AM I JEW OR A GENTILE IF I KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS ?

[JaumeJ]

You level charges without understanding. Law keeper? Did you not understand what has been posted? I cannot do away with people who ask, then do not listen and come back with whatever they fantacize, so good bye again but this time much longer than before.

Why don't you try paying attention to the posts you answer?

If you are erroneous in one part, why should I address the whole post? It doesn't suit your "manner of being" is where your problem lies. Law keepers as yourself get irritated with anyone that asks for biblical support of your stance.

You said "they are contained in the two great laws".
I asked you where the bible says that and you posted a bunch of scripture that does no such thing. Show me where the bible says what you say it does. You know, without me telling you, that adding to or taking from, the Word of God is a bad thing.

 

[phil112]

You level charges without understanding..........

You still haven't shown where the bible says what you claim it does. Want me to understand? Show me scripture to enforce your suppositions.

 

[Zinzerio]

lets look at the facts here,, since i have started to talk about encouraging people to sin no more,, i have been called ,, You sinnless people are all the same,,, I have been called a lawkeeper,, I have been called a follower of satan,,,

Now it seems i am also a WOLFE ,, i must point out that in the bible it says i am more than a conqueror through him and stick and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me,, The word of God can pull down any bad doctrine,, look here
2 Corinthians 10:3-4

New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

[SUP]3 [/SUP]For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. [SUP]4 [/SUP]The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds....

I don't go in the bbs chat room no more, i use to go in all the time,, but because of people getting jumped on by other members when they talk about sinning no more and people not getting told off when they preach i am a born again and i will continue to commit adultery,, please when is this going to stop,, lets look at what the bible says about taking the body of Christ into adultery

1 Corinthians 6:15-16


New International Version (NIV)


[SUP]15 [/SUP]Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! [SUP]16 [/SUP]Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”[SUP][a]


Ok now please tell me if some says they are sinning no more does that mean that person is claiming sinless perfection ? no it does not we already know from [/SUP][SUP]1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him...

any one with the seed of God does not continue to sin,,(now they may be tempted by sin but actually going ahead and doing it is a different story all together isnt it..??

so please why other so called Christians hate it when people say sin no more, or why do they throw up the argument are you claiming to be without sin,, ??

or the argument we are not under the law then gets thrown in that persons face,,
anyways i think its a tragedy that people are being picked on for talking about sinning no more.. and being shoved into a corner.. please stop this and pray to farther to help you to honor his word and keep the commandments which include no more mocking,,amen God bless


slanderers do not go to heaven amen

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[Zinzerio]

Many believe that the Apostle Paul did away with the Ten Commandments, but is that what the Bible teaches? What did the Apostle Paul actually teach about them?

What Paul actually taught about the ten commandments are shown here in green.

