An Often Overlooked Sign of the Last Days

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An often over looked sign depicting the last days is not wars and rumors of wars, or the restoration of Israel, or earthquakes, nor is it Gog surrounding and attacking Israel, or the increase of violence, but rather it is the proliferation of false prophets and teachings that will mark the end days. People will pooh pooh sound doctrine. Truth will be secondary.

Here are some samples....

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
(Mat 24:4-5)

And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
(Mat 24:11)

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(Mat 24:23-24)

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2Th 2:11-12)


Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
(1Ti 4:1)

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
(2Ti 4:3-4)

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
(2Pe 2:1-3)

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
(Jud 1:4)
 
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A few I found online... They have been with us since "the End Times" were proclaimed to have begun by Peter at Pentecost.

In Judaism, "messiah" originally meant a divinely appointed king, such as David, Cyrus the Great[1] or Alexander the Great.[2] Later, especially after the failure of the Hasmonean Kingdom (37 BC) and the Jewish–Roman wars (AD 66-135), the figure of the Jewish Messiah was one who would deliver the Jews from oppression and usher in an Olam Haba ("world to come") or Messianic Age. However the term “false messiah” was largely absent from rabbinic literature. The first mention is in the Sefer Zerubbabel, from the mid-seventh century, which uses the term, mashiah sheker, (“false messiah”).[3]
Simon of Peraea (c. Unknown – 4 BCE), a former slave of Herod the Great who rebelled and was killed by the Romans.[4]
Jesus of Nazareth (c. 5 BCE – 30 CE), leader of a Jewish sect who was crucified by the Romans at the instigation of Jewish leaders; Jews who believed him to be the Messiah were the first Christians, also known as Jewish Christians.[5] Muslims,[6] Christians[7] and Messianic Jews[8] believe him to be the real Messiah.
Athronges (c. 3 CE),[9] a shepherd turned rebel leader.
Simon bar Kokhba (died c. 135), founded a short-lived Jewish state before being defeated in the Second Jewish-Roman War.
Moses of Crete, who in about 440–470 persuaded the Jews of Crete to walk into the sea, as Moses had done, to return to Israel. The results were disastrous and he soon disappeared.
Ishak ben Ya'kub Obadiah Abu 'Isa al-Isfahani (684–705), who led a revolt in Persia against the Umayyad Caliph 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan.
David Alroy, born in Kurdistan, who around 1160 agitated against the caliph before being assassinated.
Moses Botarel of Cisneros, active around 1413; claimed to be a sorcerer able to combine the names of God.
Asher Lämmlein, a German near Venice who proclaimed himself a forerunner of the Messiah in 1502.
David Reubeni (1490–1541?) and Solomon Molcho (1500–1532), messianic adventurers who travelled in Portugal, Italy and Turkey; Molcho, who was a baptised Catholic, was tried by the Inquisition, convicted of apostasy and burned at the stake.
Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676), an Ottoman Jew who claimed to be the Messiah, but then converted to Islam; still has followers today in the Donmeh. Jacob Querido (?–1690), claimed to be the new incarnation of Sabbatai; later converted to Islam and led the Donmeh.
Miguel Cardoso (1630–1706), another successor of Sabbatai who claimed to be the "Messiah ben Ephraim."
Löbele Prossnitz (?–1750), attained some following amongst former followers of Sabbatai, calling himself the "Messiah ben Joseph."

Jacob Joseph Frank (1726–1791), who claimed to be the reincarnation of King David and preached a synthesis of Christianity and Judaism.

Christian messiah claimants[edit]





Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nuri, Baha'u'llah




Mirza Ghulam Ahmed




Simon Magus
See also: List of people claimed to be Jesus and Second Coming

Verses in the Christian Bible tell that Jesus will come again in some fashion; various people have claimed to, in fact, be the second coming of Jesus. Others have been styled a new messiah still under the umbrella of Christianity. The Synoptic gospels (Matthew 24:4, 6, 24; Mark 13:5, 21-22; and Luke 21:3) all use the term pseudochristos for messianic pretenders.[10]
Simon Magus (early 1st century), was a Samaritan, and a native of Gitta; he was considered a god in Simonianism; he "darkly hinted" that he himself was Christ, calling himself the Standing One.
Dositheos the Samaritan (mid 1st century), was one of the supposed founders of Mandaeanism. After the time of Jesus he wished to persuade the Samaritans that he himself was the Messiah prophesied by Moses.[11] Dositheus pretended to be the Christ (Messiah), applying Deuteronomy 18:15 to himself, and he compares him with Theudas and Judas the Galilean.[11][12]
Tanchelm of Antwerp (c. 1110), who violently opposed the sacrament and the Eucharist.
Ann Lee (1736–1784), a central figure to the Shakers,[13] who thought she "embodied all the perfections of God" in female form and considered herself to be Christ’s female counterpart in 1772.[14]
Bernhard Müller (c. 1799–1834) claimed to be the Lion of Judah and a prophet in possession of the Philosopher's stone.
John Nichols Thom (1799–1838), who had achieved fame and followers as Sir William Courtenay and adopted the claim of Messiah after a period in a mental institute.[15]
Arnold Potter (1804–1872), Latter Day Saint schismatic leader; called himself "Potter Christ"
Hong Xiuquan (1814–1864), Hakka Chinese; claimed himself to be the younger brother of Jesus Christ; started the Taiping Rebellion and founded the Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace. Committed suicide before the fall of Tianjing (Nanjing) in 1864.
Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nuri, Bahá'u'lláh (1817–1864), born Shiite, adopting Bábism later in life, he claimed to be the promised one of all religions, and founded the Bahá'í Faith.
Jacobina Mentz Maurer (1841 or 1842-1874) was a German-Brazilian woman who lived and died in the state of Rio Grande do Sul who emerged as a messianic prophetess, a representation of God, and later declared the very reincarnation of Jesus Christ on earth by her German-speaking community called Die Muckers (or the false saints) by her enemies, Die Spotters (or the mockers). After a number of deadly confrontations with outsiders, Jacobina was shot to death together with many of her followers by the Brazilian Imperial Army.
William W. Davies (1833–1906), Latter Day Saint (Mormon) schismatic leader; claimed that his infant son Arthur (born 1868) was the reincarnated Jesus Christ.
Cyrus Reed Teed (October 18, 1839 - December 22, 1908, erroneously Cyrus Tweed) was a U.S. eclectic physician and alchemist turned religious leader and messiah. In 1869, claiming divine inspiration, Dr. Teed took on the name Koresh and proposed a new set of scientific and religious ideas he called Koreshanity.
Father Divine (George Baker) (c. 1880 – September 10, 1965), an African American spiritual leader from about 1907 until his death who claimed to be God.
André Matsoua (1899–1942), Congolese founder of Amicale, proponents of which subsequently adopted him as Messiah in the late 1920s.
Samael Aun Weor (1917–1977), born Víctor Manuel Gómez Rodríguez, Colombian citizen and later Mexican, was an author, lecturer and founder of the 'Universal Christian Gnostic Movement', according to him, 'the most powerful movement ever founded'. By 1972, he referenced that his death and resurrection would be occurring before 1978.[citation needed]
Ahn Sahng-hong (1918–1985), founder of the World Mission Society Church of God and worshiped by the members as the messiah.[16]
Sun Myung Moon (1920–2012), founder and leader of the Unification Church established in Seoul, South Korea, who considered himself the Second Coming of Christ, but not Jesus himself.[17] Although it is generally believed by Unification Church members ("Moonies") that he was the Messiah and the Second Coming of Christ and was anointed to fulfill Jesus' unfinished mission.[17]
Yahweh ben Yahweh (1935–2007), born as Hulon Mitchell, Jr., a black nationalist and separatist who created the Nation of Yahweh and allegedly orchestrated the murder of dozens of persons.
Laszlo Toth (1940-2012) claimed he was Jesus Christ as he battered Michelangelo's Pieta with a geologist hammer.
Wayne Bent (born 1941), also known as Michael Travesser of the Lord Our Righteousness Church, also known as the "Strong City Cult", convicted December 15, 2008 of one count of criminal sexual contact of a minor and two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor in 2008.[18]
Iesu Matayoshi (born 1944), in 1997 he established the World Economic Community Party based on his conviction that he is God and the Christ.
Jung Myung Seok (born 1945), a South Korean who was a member of the Unification Church in the 1970s, before breaking off to found the dissenting group[19] now known as Providence Church in 1980.[20][21] He also considers himself the Second Coming of Christ, but not Jesus himself in 1980.[22] He believes he has come to finish the incomplete message and mission of Jesus Christ, asserting that he is the Messiah and has the responsibility to save all mankind.[23] He claims that the Christian doctrine of resurrection is false but that people can be saved through him.[24]
Claude Vorilhon now known as Raël "messenger of the Elohim" (born 1946), a French professional test driver and former automobile journalist became founder and leader of UFO religion the Raël Movement in 1972, which teaches that life on Earth was scientifically created by a species of extraterrestrials, which they call Elohim. He claimed he met an extraterrestrial humanoid in 1973 and became the Messiah.[25] Then devoted himself to the task he said was given by his "biological father", an extraterrestrial named Yahweh.[26]
José Luis de Jesús (1946–2013), founder and leader of Creciendo en Gracia sect (Growing In Grace International Ministry, Inc.), based in Miami, Florida. He claimed to be both Jesus Christ returned and the Antichrist, and exhibited a "666" tattoo on his forearm. He has referred to himself as Jesucristo Hombre, which translates to "Jesus Christ made Man".
Inri Cristo (born 1948) of Indaial, Brazil, a claimant to be the second Jesus.[27]
Apollo Quiboloy (born 1950), founder and leader of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ religious group, who claims that Jesus Christ is the "Almighty Father," that Quiboloy is "His Appointed Son," and that salvation is now completed. Proclaims himself as the "Appointed Son of the God" not direct to the point as the "Begotten Son of the God" in 1985.[28]
David Icke (born 1952), of Great Britain, has described himself as "the son of God", and a "channel for the Christ spirit".
Brian David Mitchell was born on October 18, 1953 in Salt Lake City, Utah, he believed himself the fore-ordained angel born on earth to be the Davidic "servant" prepared by God as a type of Messiah who would restore the divinely led kingdom of Israel to the world in preparation for Christ's second coming. (Mitchell's belief in such an end-times figure – also known among many fundamentalist Latter Day Saints as "the One Mighty and Strong" – appeared to be based in part on a reading of the biblical book of Isaiah by the independent LDS Hebraist, Avraham Gileadi, with which Mitchell became familiar from his former participation with Stirling Allan's American Study Group.)[29][30]
David Koresh (Vernon Wayne Howell) (1959–1993), leader of the Branch Davidians.
Maria Devi Christos (born 1960), founder of the Great White Brotherhood.
Sergey Torop (born 1961), who started to call himself "Vissarion", founder of the Church of the Last Testament and the spiritual community Ecopolis Tiberkul in Southern Siberia.
Alan John Miller (born 1962), founder of Divine Truth, a new religious movement based in Australia. Alan John Miller, also known as A.J., who claims to be Jesus of Nazareth through reincarnation. Miller was formerly an elder in the Jehovah's Witnesses.
David Shayler (born 1965), former MI5 agent and whistleblower who declared himself the Messiah on 7 July 2007.[31]

