Adam & Eve kept from tree of life

[Embankment]

Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”


Why did God have a tree of life in the garden?


Many say that Adam & Eve would have lived forever If they had not sinned by eating from the tree of good and evil that brought death to the world. So why have a tree of life if they could live forever regardless?
It seems to me physical death was part of the world already. A & E sin brought spiritual death & eating from the tree of life would have caused man to live forever in that fallen state. God prevented that as an act of mercy.
I would like to hear your thoughts.
Thanks!

 

[Dino246]

The eviction from the garden is often seen as a punishment; I see it as God's loving mercy. He did not want Adam and Eve to be stuck in their sinful state indefinitely, so He made it much more difficult.

I don't agree on the point that physical death was already part of the world though. I believe that death is a direct result of sin, as God said, "In the day you eat of it, you will surely die". Adam and Eve died in a sense... they were no longer "alive to God", although their physical death until many years later.

In a sense, in that it frees us from our sinful and fallen bodies, physical death is itself an expression of God's mercy... (I think I just made my own head shake with that! )

 

[Johnny_B]

The eviction from the garden is often seen as a punishment; I see it as God's loving mercy. He did not want Adam and Eve to be stuck in their sinful state indefinitely, so He made it much more difficult.

I don't agree on the point that physical death was already part of the world though. I believe that death is a direct result of sin, as God said, "In the day you eat of it, you will surely die". Adam and Eve died in a sense... they were no longer "alive to God", although their physical death until many years later.

In a sense, in that it frees us from our sinful and fallen bodies, physical death is itself an expression of God's mercy... (I think I just made my own head shake with that! )

Amen!!! God's grace being extended toward man from the beginning.

 

[Locutus]

The problem is if Christ paid the penalty for physical death by tasting death for every man why are Christians still dying physically:

Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

 

[Magenta]

The problem is if Christ paid the penalty for physical death by tasting death for every man why are Christians still dying physically:

Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

It is not the first death we are to fear, but the second, though it is not something any believer is going to face, praise be to God! Scripture does say, though, that fear of death is the cause of slavery (I take it to mean, slavery to sin). Nobody really wants to die. We really want to live well and pain/suffering free, which is not really possible in this fallen world.

 

[bestbefore1973]

Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”


Why did God have a tree of life in the garden?


Many say that Adam & Eve would have lived forever If they had not sinned by eating from the tree of good and evil that brought death to the world. So why have a tree of life if they could live forever regardless?
It seems to me physical death was part of the world already. A & E sin brought spiritual death & eating from the tree of life would have caused man to live forever in that fallen state. God prevented that as an act of mercy.
I would like to hear your thoughts.
Thanks!

It's the tree of knowledge, not the tree of death. Do you think that it was the snake that gave Adam and Eve poisoned knowledge, and that's what caused death.

 

[Magenta]

I agree that the Tree of Life is Jesus Christ

Adam and Eve were given life by God as are we all, but we have not eaten of the Tree of Life until we come to saving faith. Nor did they eat of the Tree of Life. They chose to eat of the forbidden tree. The consequences of their disobedience was the fruit they ate.

Estrangement from God and the fall of all creation followed.

Gardening metaphors are quite numerous in the Bible.
Jesus is the true vine, God the gardener; we are but branches.

As Christians, we are exhorted to bear fruit.

We know we are not trees, but only {metaphorical} branches, offshoots of the true vine, Jesus Christ. I believe He was the {metaphorical} tree of Life placed in the garden of Eden; He holds the keys to life and death; all life is in Him; He is author and giver of life etc, and eternal life is promised to those who abide in Him (John 15:4-5).

The fruit we are to bear has different aspects to it. One is character building: the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Peter adds to this: make every effort to add to your faith excellence, to excellence, knowledge; to knowledge, self-control; to self-control, perseverance; to perseverance, godliness; to godliness, brotherly affection; to brotherly affection, unselfish love. For if these things are really yours and are continually increasing, they will keep you from becoming ineffective and unproductive in your pursuit of knowing our Lord Jesus Christ more intimately.

