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Matthew 5
10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Matthew 10
28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
I think that there is little to no faith involved with carrying a gun for protection.
10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
Matthew 10
28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
I think that there is little to no faith involved with carrying a gun for protection.
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This is what the unbelievers teach, O you of little faith.
Do you think God would be pleased if you blow a hole as big as a man’s fist on the exit wound, of a sinner?
8 when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Or when He cometh, will He fined you leaning on the arm of the flesh?
6 But without faith [it is] impossible to please him.
Don’t you believe in God’s word?
Don’t you believe 14 The LORD shall fight for you,
Don’t you believe 15 the wilderness be a fruitful field
Don’t you believe 7 to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.
Don’t you believe 9 The Lord shall preserve thee from all evil:. If He so wishes
Don’t you believe 13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
Don’t you believe you 12 shall dwell between his shoulders
Don’t you believe the Lord can keep you safe 1 when thou walkest through the fire.- If He so wishes
8 when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Or when He cometh, will He fined you leaning on the arm of the flesh?
I had a dream that we were being chased by Gun wielding bandits, and that we could walk faster in the spirit of God, than the bandits could run.
If I can’t kill the way peter did by speaking the word in Acts 5 with -
Ananias, with Sapphirah is wife. Then I am not interested. For its God I am trying to please not myself. And as Paul said, I hold my life not dear to myself.
Do you think God would be pleased if you blow a hole as big as a man’s fist on the exit wound, of a sinner?
8 when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Or when He cometh, will He fined you leaning on the arm of the flesh?
6 But without faith [it is] impossible to please him.
Don’t you believe in God’s word?
Don’t you believe 14 The LORD shall fight for you,
Don’t you believe 15 the wilderness be a fruitful field
Don’t you believe 7 to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.
Don’t you believe 9 The Lord shall preserve thee from all evil:. If He so wishes
Don’t you believe 13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
Don’t you believe you 12 shall dwell between his shoulders
Don’t you believe the Lord can keep you safe 1 when thou walkest through the fire.- If He so wishes
8 when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
Or when He cometh, will He fined you leaning on the arm of the flesh?
I had a dream that we were being chased by Gun wielding bandits, and that we could walk faster in the spirit of God, than the bandits could run.
If I can’t kill the way peter did by speaking the word in Acts 5 with -
Ananias, with Sapphirah is wife. Then I am not interested. For its God I am trying to please not myself. And as Paul said, I hold my life not dear to myself.
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I started this thread to see what was in the heart of some Christians and how their walk with the lord was in these last days. Not because I wanted to pick up an AK47 and blow holes in sinners, but just to see what was in the heart of my brethren.
It’s beyond me how Christians think they can kill. I was watching the news last night some place in Africa, somebody bombed some churches and killed some Christians, and then the Christians attacked and killed the people that they thought were responsible.
Jesus said to peter put away your sword.
The word also says, walk as he walked and be ye holy for i am holy and put on the new man.
1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
1john2:6He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
When they tried to stone Jesus he hid himself. Jesus and the disciples did not kill anyone and yet went to their death as a witness.
Jesus said Do not kill. And Just being angry with his brother without a cause you are in danger of judgment: never mind killing.
Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mark10: 19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honor thy father and mother.
Luke18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor thy father and thy mother.
John8:59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
John12:36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.
It’s beyond me how Christians think they can kill. I was watching the news last night some place in Africa, somebody bombed some churches and killed some Christians, and then the Christians attacked and killed the people that they thought were responsible.
Jesus said to peter put away your sword.
The word also says, walk as he walked and be ye holy for i am holy and put on the new man.
1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
1john2:6He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
When they tried to stone Jesus he hid himself. Jesus and the disciples did not kill anyone and yet went to their death as a witness.
Jesus said Do not kill. And Just being angry with his brother without a cause you are in danger of judgment: never mind killing.
Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mark10: 19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honor thy father and mother.
Luke18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor thy father and thy mother.
John8:59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
John12:36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.
There are more accurate assault rifles. 
Micro Tavor Lightweight Assault Rifle (MTAR21)
M4A1 Carbine
M16A3
SA80
M14
Adaptive Combat Rifle (ACR)
SCAR-H
SCAR-L
FN FAL
Just to name a few. I have marked my personal favourites Every rifle in the list is good. But they are my favourites.
I'd only use assault rifles if me and the family was in a guerrilla war
Micro Tavor Lightweight Assault Rifle (MTAR21)
M4A1 Carbine
M16A3
SA80
M14
Adaptive Combat Rifle (ACR)
SCAR-H
SCAR-L
FN FAL
Just to name a few. I have marked my personal favourites
Every rifle in the list is good. But they are my favourites.I'd only use assault rifles if me and the family was in a guerrilla war
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“Terrible, insulting post. If you don't take care of your family, you are worse than a pagan, according to the Bible. It's people like you who make Christians look like donkeys to the rest of the world.”
On one hand you have redneck right-wing nation loving Christians that have AK 47s and a fully loaded glock that say I am going to protect my family and you wouldn’t want to mess with me in any way shape or form.