Muslim messiah claimants[edit]

Main article: People claiming to be the Mahdi

Islamic tradition has a prophecy of the Mahdi, who will come alongside the return of Isa (Jesus).
Muhammad Jaunpuri (1443–1505), who traveled Northeastern India; he influenced the Mahdavia and the Zikris.
Báb (1819–1850), who declared himself to be the promised Mahdi in Shiraz, Iran in 1844. (Related to Baha'i claims.)
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian, India (1835–1908), claimed to be the awaited Mahdi as well as (Second Coming) and likeness of Jesus the promised Messiah at the end of time, being the only person in Islamic history who claimed to be both. He claimed to be Jesus in the metaphorical sense; in character. He founded the Ahmadiyya Movement in 1889 envisioning it to be the rejuvenation of Islam, and claimed to be commissioned by God for the reformation of mankind.[32] He declared that Jesus survived crucifixion and died a natural death (lived over the age of 100) having migrated towards the east- Kashmir.[33]
Muhammad Ahmad ("The Mad Mahdi") (1844–1885), who declared himself the Mahdi in 1881, defeated the Ottoman Egyptian authority, and founded a short-lived empire in Sudan.
Sayyid Mohammed Abdullah Hassan (1864–1920), who led the Dervish State in present-day Somalia in a two-decade long resistance movement between 1900 and 1920.
Rashad Khalifa (1935–1990), an Egyptian-American biochemist who claimed that he had discovered a mathematical code in the text of the Qur'an involving the number 19; he later claimed to be the "Messenger of the Covenant" and founded the "Submitters International" movement before being murdered.
Juhayman al-Otaibi (1936–1980), who seized the Grand Mosque in Mecca in November 1979 and declared his son-in-law the Mahdi.

Other/combination messiah claimants[edit]