So our life surrendered to God, and our works through faith are fruit, and so are people who come to Christ through us (Rom 1:3; Phil 4:17), and there is also the fruit of our lips as we praise God and witness to others (Heb 13:15).

These are good fruits, partaken of when aligned with the will of God.

Evil fruits would be the result of disobeying God, defying God, following self will in opposition to God's will, severing ourselves from fellowship with Him, etc. That is the fruit Adam and Eve bore and ate (lived). They followed the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life, in turning away from God after being in fellowship with Him. It is what we all do before being regenerated by the Holy Spirit of God.

I think it will be wonderful to be restored to the garden in the new earth. Come LORD Jesus.

 

[adhidw]

Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”


Why did God have a tree of life in the garden?


Many say that Adam & Eve would have lived forever If they had not sinned by eating from the tree of good and evil that brought death to the world. So why have a tree of life if they could live forever regardless?
It seems to me physical death was part of the world already. A & E sin brought spiritual death & eating from the tree of life would have caused man to live forever in that fallen state. God prevented that as an act of mercy.
I would like to hear your thoughts.
Thanks!

The fruit of the tree of good and evil (fotge) = the format of this perishable realm = if they eat this fruit then immediately they move from the eternal realm to the perishable realm.

The fruit of the tree of life (fotl) = the way back from the perishable realm to the eternal realm.

Before they ate fotge actually they were eternal means in that condition if they ate fotl there was no any bad impact for them, they were allowed to eat that time.

After they ate fotge they no longer eternal (Gen2:17), means if then they ate fotl they soon moved to the eternal realm in their previous condition ( spiritually dead ) + their bodies also changed to be eternally bodies , in this condition surely their destination only to the lof, this was the reason why they were kept from fotl .

Then the equations ;

God Himself that put His people one by one through the womb of women to wander/sojourn to this perishable realm , began from Abel, Seth,….., Noah,……., Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,……., last name in the book of life.

Rom8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope

Then If His people want to be back to the eternal realm to live with God by their own effort = eat fotl intentionally = try to reach their salvation by work ( keeping the torah laws ) = work on sabbath day ( Sabbath day = the day of rest = perishable creature shall never be able to do any thing that is worthy in order to move to the eternal realm in saved ) , so only way for us to be with God eternally is “by His Grace” = fotl shall not be accessed intentionally instead of be blessed .

…..-----> ” salvation is only by His Grace”

Eph1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and

Rom8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God without blame before him in love:

“in him” = saved by His Grace.

 

[Magenta]

It is not the tree of knowledge nor is it the tree of good and evil.

It is called the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

 

[adhidw]

It is not the tree of knowledge nor is it the tree of good and evil.

It is called the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Thank you for the correction , i apologize to not carefully wrote ( my so bad in english )

 

[Magenta]

Thank you for the correction , i apologize to not carefully wrote ( my so bad in english )

You are welcome. Thank you for your gracious acceptance. I do think it is important to call things by their proper names, and we do all make mistakes, also And so are we all learning!

 

[trofimus]

The problem is if Christ paid the penalty for physical death by tasting death for every man why are Christians still dying physically:

Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

This is a good question and I also thought about it several times.

When Jesus died physically for us, why does His sacrifice not affect our physical death and we must still pay this price ourselves....

Yes, we will be resurrected in the end, but we must die first.

 

[Magenta]

This is a good question and I also thought about it several times.

When Jesus died physically for us, why does His sacrifice not affect our physical death and we must still pay this price ourselves....

Yes, we will be resurrected in the end, but we must die first.

Our first birth is of the flesh, and the flesh counts for nothing; we need to be born again of the Holy Spirit of God. Those of faith pass from death into life ever after, putting on immortality, for we are as yet mortal until then, and corruptible, but put on also incorruptibility through Christ, following the resurrection and judgement of all.

 

[Base12]

if Christ paid the penalty for physical death by tasting death for every man why are Christians still dying physically...

Romans 11:25
"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in"

Almost there.

 

[BeyondET]

Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”


Why did God have a tree of life in the garden?