You are pretty much one of the only Christian nations that are allowed to have guns. The rest of us Christians have to trust the lord to protect our families.
I preach.
Thou shalt not kill.
Love your enemies.
Someone asks for your cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other
Romans 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Now who is the donkey?
Maybe you should put away your guns and trust the lord like the rest of us
On one hand you have redneck right-wing nation loving Christians that have AK 47s and a fully loaded glock that say I am going to protect my family and you wouldn’t want to mess with me in any way shape or form.
You are pretty much one of the only Christian nations that are allowed to have guns. The rest of us Christians have to trust the lord to protect our families.
I preach.
Thou shalt not kill.
Love your enemies.
Someone asks for your cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.
And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other
Romans 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
1 John 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Now who is the donkey?
Maybe you should put away your guns and trust the lord like the rest of us
Stop worrying about a tribulation, I believe we are in it now, what you need to do it throw out the fancy gun, and make sure you are pure of heart, and walking in the truth:
The church today has transgressed form being a body of strong believers (obedient and faithful) who knew from the beginning they were responsible for their conduct and actions before an all Holy God! To a group of tolerant pseudo Christians who have a form of godliness but deny His power!
The church gathering wasn’t a time for fun and games, or seeing just how close they can get and be OF the world and still be called a Christian.
They took the word of God seriously, and knew all false doctrine, and love of the world needed to be put to death and removed from the body!
But not today, you tell the professing Christian world they must cleanse themselves, forsake all their vile sins and worldliness, and perfect holiness in the fear of God, they will scream legalism, works salvation, and call you a religious Pharisee!
It’s not uncommon for the professing Church to condone adultery, homosexuality, fornication among its members, and many more vile sins, they have bought into the lie that soothes their conscience while they wallow in sin and disobedience, think they are in the spirit, but have never cleansed themselves in repentance as God commands.
Yes, it’s simple, but so much forgotten, the word of God is a mere suggestions for most who profess Christ, where they would much rather talk about their favorite movie, video game, sports star, and their wonderful church that promotes the saved IN sin lie!
There is NO urgency to proclaim the truth, as it’s a strong offense to the worldly and lukewarm, they flock to their church every week, to hear a watered down message of the gospel, telling them Jesus cleansed them, it’s already done, and this perfecting Holiness in the fear of the Lord, was also a done deal on the cross!
They take a simple message from God that would solve all the problems the church is going through, and then make many excuses why they cannot obey from their hearts and repent on the scale of the city of Nineveh.
Their only fear is the loss of some rewards, since they were declared righteous the moment they confessed they were born a sinner incapable of repenting and stopping their sins.
Thus the fun and games continues while the multitudes die in their sins, as it’s not their job to judge and no one is perfect, which to them means the practicing homosexual, adulterer, drunkard, drug addict, immoral woman, thief, etc., are covered by the blood, since Jesus cleansed them, and became their righteousness, which then complicates the whole matter.
I urge anyone who has fallen into this lie, to wake up, cleanse yourself before God in repentance as He demands, seek His great mercy, stop taking Him for granted, and perfect holiness and heart purity in great fear and admiration for the Lord!
1Co 6:20 For you are bought with a price. Therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.
Do you honestly believe, you can glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, when you are still defiled in your heart and sold under sin? God forbid!
Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried. But the wicked shall do wickedly. And none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.
So it’s simple! Cleanse yourself as commanded, you shall be purified with a cleansed heart which comes from repentance, and made white. (Pure) Those who are wicked, and remain in bondage, or still in their carnal mind, shall not understand, as wisdom from God comes to the pure in heart!
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart! For they shall see God.
Tommy
The solution is simple!
2Co 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
The church today has transgressed form being a body of strong believers (obedient and faithful) who knew from the beginning they were responsible for their conduct and actions before an all Holy God! To a group of tolerant pseudo Christians who have a form of godliness but deny His power!
The church gathering wasn’t a time for fun and games, or seeing just how close they can get and be OF the world and still be called a Christian.
They took the word of God seriously, and knew all false doctrine, and love of the world needed to be put to death and removed from the body!
But not today, you tell the professing Christian world they must cleanse themselves, forsake all their vile sins and worldliness, and perfect holiness in the fear of God, they will scream legalism, works salvation, and call you a religious Pharisee!
It’s not uncommon for the professing Church to condone adultery, homosexuality, fornication among its members, and many more vile sins, they have bought into the lie that soothes their conscience while they wallow in sin and disobedience, think they are in the spirit, but have never cleansed themselves in repentance as God commands.
Yes, it’s simple, but so much forgotten, the word of God is a mere suggestions for most who profess Christ, where they would much rather talk about their favorite movie, video game, sports star, and their wonderful church that promotes the saved IN sin lie!
There is NO urgency to proclaim the truth, as it’s a strong offense to the worldly and lukewarm, they flock to their church every week, to hear a watered down message of the gospel, telling them Jesus cleansed them, it’s already done, and this perfecting Holiness in the fear of the Lord, was also a done deal on the cross!