Haile Selassie
This list features people who are said, either by themselves or their followers, to be some form of a messiah that do not easily fit into only Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Haile Selassie of Ethiopia (1892–1975), Messiah of the Rastafari movement. Never claimed himself to be Messiah, but was thus proclaimed by Leonard Howell, amongst others.
André Matsoua (1899–1942), Congolese founder of Amicale, proponents of which subsequently adopted him as Messiah.
Samael Aun Weor (1917–1977), born Víctor Manuel Gómez Rodríguez, Colombian citizen and later Mexican, was an author, lecturer and founder of the 'Universal Christian Gnostic Movement', according to him, 'the most powerful movement ever founded'. By 1972, Samael Aun Weor referenced that his death and resurrection would be occurring before 1978.
Nirmala Srivastava (1923–2011), guru and goddess of Sahaja Yoga, proclaimed herself to be the Comforter promised by Jesus (that is, the incarnation of the Holy Ghost / Adi Shakti).[34][35]
Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda (born 1946 - died 2013), a Puerto Rican preacher who had claimed to be both "the Man Jesus Christ" and the Antichrist at the same time. He claimed he was indwelled with the same spirit that dwelled in Jesus, however, Miranda also contradicted his claims of being Christ incarnate by also claiming he was the Antichrist, even going as far as tattooing the number of the beast (666) on his forearm, a behavior his followers also adopted. Founder of the "Growing in Grace" ministries, Miranda died on August 14, 2013 due to liver cancer.
Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi (born 25 November 1941) is a spiritual leader and the founder of the spiritual movements Messiah Foundation International (MFI) and Anjuman Serfaroshan-e-Islam.[36][37] He is controversial for being declared the Mehdi, Messiah, and Kalki Avatar by the MFI.[38][39][40]
Raël, leader of the International Raëlian Movement (born 30 September 1946); Rael claimed he met an extraterrestrial being in 1973 and became the Messiah.
World Teacher (unknown), a being claimed to be the Theosophical Maitreya and the Messiah (promised one) of all religions. He is said to have descended from the higher planes and manifested a physical body in early 1977 in the Himalayas, then on 19 July 1977 he is said to have taken a commercial airplane flight from Pakistan to England. He is currently said to be living in secret in London;[41][42][43] promoted by New Age activist Benjamin Creme and his organization, Share International (See Maitreya (Benjamin Creme)).
Ryuho Okawa (born 7 July 1956), is the founder of Happy Science in Japan. Okawa claims to channel the spirits of Muhammad, Christ, Buddha and Confucius and claims to be the incarnation of the supreme spiritual being called El Cantare.
 
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I was going to post something but Willie t took up all the room.
 

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Sure, there were even many false teachers in the OT beginning with the serpent in the Garden.
My point is simply that the proliferation of false teachers will mark the last days before Christ's return (with the emphasis on 'proliferation'). Jesus repeats this 3 times in His discourse in Matt 24, whereas the other signs were mentioned only once.
 

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That's the thing about prophecy. The events of the end times are nothing new, they will be a gigantic culmination of the trials and tribulations that have beset us since Christ ascended.
 

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That's the thing about prophecy. The events of the end times are nothing new, they will be a gigantic culmination of the trials and tribulations that have beset us since Christ ascended.
Not all...

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(2Th 2:3-4)


I believe that this 'apostasy' which will happen before the man of sin is revealed will be the result of a massive influx of false teaching.

As it restates here...

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2Th 2:10-12)
 
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Hmm, this actually kinda surprises me that this would be considered the most overlooked. Frankly it's the first thing I think of. Major factor in why I don't trust the vast majority of the churches of stone.
 

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Not all...

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(2Th 2:3-4)


I believe that this 'apostasy' which will happen before the man of sin is revealed will be the result of a massive influx of false teaching.

As it restates here...

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2Th 2:10-12)
And I believe Paul was speaking of the Antichrist sitting in that temple of God there in 2 Thess.2:4 is... what will cause the "strong delusion" he warned us about. The servants of that Antichrist preparing the way for that are the "many antichrists" that have long since been at work.
 
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What is apostasy?

ANYTHING that is outside of faith alone in Christ alone for salvation.

Believers and unbelievers will fight free Grace and His GIFT...........this is false teachers and prophets. Grace ,being relegated to a cuss word is THE clue that we are coming close to the end.

1."you can't choose God!"

2."you can lose your salvation!"...........................these are the signs, and this is the core of the false prophets messages.

It is sad, half of believers say, " you can't believe unless God forces you." and the other half says," you can lose your salvation."

this is the sign of the end.

He just asks us to BELIEVE and that message is so screwed up.........................He is going to have to end it soon.
 
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A few I found online... They have been with us since "the End Times" were proclaimed to have begun by Peter at Pentecost.