There is only one only scripture that uses the “nailed it to the cross” expression (AV/NKJ), it is Colossians 2:13-14, in which Paul states, “And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross“. Were the ten commandments the “requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us”? Let us examine the scriptures to see.
Commandment 1: Paul said, “God, who made the world and everything in it…they should seek the Lord” (Acts 17:24,27). Paul also said, “I worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law” (Acts 24:14). “But then indeed, when you did not know God, you served those things which by nature are not God” (Galatians 4:8). “And what agreement has the temple of God have with idols?” (II Corinthians 6:16). “you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God” (I Thessalonians 1:9). “Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).
Commandment 2: “we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols” (Acts 15:20). “Now while Paul waited for them in Athens, his spirit was provoked within him when he saw that the city was given over to idols…Then Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and said…’God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. Nor is He worshipped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything‘” (Acts 17:16,22,24-25). “Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man–and birds and four footed animals and creeping things” (Romans 1:22-23). “But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is…an idolater” (I Corinthians 5:11). “Neither… idolators…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:9-10). “And do not become idolaters as were some of them…Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry” (I Corinthians 10:7,14). “And what agreement has the temple of God have with idols?” (II Corinthians 6:16). “Now the works of the flesh are evident…idolatry” (Galatians 5:19,20). “For this you know that no…idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God” (Ephesians 5:5). “Therefore put to death…covetousness, which is idolatry” (Colossians 3:5). “you turned to God from idols” (I Thessalonians 1:9).
Commandment 3: “they are all under sin…Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness” (Romans 3:9,14). “Let all…evil speaking be put away from you” (Ephesians 4:31). “But now you yourselves are to put off all Thessalonians e:…blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth” (Colossians 3:8). “they may learn not to blaspheme” (I Timothy 1:20). But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be…blasphemers” (II Timothy 3:1,2).
Commandment 4: “Then Paul, as his custom was, went in to them and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures…And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks” (Acts 17:2;18:4 see also 13:14,27,42,44). “let him labor, working with his hands what is good, that he may have something to give to him who has need” (Ephesians 4:28) and “For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: ‘If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat‘” (II Thessalonians 3:10); (recall that the requirement to work is also part of the Sabbath command, thus even that portion of the commandment is repeated in the New Testament.) “And to whom did He swear they would not enter His rest, but to those who did not obey?” (Hebrews 3:18). “For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: ‘And God rested on the seventh day from all His works’” (Hebrews 4:4). “There remains therefore a rest (literally sabbatismos, ‘Sabbath rest’) for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His” (Hebrews 4:9-10).
Commandment 5: “being filled with all unrighteousness…disobediant to parents” (Romans 1:29,30). “Children obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. ‘Honor your father and mother’, which is the first commandment with promise: that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth” (Ephesians 6:1-3). “the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience” (Colossians 3:6). “Children obey your parents in all things, for this is well pleasing to the Lord” (Colossians 3:20). “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be…disobediant to parents” (II Timothy 3:1,2).
Commandment 6: “being filled with all unrighteousness…murder” (Romans 1:29). “You shall not murder” (Romans 13:9). “Now the works of the flesh are evident…murders” (Galatians 5:19,21). “the lawless and insubordinate…murders…manslayers” (I Timothy 1:9).
Commandment 7: “being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality” (Romans 1:29). “So then if, while her husband lives, she marries another man, she will be called an adulteress” (Romans 7:3). “You shall not commit adultery” (Romans 13:9). “But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral” (I Corinthians 5:11). “Neither… adulterers, nor homosexuals…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:9-10). “Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body” (I Corinthians 6:18). “Nor let us commit sexual immorality as some of them did” (I Corinthians 10:8). “Now the works of the flesh are evident…adultery, fornication” (Galatians 5:19). “For this you know that no fornicator…has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God” (Ephesians 5:5). “the lawless and insubordinate…fornicators…sodomites” (I Timothy 1:9,10). “fornicators and adulterers God will judge” (Hebrews 13:4).
Commandment 8: “You shall not steal” (Romans 13:9). “nor thieves…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:10). “I have been…in perils of robbers” (II Corinthians 11:25-26). “Let him who stole, steal no longer” (Ephesians 4:28).
Commandment 9: “You shall not bear false witness” (Romans 13:9). ‘I do not lie” (Galatians 1:19). “Therefore, putting away lying, ‘Let each of you speak truth with his neighbor” (Ephesians 4:25). “Do not lie to one another” (Colossians 3:9). “the lawless and insubordinate…liars…perjurers” (I Timothy 1:9,10). “Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy” (I Timothy 4:1-2). “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be…slanderers” (II Timothy 3:1,3). “God, who cannot lie” (Ti 1:2). “it is impossible for God to lie” (Hebrews 6:18).
Commandment 10: “being filled with all unrighteousness…covetousness” (Romans 1:29).”You shall not covet” (Romans 7:7). “You shall not covet” (Romans 13:9). “But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is…covetous” (I Corinthians 5:11). “nor covetous…will inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:10). “we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted” (I Corinthians 10:6). “you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh” (Galatians 5:16). “For this you know that no fornicator…nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God” (Ephesians 5:5). “Therefore put to death…covetousness, which is idolatry” (Colossians 3:5). “For neither at any time did we use flattering words, as you know, nor a cloak for covetousness” (I Thessalonians 2:5). “Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have” (Hebrews 13:5).
Notice that Paul clearly warns about not keeping each of the ten commandments.
Paul also wrote “For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins” (Hebrews 10:26). He also warned that those who break various of the ten commandments will not inherit the kingdom of God (Ephesians 5:4-5) and then said, “Let no man deceive you with empty words, for because of Thessalonians e things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them” (Ephesians 5:6-7).
Some have been confused about some of Paul’s writings, but as Peter warned, “Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of Thessalonians e things in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the scriptures” (II Pet 3:15-16). Perhaps the most confusing to some is, “For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle the wall of separation, having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity” (Ephesians 2:14-16).
It is clear that Paul could not be talking about the ten commandments as he mentions parts of at least eight of them as still being in existence in the same book (see above, the other two are alluded to as well, Ephesians 5:31–anger, which is like murder according to Jesus; plus the comment about being a prisoner of the Lord also would show the first commandment, Ephesians 4:1)

 

[Zinzerio]

happy easter

 

[phil112]

Originally Posted by phil112

I have no idea what kind of bible you read, but you really need to trash it, if it tells you a believer needs the ten commandments and love can be sinful.