They take a simple message from God that would solve all the problems the church is going through, and then make many excuses why they cannot obey from their hearts and repent on the scale of the city of Nineveh.
Their only fear is the loss of some rewards, since they were declared righteous the moment they confessed they were born a sinner incapable of repenting and stopping their sins.
Thus the fun and games continues while the multitudes die in their sins, as it’s not their job to judge and no one is perfect, which to them means the practicing homosexual, adulterer, drunkard, drug addict, immoral woman, thief, etc., are covered by the blood, since Jesus cleansed them, and became their righteousness, which then complicates the whole matter.
I urge anyone who has fallen into this lie, to wake up, cleanse yourself before God in repentance as He demands, seek His great mercy, stop taking Him for granted, and perfect holiness and heart purity in great fear and admiration for the Lord!
1Co 6:20 For you are bought with a price. Therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.
Do you honestly believe, you can glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, when you are still defiled in your heart and sold under sin? God forbid!
Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried. But the wicked shall do wickedly. And none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.
So it’s simple! Cleanse yourself as commanded, you shall be purified with a cleansed heart which comes from repentance, and made white. (Pure) Those who are wicked, and remain in bondage, or still in their carnal mind, shall not understand, as wisdom from God comes to the pure in heart!
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart! For they shall see God.
Tommy
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[size=+2] The Tribulation of Antichrist, greek- instead of Christ. Is not physical war .Its a spiritual one. We don't put on physical armor. We put on spiritual armor , called the Gospel armor ( Ephesians 6- ) To stand, against, the fire darts of Satan. Those darts are called lies throughout the Bible.
Ephesians 6:12
(KJV)12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
God commanded that no one is to be physically hurt or killed here :
Revelation 9:
4 And it was commanded them that theyshould not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those" men which have not the seal of God"" in" their foreheads.
The Seal of God is truth. The mark of the beast is deception.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
I would look into how a scorpion eats and takes its pray. There is valuable teachings there . And you get a clearer picture how the deception works then along with the other scriptures.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
The only thing that you have to worry about dieing at that time is your soul. And that is more serious .Some one trying to take away your faith in the True Christ.
There are two people that do die at that time. Satan ignores God's commandment Not, to kill anyone. But he will disobey ; and kill the two witnesses :
Revelation 11
King James Version (KJV)
11 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
Dose this make you think ? It should, we read of Satan/serpent/antchrist tormenting people in Rev. But then we also read here in verse 10, that the two witnesses from God was the ones tormenting them. Why is this ? Because. the torment the anti christ brings is to the soul. and its not something you can see when its deception. anti-C is playing the role of deceiver ,false christ. The two witnesses are telling the truth and it would seem people think they are the bad ones. Because we read all the people on the earth rejoice over them being dead and make marry and send gifts one to another because these two prophets tormented them. Not anti Christ, but the prophets from the Lord.
Keep in mind we put on the gospel armor to stand against the fiery darts ( lies, deception ) of Satan. Like the two witnesses will do.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
They fine they been had by Satan.
Now this is the Tribulation of The Lord Jesus Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords
Revelation 6:
14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?[/size]
Ephesians 6:12
(KJV)12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
God commanded that no one is to be physically hurt or killed here :
Revelation 9:
4 And it was commanded them that theyshould not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those" men which have not the seal of God"" in" their foreheads.
The Seal of God is truth. The mark of the beast is deception.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
I would look into how a scorpion eats and takes its pray. There is valuable teachings there . And you get a clearer picture how the deception works then along with the other scriptures.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
The only thing that you have to worry about dieing at that time is your soul. And that is more serious .Some one trying to take away your faith in the True Christ.
There are two people that do die at that time. Satan ignores God's commandment Not, to kill anyone. But he will disobey ; and kill the two witnesses :
Revelation 11
King James Version (KJV)
11 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
Dose this make you think ? It should, we read of Satan/serpent/antchrist tormenting people in Rev. But then we also read here in verse 10, that the two witnesses from God was the ones tormenting them. Why is this ? Because. the torment the anti christ brings is to the soul. and its not something you can see when its deception. anti-C is playing the role of deceiver ,false christ. The two witnesses are telling the truth and it would seem people think they are the bad ones. Because we read all the people on the earth rejoice over them being dead and make marry and send gifts one to another because these two prophets tormented them. Not anti Christ, but the prophets from the Lord.
Keep in mind we put on the gospel armor to stand against the fiery darts ( lies, deception ) of Satan. Like the two witnesses will do.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
They fine they been had by Satan.
Now this is the Tribulation of The Lord Jesus Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords
Revelation 6:
14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?[/size]
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Matthew 16:24-26 (KJV)
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mark 8:34-37 (KJV)
34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Luke 9:23-25 (KJV)
23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?
John 13:38 (KJV)
38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, till thou hast denied me thrice.
1 Peter 3:8-14 (KJV)
8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
(ESCHEW', v.t. To flee from; to shun; to avoid.)
12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;