In Judaism, "messiah" originally meant a divinely appointed king, such as David, Cyrus the Great[1] or Alexander the Great.[2] Later, especially after the failure of the Hasmonean Kingdom (37 BC) and the Jewish–Roman wars (AD 66-135), the figure of the Jewish Messiah was one who would deliver the Jews from oppression and usher in an Olam Haba ("world to come") or Messianic Age. However the term “false messiah” was largely absent from rabbinic literature. The first mention is in the Sefer Zerubbabel, from the mid-seventh century, which uses the term, mashiah sheker, (“false messiah”).[3]
Simon of Peraea (c. Unknown – 4 BCE), a former slave of Herod the Great who rebelled and was killed by the Romans.[4]
Jesus of Nazareth (c. 5 BCE – 30 CE), leader of a Jewish sect who was crucified by the Romans at the instigation of Jewish leaders; Jews who believed him to be the Messiah were the first Christians, also known as Jewish Christians.[5] Muslims,[6] Christians[7] and Messianic Jews[8] believe him to be the real Messiah.
Athronges (c. 3 CE),[9] a shepherd turned rebel leader.
Simon bar Kokhba (died c. 135), founded a short-lived Jewish state before being defeated in the Second Jewish-Roman War.
Moses of Crete, who in about 440–470 persuaded the Jews of Crete to walk into the sea, as Moses had done, to return to Israel. The results were disastrous and he soon disappeared.
Ishak ben Ya'kub Obadiah Abu 'Isa al-Isfahani (684–705), who led a revolt in Persia against the Umayyad Caliph 'Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan.
David Alroy, born in Kurdistan, who around 1160 agitated against the caliph before being assassinated.
Moses Botarel of Cisneros, active around 1413; claimed to be a sorcerer able to combine the names of God.
Asher Lämmlein, a German near Venice who proclaimed himself a forerunner of the Messiah in 1502.
David Reubeni (1490–1541?) and Solomon Molcho (1500–1532), messianic adventurers who travelled in Portugal, Italy and Turkey; Molcho, who was a baptised Catholic, was tried by the Inquisition, convicted of apostasy and burned at the stake.
Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676), an Ottoman Jew who claimed to be the Messiah, but then converted to Islam; still has followers today in the Donmeh. Jacob Querido (?–1690), claimed to be the new incarnation of Sabbatai; later converted to Islam and led the Donmeh.
Miguel Cardoso (1630–1706), another successor of Sabbatai who claimed to be the "Messiah ben Ephraim."
Löbele Prossnitz (?–1750), attained some following amongst former followers of Sabbatai, calling himself the "Messiah ben Joseph."

Jacob Joseph Frank (1726–1791), who claimed to be the reincarnation of King David and preached a synthesis of Christianity and Judaism.

Christian messiah claimants[edit]





Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nuri, Baha'u'llah




Mirza Ghulam Ahmed




Simon Magus
See also: List of people claimed to be Jesus and Second Coming

Verses in the Christian Bible tell that Jesus will come again in some fashion; various people have claimed to, in fact, be the second coming of Jesus. Others have been styled a new messiah still under the umbrella of Christianity. The Synoptic gospels (Matthew 24:4, 6, 24; Mark 13:5, 21-22; and Luke 21:3) all use the term pseudochristos for messianic pretenders.[10]
Simon Magus (early 1st century), was a Samaritan, and a native of Gitta; he was considered a god in Simonianism; he "darkly hinted" that he himself was Christ, calling himself the Standing One.
Dositheos the Samaritan (mid 1st century), was one of the supposed founders of Mandaeanism. After the time of Jesus he wished to persuade the Samaritans that he himself was the Messiah prophesied by Moses.[11] Dositheus pretended to be the Christ (Messiah), applying Deuteronomy 18:15 to himself, and he compares him with Theudas and Judas the Galilean.[11][12]
Tanchelm of Antwerp (c. 1110), who violently opposed the sacrament and the Eucharist.
Ann Lee (1736–1784), a central figure to the Shakers,[13] who thought she "embodied all the perfections of God" in female form and considered herself to be Christ’s female counterpart in 1772.[14]
Bernhard Müller (c. 1799–1834) claimed to be the Lion of Judah and a prophet in possession of the Philosopher's stone.
John Nichols Thom (1799–1838), who had achieved fame and followers as Sir William Courtenay and adopted the claim of Messiah after a period in a mental institute.[15]
Arnold Potter (1804–1872), Latter Day Saint schismatic leader; called himself "Potter Christ"
Hong Xiuquan (1814–1864), Hakka Chinese; claimed himself to be the younger brother of Jesus Christ; started the Taiping Rebellion and founded the Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace. Committed suicide before the fall of Tianjing (Nanjing) in 1864.
Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nuri, Bahá'u'lláh (1817–1864), born Shiite, adopting Bábism later in life, he claimed to be the promised one of all religions, and founded the Bahá'í Faith.
Jacobina Mentz Maurer (1841 or 1842-1874) was a German-Brazilian woman who lived and died in the state of Rio Grande do Sul who emerged as a messianic prophetess, a representation of God, and later declared the very reincarnation of Jesus Christ on earth by her German-speaking community called Die Muckers (or the false saints) by her enemies, Die Spotters (or the mockers). After a number of deadly confrontations with outsiders, Jacobina was shot to death together with many of her followers by the Brazilian Imperial Army.
William W. Davies (1833–1906), Latter Day Saint (Mormon) schismatic leader; claimed that his infant son Arthur (born 1868) was the reincarnated Jesus Christ.
Cyrus Reed Teed (October 18, 1839 - December 22, 1908, erroneously Cyrus Tweed) was a U.S. eclectic physician and alchemist turned religious leader and messiah. In 1869, claiming divine inspiration, Dr. Teed took on the name Koresh and proposed a new set of scientific and religious ideas he called Koreshanity.
Father Divine (George Baker) (c. 1880 – September 10, 1965), an African American spiritual leader from about 1907 until his death who claimed to be God.
André Matsoua (1899–1942), Congolese founder of Amicale, proponents of which subsequently adopted him as Messiah in the late 1920s.
Samael Aun Weor (1917–1977), born Víctor Manuel Gómez Rodríguez, Colombian citizen and later Mexican, was an author, lecturer and founder of the 'Universal Christian Gnostic Movement', according to him, 'the most powerful movement ever founded'. By 1972, he referenced that his death and resurrection would be occurring before 1978.[citation needed]
Ahn Sahng-hong (1918–1985), founder of the World Mission Society Church of God and worshiped by the members as the messiah.[16]
Sun Myung Moon (1920–2012), founder and leader of the Unification Church established in Seoul, South Korea, who considered himself the Second Coming of Christ, but not Jesus himself.[17] Although it is generally believed by Unification Church members ("Moonies") that he was the Messiah and the Second Coming of Christ and was anointed to fulfill Jesus' unfinished mission.[17]
Yahweh ben Yahweh (1935–2007), born as Hulon Mitchell, Jr., a black nationalist and separatist who created the Nation of Yahweh and allegedly orchestrated the murder of dozens of persons.
Laszlo Toth (1940-2012) claimed he was Jesus Christ as he battered Michelangelo's Pieta with a geologist hammer.
Wayne Bent (born 1941), also known as Michael Travesser of the Lord Our Righteousness Church, also known as the "Strong City Cult", convicted December 15, 2008 of one count of criminal sexual contact of a minor and two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor in 2008.[18]
Iesu Matayoshi (born 1944), in 1997 he established the World Economic Community Party based on his conviction that he is God and the Christ.
Jung Myung Seok (born 1945), a South Korean who was a member of the Unification Church in the 1970s, before breaking off to found the dissenting group[19] now known as Providence Church in 1980.[20][21] He also considers himself the Second Coming of Christ, but not Jesus himself in 1980.[22] He believes he has come to finish the incomplete message and mission of Jesus Christ, asserting that he is the Messiah and has the responsibility to save all mankind.[23] He claims that the Christian doctrine of resurrection is false but that people can be saved through him.[24]
Claude Vorilhon now known as Raël "messenger of the Elohim" (born 1946), a French professional test driver and former automobile journalist became founder and leader of UFO religion the Raël Movement in 1972, which teaches that life on Earth was scientifically created by a species of extraterrestrials, which they call Elohim. He claimed he met an extraterrestrial humanoid in 1973 and became the Messiah.[25] Then devoted himself to the task he said was given by his "biological father", an extraterrestrial named Yahweh.[26]
José Luis de Jesús (1946–2013), founder and leader of Creciendo en Gracia sect (Growing In Grace International Ministry, Inc.), based in Miami, Florida. He claimed to be both Jesus Christ returned and the Antichrist, and exhibited a "666" tattoo on his forearm. He has referred to himself as Jesucristo Hombre, which translates to "Jesus Christ made Man".
Inri Cristo (born 1948) of Indaial, Brazil, a claimant to be the second Jesus.[27]
Apollo Quiboloy (born 1950), founder and leader of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ religious group, who claims that Jesus Christ is the "Almighty Father," that Quiboloy is "His Appointed Son," and that salvation is now completed. Proclaims himself as the "Appointed Son of the God" not direct to the point as the "Begotten Son of the God" in 1985.[28]
David Icke (born 1952), of Great Britain, has described himself as "the son of God", and a "channel for the Christ spirit".
Brian David Mitchell was born on October 18, 1953 in Salt Lake City, Utah, he believed himself the fore-ordained angel born on earth to be the Davidic "servant" prepared by God as a type of Messiah who would restore the divinely led kingdom of Israel to the world in preparation for Christ's second coming. (Mitchell's belief in such an end-times figure – also known among many fundamentalist Latter Day Saints as "the One Mighty and Strong" – appeared to be based in part on a reading of the biblical book of Isaiah by the independent LDS Hebraist, Avraham Gileadi, with which Mitchell became familiar from his former participation with Stirling Allan's American Study Group.)[29][30]
David Koresh (Vernon Wayne Howell) (1959–1993), leader of the Branch Davidians.
Maria Devi Christos (born 1960), founder of the Great White Brotherhood.
Sergey Torop (born 1961), who started to call himself "Vissarion", founder of the Church of the Last Testament and the spiritual community Ecopolis Tiberkul in Southern Siberia.
Alan John Miller (born 1962), founder of Divine Truth, a new religious movement based in Australia. Alan John Miller, also known as A.J., who claims to be Jesus of Nazareth through reincarnation. Miller was formerly an elder in the Jehovah's Witnesses.
David Shayler (born 1965), former MI5 agent and whistleblower who declared himself the Messiah on 7 July 2007.[31]

