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The Sadducee taught there was no resurrection, and who knowswhat other apostasy they taught. Among other rabbinical teachings the Pharisees regarded teh law and taught it without mercy, faith and justice..

The Israel founded physically by Joshua and cemented by the Word of God had ceased to exist in any manner close to how it was founded long before Jesus came to save all mankind, the Jeww first and then the Greek............
According to Jesus the pharisees did not teach the law, they taught the traditions of man, Matt.15:3, Mark 7:8, Mark 7:13, and they are not Jews they are of the synagogue of satan, they are the decedents of cain, they are the bad fig.
Jesus told his apostle to go preach to the lost sheep of the house of Israel,Matt.10:6, thats the twelve tribes, they succeed the twelve tribe are Christian nations today, below is a video, its very interesting

Roots - From Abraham to America (Peter Peters and Raymond Capt) - Duration- 1-03-12. WVradioman 3,666 views
 

JaumeJ

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Yes....................


According to Jesus the pharisees did not teach the law, they taught the traditions of man, Matt.15:3, Mark 7:8, Mark 7:13, and they are not Jews they are of the synagogue of satan, they are the decedents of cain, they are the bad fig.
Jesus told his apostle to go preach to the lost sheep of the house of Israel,Matt.10:6, thats the twelve tribes, they succeed the twelve tribe are Christian nations today, below is a video, its very interesting

Roots - From Abraham to America (Peter Peters and Raymond Capt) - Duration- 1-03-12. WVradioman 3,666 views
 

Nehemiah6

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Jesus told his apostle to go preach to the lost sheep of the house of Israel,Matt.10:6, thats the twelve tribes, they succeed the twelve tribe are Christian nations today...
Do you realize how nonsensical this is in view of the fact that (1) before His ascension Christ commanded His apostles (and the Church) to go in all the world and (2) the New Testament clearly shows us that Israel (the 12 tribes) will be redeemed and restored after the second coming of Christ. Furthermore, to ensure that Christians do not confuse the Church with Israel we see the 144,000 from the 12 tribes as a separate group from the Church in Revelation 7. As to Christian nations, there are no Christian nations today.
 

Nehemiah6

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But I have never been able to accept modern day Israel as truly Jewish.
Just because the majority of Jews in Israel today are Ashkenazic does not mean that they are not Jews. In any event, only God knows who belongs to which tribe of Israel throughout the world. Just as we take the entire Bible on faith, we must believe that eventually God will have the twelve tribes settled in the Land of Promise as prophesied.

That land mass will probably be 10 times the size of modern Israel, and God will gather all the Jews from around the world to Israel, and all of them will be sifted. Those who repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved and settled in the Israel promised under the Abrahamic Covenant (from the Nile to the Euphrates).

At present however, God makes no distinction between Jews and Gentiles. All are guilty before God, and all need to obey the Gospel or face the consequences.
 
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Do you realize how nonsensical this is in view of the fact that (1) before His ascension Christ commanded His apostles (and the Church) to go in all the world and (2) the New Testament clearly shows us that Israel (the 12 tribes) will be redeemed and restored after the second coming of Christ. Furthermore, to ensure that Christians do not confuse the Church with Israel we see the 144,000 from the 12 tribes as a separate group from the Church in Revelation 7. As to Christian nations, there are no Christian nations today.
While Jesus was alive they were to preach to the twelve tribes only, after his death it was for whomsoever believe and study, the 144,000 are the only ones that will not worship the antichrist when he appears, among them are ethnic people who are adopted in those tribes, after the white throne judgment all twelve tribes will be reunited. God bless
 
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Revelation 21 King James Version (KJV)

21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

[SUP]2 [/SUP]And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

[SUP]6 [/SUP]And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
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8 [/SUP]But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

[SUP]11 [/SUP]Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

[SUP]12 [/SUP]And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

[SUP]13 [/SUP]On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

[SUP]15 [/SUP]And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.

[SUP]16 [/SUP]And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

[SUP]18 [/SUP]And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

[SUP]19 [/SUP]And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;

[SUP]20 [/SUP]The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.

[SUP]21 [/SUP]And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

[SUP]23 [/SUP]And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

[SUP]24 [/SUP]And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.

[SUP]25 [/SUP]And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

[SUP]26 [/SUP]And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

[SUP]27 [/SUP]And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
 
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Just because the majority of Jews in Israel today are Ashkenazic does not mean that they are not Jews. In any event, only God knows who belongs to which tribe of Israel throughout the world. Just as we take the entire Bible on faith, we must believe that eventually God will have the twelve tribes settled in the Land of Promise as prophesied.