Many say that Adam & Eve would have lived forever If they had not sinned by eating from the tree of good and evil that brought death to the world. So why have a tree of life if they could live forever regardless?
It seems to me physical death was part of the world already. A & E sin brought spiritual death & eating from the tree of life would have caused man to live forever in that fallen state. God prevented that as an act of mercy.
I would like to hear your thoughts.
Thanks!

Well Adam and Eve was eating off the tree of life, once the friut from the knowledge tree was eaten, then the flaming sword was placed in front of the tree of life.

In life today we are tempted in many ways, it's the following through that's the issue.

 

[Magenta]

Well Adam and Eve was eating off the tree of life, once the friut from the knowledge tree was eaten, then the flaming sword was placed in front of the tree of life.

There is absolutely nothing at all in Scripture to suggest that Adam and Eve ate of the tree of life... quite the opposite, in fact. Once they were cast out of the Garden of Eden, following their deception and disobedience, the tree of life was guarded by two angels to prevent them from partaking of it in their fallen state. Had they eaten of it already, they would have become immortal, which obviously they were not. We mortal beings attain to immortality through faith in the propitiatory sacrifice of Jesus Christ upon the cross, where He poured out His righteous blood unto death to pay the sin debt on our behalf due to His great love for us, that we may be reconciled to God.

 

[BeyondET]

There is absolutely nothing at all in Scripture to suggest that Adam and Eve ate of the tree of life... quite the opposite, in fact. Once they were cast out of the Garden of Eden, following their deception and disobedience, the tree of life was guarded by two angels to prevent them from partaking of it in their fallen state. Had they eaten of it already, they would have become immortal, which obviously they were not. We mortal beings attain to immortality through faith in the propitiatory sacrifice of Jesus Christ upon the cross, where He poured out His righteous blood unto death to pay the sin debt on our behalf due to His great love for us, that we may be reconciled to God.

Is this a typo.. Lol.. jk

Well what do you think God meant when He said Adam and Eve can eat from any tree in the garden except the tree of knowledge.

implies yes indeed they were granted to eat from that tree as well. true it's not pin point exactly they eat from it but it doesn't take a rocket science to figure that out. Was the tree of Life in the garden? Correct me if I'm wrong about its location?

 

[resurrection33]

Genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”


Why did God have a tree of life in the garden?


Many say that Adam & Eve would have lived forever If they had not sinned by eating from the tree of good and evil that brought death to the world. So why have a tree of life if they could live forever regardless?
It seems to me physical death was part of the world already. A & E sin brought spiritual death & eating from the tree of life would have caused man to live forever in that fallen state. God prevented that as an act of mercy.
I would like to hear your thoughts.
Thanks!

The Lord wanted us to be happy, so he gave us a tree of life. It is symbolic of the pleasures he afford us:

Thou dost show me the path of life;
in thy presence there is fulness of joy,
in thy right hand are pleasures for evermore. Psalm 16:11 RSV

 

[Dan58]

I think of these tree's as allegory, the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil, represent the personas of Christ and the serpent (Satan). When A&E sinned, they were separated from the Tree of Life (Christ). The wages of sin is death, life and sin (death) don't mix. It wouldn't matter if A&E had previously ate from the Tree of Life, sin separated them from God and they had to die... jmo

 

[Magenta]

Is this a typo.. Lol.. jk

Well what do you think God meant when He said Adam and Eve can eat from any tree in the garden except the tree of knowledge.

implies yes indeed they were granted to eat from that tree as well. true it's not pin point exactly they eat from it but it doesn't take a rocket science to figure that out. Was the tree of Life in the garden? Correct me if I'm wrong about its location?

What are you suggesting may have been a typo? There is absolutely nothing at all in Scripture to suggest that Adam and Eve ate of the tree of life... quite the opposite, in fact. Once they were cast out of the Garden of Eden, following their deception and disobedience, the tree of life was guarded by two angels to prevent them from partaking of it in their fallen state. Had they eaten of it already, they would have become immortal, which obviously they were not. We mortal beings attain to immortality through faith in the propitiatory sacrifice of Jesus Christ upon the cross, where He poured out His righteous blood unto death to pay the sin debt on our behalf due to His great love for us, that we may be reconciled to God.

Please tell me what is wrong in what I have said.