Muslim messiah claimants[edit]

Main article: People claiming to be the Mahdi

Islamic tradition has a prophecy of the Mahdi, who will come alongside the return of Isa (Jesus).
Muhammad Jaunpuri (1443–1505), who traveled Northeastern India; he influenced the Mahdavia and the Zikris.
Báb (1819–1850), who declared himself to be the promised Mahdi in Shiraz, Iran in 1844. (Related to Baha'i claims.)
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian, India (1835–1908), claimed to be the awaited Mahdi as well as (Second Coming) and likeness of Jesus the promised Messiah at the end of time, being the only person in Islamic history who claimed to be both. He claimed to be Jesus in the metaphorical sense; in character. He founded the Ahmadiyya Movement in 1889 envisioning it to be the rejuvenation of Islam, and claimed to be commissioned by God for the reformation of mankind.[32] He declared that Jesus survived crucifixion and died a natural death (lived over the age of 100) having migrated towards the east- Kashmir.[33]
Muhammad Ahmad ("The Mad Mahdi") (1844–1885), who declared himself the Mahdi in 1881, defeated the Ottoman Egyptian authority, and founded a short-lived empire in Sudan.
Sayyid Mohammed Abdullah Hassan (1864–1920), who led the Dervish State in present-day Somalia in a two-decade long resistance movement between 1900 and 1920.
Rashad Khalifa (1935–1990), an Egyptian-American biochemist who claimed that he had discovered a mathematical code in the text of the Qur'an involving the number 19; he later claimed to be the "Messenger of the Covenant" and founded the "Submitters International" movement before being murdered.
Juhayman al-Otaibi (1936–1980), who seized the Grand Mosque in Mecca in November 1979 and declared his son-in-law the Mahdi.

Other/combination messiah claimants[edit]





Haile Selassie
This list features people who are said, either by themselves or their followers, to be some form of a messiah that do not easily fit into only Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Haile Selassie of Ethiopia (1892–1975), Messiah of the Rastafari movement. Never claimed himself to be Messiah, but was thus proclaimed by Leonard Howell, amongst others.
André Matsoua (1899–1942), Congolese founder of Amicale, proponents of which subsequently adopted him as Messiah.
Samael Aun Weor (1917–1977), born Víctor Manuel Gómez Rodríguez, Colombian citizen and later Mexican, was an author, lecturer and founder of the 'Universal Christian Gnostic Movement', according to him, 'the most powerful movement ever founded'. By 1972, Samael Aun Weor referenced that his death and resurrection would be occurring before 1978.
Nirmala Srivastava (1923–2011), guru and goddess of Sahaja Yoga, proclaimed herself to be the Comforter promised by Jesus (that is, the incarnation of the Holy Ghost / Adi Shakti).[34][35]
Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda (born 1946 - died 2013), a Puerto Rican preacher who had claimed to be both "the Man Jesus Christ" and the Antichrist at the same time. He claimed he was indwelled with the same spirit that dwelled in Jesus, however, Miranda also contradicted his claims of being Christ incarnate by also claiming he was the Antichrist, even going as far as tattooing the number of the beast (666) on his forearm, a behavior his followers also adopted. Founder of the "Growing in Grace" ministries, Miranda died on August 14, 2013 due to liver cancer.
Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi (born 25 November 1941) is a spiritual leader and the founder of the spiritual movements Messiah Foundation International (MFI) and Anjuman Serfaroshan-e-Islam.[36][37] He is controversial for being declared the Mehdi, Messiah, and Kalki Avatar by the MFI.[38][39][40]
Raël, leader of the International Raëlian Movement (born 30 September 1946); Rael claimed he met an extraterrestrial being in 1973 and became the Messiah.
World Teacher (unknown), a being claimed to be the Theosophical Maitreya and the Messiah (promised one) of all religions. He is said to have descended from the higher planes and manifested a physical body in early 1977 in the Himalayas, then on 19 July 1977 he is said to have taken a commercial airplane flight from Pakistan to England. He is currently said to be living in secret in London;[41][42][43] promoted by New Age activist Benjamin Creme and his organization, Share International (See Maitreya (Benjamin Creme)).
Ryuho Okawa (born 7 July 1956), is the founder of Happy Science in Japan. Okawa claims to channel the spirits of Muhammad, Christ, Buddha and Confucius and claims to be the incarnation of the supreme spiritual being called El Cantare.


