Amillennialists...Here's a chance to state your case.
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James agree to confine his ministry strictly to the Jews, while he allow Paul to have the right of ministry to the Gentiles. If they are indeed in perfect agreement, why that "compromise" in Galatians 2?
And why didn't James defended Paul anywhere in Acts 22 and 23, if he is in perfect agreement with him?
And why didn't James defended Paul anywhere in Acts 22 and 23, if he is in perfect agreement with him?
The fact that you cannot see the forest because of the trees proves that you are not viewing the big picture........OPEN your eyes.....the WORKS DID NOT JUSTIFY her or are you to dense to simply accept the facts.....NOW PAY ATTENTION...it had NOTHING to do with the WORKS.......the bible is clear.....BY FAITH <-----HOW is it that you have to EMBELLISH this and by so doing corrupt the TEXT
By faith Rahab the harlot did not perish along with those who were disobedient, after she had welcomed the spies in peace.
By faith Rahab the harlot did not perish along with those who were disobedient, after she had welcomed the spies in peace.
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They would come under the same principles that applies to all who will not be found with a righteousness of their own according the Philippians 2 :12-13 expanded in other verses. The formula in respect to a imputed faith as a work in respect to Christ's labor of love.
The righteousness of God without the effects of the letter of the law that kills law...... is manifested through Christ our suffering savior .
Its the righteousness that is working in you. If you have believed as a anchor of your new soul, receiving the end of our salvation from the beginning.
The righteousness of God without the effects of the letter of the law that kills law...... is manifested through Christ our suffering savior .
Its the righteousness that is working in you. If you have believed as a anchor of your new soul, receiving the end of our salvation from the beginning.
WOW..............MAN you have a lot to learn.....You do understand that there are no less than 3 James' mentioned in Acts and regardless of your heretical view....The book of JAMES and PAUL do not contradict each other............get with the program....no matter how many times you try to make them contradict, they do not.....
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You are not answering my question. Suppose Rahab behaved like us, believe only but did not hide any spies, would she be considered saved?
We had the privilege of believing in Jesus's finished work. For her, she could not have done so since Jesus has not died on the cross yet. Could she have been justified by merely believing in the God of the Jews?
We had the privilege of believing in Jesus's finished work. For her, she could not have done so since Jesus has not died on the cross yet. Could she have been justified by merely believing in the God of the Jews?
Does not matter......The OT, LAW and Prophets and PSALMS testified of JESUS....and OT saints were justified by faith just as N.T. saints ARE....
I am the LORD that GOD I CHANGE NOT
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
I am the LORD that GOD I CHANGE NOT
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
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SEE.....you are conflating two separate issues......SHE HAD FAITH, was JUSTIFIED by FAITH, SAVED BY FAITH BEFORE she HID the SPIES which PRESERVED HER physical LIFE
BY conflating faith and works YOU are MISSING the mark...........
Why is it so hard to grasp the truth.......FAITH ALONE IS WHAT SAVES anything beyond that is the result of the FAITH one already possesses......geesh....it is not that hard unless one is a Cainologist or a worker for.....
BY conflating faith and works YOU are MISSING the mark...........
Why is it so hard to grasp the truth.......FAITH ALONE IS WHAT SAVES anything beyond that is the result of the FAITH one already possesses......geesh....it is not that hard unless one is a Cainologist or a worker for.....
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So you do agree that Rahab and Noah had it more difficult than us. Not only they needed to believe in God, they also need to show their faith thru a specific work, to be considered justified
For us, as Paul stated repeatedly,
BUT NOW the righteousness of God without the law is manifested" (Rom. 3:21);
"To him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Rom. 4:5)
"Being Justified freely by His grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Rom. 3:24);
"In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of His grace" (Eph. 1:7);
"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us" (Tit. 3:5);
"Not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph. 2:8,9)
When God now says this, what will faith do? Faith will say, "This is the most wonderful offer ever made by God to man. I cannot refuse it. I will trust Christ as my Savior and accept salvation as the free gift of God's grace."
Rahab and Noah would envy you, that was the point I was trying to establish. Their conditions for showing faith were not as simple as what we have to do, under the age of Grace.
Noah had to build an ark. (Hebrews 11:7)
Abel had to bring the correct sacrifice (Gen 4:4-5, Heb. 11:4)
Abraham had to believe, at his advanced years, that God would make him a father of many (Genesis 15:5-6)
Rahab had to hide the spies, at the risk of being caught and punished (Hebrews 11:31)
The point is that, by the time it reach us Gentiles, thanks to Jesus ushering the age of Grace, all we need to do, in order to display faith, is simply believing and speaking.
This is the most wonderful offer ever made by God to man. I cannot refuse it. I will trust Christ as my Savior and accept salvation as the free gift of God's grace."
We simply believe the message, that Jesus Christ has started and completed the work required for our salvation and we cease from our work and believe it. If we do that, we will receive the same righteousness as Abraham received (Gal 3:6-9). I especially like the NLT version.
6 In the same way, “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” 7 The real children of Abraham, then, are those who put their faith in God. 8 What’s more, the Scriptures looked forward to this time when God would make the Gentiles right in his sight because of their faith. God proclaimed this good news to Abraham long ago when he said, “All nations will be blessed through you.”[c] 9 So all who put their faith in Christ share the same blessing Abraham received because of his faith.
For us, as Paul stated repeatedly,
BUT NOW the righteousness of God without the law is manifested" (Rom. 3:21);
"To him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Rom. 4:5)
"Being Justified freely by His grace, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Rom. 3:24);
"In whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins according to the riches of His grace" (Eph. 1:7);
"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us" (Tit. 3:5);
"Not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast" (Eph. 2:8,9)
When God now says this, what will faith do? Faith will say, "This is the most wonderful offer ever made by God to man. I cannot refuse it. I will trust Christ as my Savior and accept salvation as the free gift of God's grace."
Rahab and Noah would envy you, that was the point I was trying to establish. Their conditions for showing faith were not as simple as what we have to do, under the age of Grace.
Noah had to build an ark. (Hebrews 11:7)
Abel had to bring the correct sacrifice (Gen 4:4-5, Heb. 11:4)
Abraham had to believe, at his advanced years, that God would make him a father of many (Genesis 15:5-6)
Rahab had to hide the spies, at the risk of being caught and punished (Hebrews 11:31)
The point is that, by the time it reach us Gentiles, thanks to Jesus ushering the age of Grace, all we need to do, in order to display faith, is simply believing and speaking.
This is the most wonderful offer ever made by God to man. I cannot refuse it. I will trust Christ as my Savior and accept salvation as the free gift of God's grace."
We simply believe the message, that Jesus Christ has started and completed the work required for our salvation and we cease from our work and believe it. If we do that, we will receive the same righteousness as Abraham received (Gal 3:6-9). I especially like the NLT version.
6 In the same way, “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” 7 The real children of Abraham, then, are those who put their faith in God. 8 What’s more, the Scriptures looked forward to this time when God would make the Gentiles right in his sight because of their faith. God proclaimed this good news to Abraham long ago when he said, “All nations will be blessed through you.”[c] 9 So all who put their faith in Christ share the same blessing Abraham received because of his faith.
I never said such a thing. God gives us difficulties according to our faith. His grace is sufficient. 1Cor 10 and 2Cor 12.
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