Originally Posted by Zinzerio

wow you need to trash the bible good answer that one, out of all the answer you could of give could you not have give a better one. ?

So your agreeing its ok for someone to say go and trash you bible ? Yes, zin, that's what he agrees with me about. I will say it again, if your bible tells you that, throw it away. It is a book of lies.

 

[Sirk]

As we know the Jews keep the commandments and they keep the sabbath,

Now it is said that many Christians of today do not keep the sabbath what are your Thoughts please.

You are a stud if you can keep the commandments and there is no one like you on this earth.

 

[paddy]

I am a stud to my wife and my wife only, but if you want to speak about me as a stud that's your thinking not mine lol.
But no it is impossable to keep them i cant do it i failed misserably.
Could you pray for me please

 

[Barustine]

Please read Galatians 3:24-29 If the bible is true. I believe it is.

 

[p_rehbein]

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/108867-am-i-jew-gentile-if-i-keep-commandments.html

 

[Delivery]

As we know the Jews keep the commandments and they keep the sabbath,

Now it is said that many Christians of today do not keep the sabbath what are your Thoughts please.

If you mean by "the commandments" The old laws of Moses, then forget it. It's impossible for anyone to keep them perfectly by themselves. That's why we need Jesus to forgive us ours sins, and why we need to receive His atonement for them.

 

[Delivery]

But to answer your question specifically, no, the fact that you keep the Sabbath day does not make you a Jew. But the fact that you believe in the true Jewish Messiah, Jesus Christ, does make you an inheritor of all the promises made to Father Abraham.

 

[Delivery]

Another question: What does it mean to "keep the Sabbath? The Sabbath as far as I know was instituted by God as a day of rest, because God created the world in Six days and rested the 7th. So I guess that means if you work only 6 days a week and use the seventh day to rest, get in an extra nap, watch TV, etc. then you're keeping the Sabbath day.

 

[ChristInUs]

With out writing a book and a 6 hour sermon. The best we can do is place our faith in the work of the cross. God will not accept works of the flesh. He simply will not. For instance at the tower of Babel they said come let us make brick and a name for our self.

They did not intend to build a tower that reached Heaven. They intended to build towers that would be above the flood. Cities cannot prosper on mountains and they were afraid of the plains, because of the flood. You need the plains to grow crops.

So Nimrod and his people decided to build towers, so that if God flooded the Earth again they could ascend in the towers and not be killed.

God put that to naught.

Again the best that we can do is place faith in the work of the cross.

 

[ChristInUs]

I forgot to say that brick is man made and stone is God made. so to build with brick was a direct refusal of God.

 

[tooldtocare]

.,.,Now we must show them Grace and Love, what the Lord Jesus has given us, for their sake. I think .,.,.,.,

Before I can answer your question I must first know that your meaning of a word is the same as mine.

Please define "we"; "them", "their" and "I"

ok

 

[tooldtocare]

I forgot to say that brick is man made and stone is God made. so to build with brick was a direct refusal of God.

That statement is so illogical that I do not know where to begin?
A brick is a brick. Made from bits of rock and mortar.

What is there in there to refuse?

BTW They can be made of clay as well

 

[tanakh]

This person has been banned so its a waste of time answering. Probably an SDA member.

 

[JaumeJ]

It is my understanding that SDA members have confessed Jesus Christ as Lord and God.......as for their traditions of worship, they are not that much different than any other denomination under that umbrella called Christianity.

All who love Jesus Christ as God Almighty, our King and Savior are family in His Blood, amen.

 

[tanakh]

It is my understanding that SDA members have confessed Jesus Christ as Lord and God.......as for their traditions of worship, they are not that much different than any other denomination under that umbrella called Christianity.

All who love Jesus Christ as God Almighty, our King and Savior are family in His Blood, amen.

You obviously no little about the SDA. They follow the teachings of Ellen White who they claim to have been a Prophet
they consider her writings as inspired as the Bible. In that respect they are on the same level as the Mormons. Just because they claim to be Christian doesnt mean they are. The Devil deals in half truths that is how he deceives people.