That land mass will probably be 10 times the size of modern Israel, and God will gather all the Jews from around the world to Israel, and all of them will be sifted. Those who repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ will be saved and settled in the Israel promised under the Abrahamic Covenant (from the Nile to the Euphrates).

At present however, God makes no distinction between Jews and Gentiles. All are guilty before God, and all need to obey the Gospel or face the consequences.
Why do you say God will gather all the Jews, Jews are only one tribe and by the way thats Germany, the Abrahamic Covenant was made to Abraham's seed which is Christ Gal.3:16 and Gal.3:29, so all true Christians will be gathered.
In the begining was the word and the word was God and the Word became flesh, so what we have to believe is the Word, all his Word not just one verse, but if you don't know the all the Word what exactly is it you believe? mans doctrine. we must study the Word. God bless
 

Nehemiah6

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Revelation 21 King James Version (KJV)
Posting an entire chapter out of context does not help anyone to understand the significance of Jerusalem on earth.

As already mentioned earlier the New Jerusalem descends from Heaven, hovers over the earth, and gives light to the inhabitants of the earth -- "And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it" (21:24). So, because there will be no sun or moon, the New Jerusalem will become the heavenly body for light to the earth. And its dimensions are 1,500 cubic miles!

But on the earth there will still remain a redeemed and restored Jerusalem with a temple. And the declaration of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel recently is a step in the right direction, and is in line with Bible prophecy.
 

Nehemiah6

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Why do you say God will gather all the Jews...
Because that is precisely what God says.

Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD...For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land...

Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel...

And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all...

And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary [in Jerusalem] shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

(Ezek 36:22,24; 37:12;21,22,28)
 

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The provocative move reveals loyalty..

We Christians are to be Loving and forgiving.. knowing Vengeance belongs to GOD.... but not partakers in the evil rebellion..

Peace and safety should be words that warn a Christian when spoken by the men of this world.

Most will see islam as their biggest foe.. yet the Lord warned of imposters from the synagogue of Satan.. anyone know where they reside?

Love your enemies.. but do not aid their rebellion.

step aside and be Faithful and Loyal to the Lord.

A Great Deception is at play and only GOD can help us.

GOD does not need permission from men.. all of Israel shall be saved.
 

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Because that is precisely what God says.

Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD...For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land...

Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel...

And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all...

And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary [in Jerusalem] shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

(Ezek 36:22,24; 37:12;21,22,28)

So in all of your quotes where do you see 'JEW' instead of ISRAEL ?

why are you MISquoting God ?
 

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Unhappily many people who call themselves Christian, and many do, are antisemetic. They pass this on to children under the guise of their being Christ killers.

These folks have not a clue that it was God's will that our Lord be handed over to be crucified by Jew in order for all to be right.

If thes unfortunatew would but read the Word they would know and teach that our Blessed Lord was killed by sinners.....that is all of us. It was only at the hands of the Jews in order to fulfill all righteousness.

Praise God. Blessed be the Jews where ever they may be, and ofcourse, blessed be the Israel of God, our Father which includes all who praise Him and love Him.


So in all of your quotes where do you see 'JEW' instead of ISRAEL ?

why are you MISquoting God ?
 

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It's not that the Jews killed Jesus. The Jews reject Christ them as well as today. Israel is a non Christian nation no different then most of the Middle East.
 

JaumeJ

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You do know that it is by God's will that some rejected their King, our King?


It's not that the Jews killed Jesus. The Jews reject Christ them as well as today. Israel is a non Christian nation no different then most of the Middle East.
 

Embankment

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I believe Paul says something like, The potter has the right to make poetry for noble use as well as for destruction. I think someday some Jews will come around but it may not be for some time.
 

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You do know that it is by God's will that some rejected their King, our King?
You make it sound as if GOD is making people do things they would not do if left to themselves ?
How then can any be found guilty of 'wrongdoing and condemned ? This does not make sense !
 

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I believe Paul says something like, The potter has the right to make poetry for noble use as well as for destruction. I think someday some Jews will come around but it may not be for some time.
Don't single out the Jews...christians too have got a lot wrong....a lot !
 

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Jews and Gentiles both took part in His literal physical murder:

Mat 20:17-19, “And יהושע, going up to Yerushalayim, took the twelve taught ones aside on the way and said to them, See, we are going up to Yerushalayim, and the Son of Aḏam shall be delivered up to the chief priests and to the scribes, and they shall condemn Him to death, and deliver Him to the Gentiles to mock and to flog and to impale. And the third day He shall be raised.”
 

Hizikyah

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You do know that it is by God's will that some rejected their King, our King?
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