circumstances of the use of ALL and if it means ALL or ALL of a particular group, action, deeds etc.......
 
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"All" is one of the more simpler words we have people. But to fit your various doctrines you would even change its meaning.
This statement is out of left field and really has no bearing on the OP.....as I qualified the use of ALL based upon context and through context....NO one is taking the word and trying to FIT it to anything.......!
 
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"All" is not always used as all-inclusive, "all" can also mean everything of a limited context, or under Gods dominion. In 2 Chronicles 36:23, Cyrus' empire is said to have encompassed "all the kingdoms of the earth." But there were kingdoms in the Far East which were surely not included. Acts 11:28 speaks of a famine "throughout all the world," yet its not likely it really meant the whole world.

I agree with you and again I did qualify my OP by asking the question based upon Context and viewed through CONTEXT....So........God obviously INSPIRED the HOLY men of GOD who gave the scriptures...so HOW do we Jive an inspired statement that cannot be true if through out ALL the world was not literally meant?<-------JUST a question...so don't jump to a conclusion that I am saying that the quote is false or misleading.....

As a matter of fact this question is for everyone......

Does this mean throughout ALL the KNOWN world to the disciples...does this mean through out ALL the land of (Palestine) etc........?
HOW can we determine what is actually meant if what was written was not actually meant?

I have a hard time believing that GOD would inspire VAGUE words and or a context that we can only guess at or surmise over....!
 
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This statement is out of left field and really has no bearing on the OP.....as I qualified the use of ALL based upon context and through context....NO one is taking the word and trying to FIT it to anything.......!
All is all, sir. When Christ was lifted from the earth, all men were drawn to Him. Thus who did the Father give Christ? All men! Those who hear His voice now, AND those who do not hear or follow now but will one day.
 
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MAYBE take the time to read as I did give context...This is not a trick question......IN CONTEXT and when USED IN CONTEXT does ALL MEAN ALL...quite simple....you do understand English right?
It's not hard to understand what you are saying. When discussing the word of God context is important. ALL scripture presented should be considered by ALL who contribute. Superfluous remarks that continue post after post can be disregarded. Scripture compared with other scripture must be considered as cohesive to itself. Truth is never achieved by using only certain scriptures to endorse doctrines of man that are contradictory with ALL scripture in CONTEXT. Nothing of the truth is against itself, so ALL things are to be considered, explained and confirmed with other scripture in order for edification to be enhanced according to God's will. Those actions are graceful to say the least, because a house divided against itself cannot stand.
 
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It's not hard to understand what you are saying. When discussing the word of God context is important. ALL scripture presented should be considered by ALL who contribute. Superfluous remarks that continue post after post can be disregarded. Scripture compared with other scripture must be considered as cohesive to itself. Truth is never achieved by using only certain scriptures to endorse doctrines of man that are contradictory with ALL scripture in CONTEXT. Nothing of the truth is against itself, so ALL things are to be considered, explained and confirmed with other scripture in order for edification to be enhanced according to God's will. Those actions are graceful to say the least, because a house divided against itself cannot stand.
I agree and without a doubt all scripture is to be considered when dealing with anything out of the word of God......
 
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All is all, sir. When Christ was lifted from the earth, all men were drawn to Him. Thus who did the Father give Christ? All men! Those who hear His voice now, AND those who do not hear or follow now but will one day.
This is not what you said in the first post....so did I misunderstand what you wrote in your first post.....

Originally Posted by Flamingspirit
"All" is one of the more simpler words we have people. But to fit your various doctrines you would even change its meaning.
 
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This is not what you said in the first post....so did I misunderstand what you wrote in your first post.....

Originally Posted by Flamingspirit
"All" is one of the more simpler words we have people. But to fit your various doctrines you would even change its meaning.
Yes if all does not mean all. The first post was in response to the one that stated that Christ will take some and reject the rest, upon which I pointed out that all that comes to Him He will in no wise cast out.
 
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Yes if all does not mean all. The first post was in response to the one that stated that Christ will take some and reject the rest, upon which I pointed out that all that comes to Him He will in no wise cast out.
Cool and I agree with that for sure....all that you have given me I have LOST none of them.... :)