:)Impressive!
 
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What is apostasy?

ANYTHING that is outside of faith alone in Christ alone for salvation.

Believers and unbelievers will fight free Grace and His GIFT...........this is false teachers and prophets. Grace ,being relegated to a cuss word is THE clue that we are coming close to the end.

1."you can't choose God!"

2."you can lose your salvation!"...........................these are the signs, and this is the core of the false prophets messages.

It is sad, half of believers say, " you can't believe unless God forces you." and the other half says," you can lose your salvation."

this is the sign of the end.

He just asks us to BELIEVE and that message is so screwed up.........................He is going to have to end it soon.


There are many things to look for as far as signs go. One I see is what you mentioned Gr8grace. The preaching against grace and truth that Jesus brought. Paul warned that if any one brings any other gospel they would be accursed. I see major fights over the proclamation and witness of the gospel of grace and truth. Many are against this grace even to the degree of anger and calling other believers heretics.

It's a sign of the times as it has always been to call good evil and evil good. That is something the enemy brings in to try to divide the church.

Jesus said that the church - the bride - is without spot or blemish. Another reason to believe in the full and free grace Jesus brought.
:) Only the full and free grace that Jesus brought with His blood to give us could make us whiter than snow. He can come at any time now and He has made us ready.

We are the righteousness of God IN Christ. 2 Cor.5:21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

The church has God's righteousness now because of Christ.



 
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Heres one where there seems to be a couple similarities, if you compare the one spirit with the wording and the working in the other a little

1 Kings 22:20-23

And the LORD said
, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead?

And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD,

and said, I will persuade him.

And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?

And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.

And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.

Now therefore, behold,

the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

Shows similarly a singular "a him"

2 Thes 2:9 [Even him] whose coming is after the working of Satan (whereas here adds) with all power and signs and lying wonders

Yet that "him" (in the singular sense) after that working is manifests "in" them (the many)

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

The opposite of not receiving a love for the truth would almost be by default one who loveth a lie

Which makes even more sense that the same follows,

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

If just comparing the spirit and after the working (even of Satan) that it seems to show so much below

And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets

But again, its God sending the same in accord with a lie (which is after the working of Satan)

2Thes 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

And again, we see its the LORD doing this, in sending the same

1Kings 22:23 Behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets

The cause accordingly as is shown in Thess is

Because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Whereas in the former picture the LORD sent a lying spirit then here,

2Thes 2: 9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

And again, "the because"

Because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.


And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

It seems to follow in the wording a little, one spirit (spirit of a lie or a lying spirit) in the mouths of many, the LORD sending him (then) as He will send a strong delusion after that they should believe the same (a lie).

Shows in Duet how he would prove them by false prophets to know whether you loved him. Jesus said he that loved him would keep his sayings, and that the word they heard was the Father's on that one.



 
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An often over looked sign depicting the last days is not wars and rumors of wars, or the restoration of Israel, or earthquakes, nor is it Gog surrounding and attacking Israel, or the increase of violence, but rather it is the proliferation of false prophets and teachings that will mark the end days. People will pooh pooh sound doctrine. Truth will be secondary.

Here are some samples....

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
(Mat 24:4-5)

And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
(Mat 24:11)

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
(Mat 24:23-24)

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2Th 2:11-12)


Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
(1Ti 4:1)

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
(2Ti 4:3-4)

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
(2Pe 2:1-3)

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
(Jud 1:4)
I don't think it's overlooked but I agree. All those things that are described you see now. Persecution of christians with ISIS and everything. Agape love grown cold: look at all the divorces, people bringing each other to court. Offense, hate. Without natural affection. Disobedient to parents.

The church is rising up and normal believers are getting the harvest in all over the world. China's state church has revival I read. Millions of muslims come to Jesus. I think those are the other trees. Look at the fig tree. In the last decades much more Jews came to Jesus. Messianic movement.

“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake.10*And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.*11*Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.*12*And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.*13*But he who endures to the end shall be saved.*14*And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

1968 Prophecy by 90 Year Old Woman in Norway

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2*For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3*Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4*Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5*Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
 
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Amen!...well said.

To deny the Lord and Master is to deny all that He has done for us in His finished work. Unfortunately the gospel has been watered down to " Ok..you get saved by grace through faith ..but now YOU have to do these "requirements"...they seemed to have forgotten Paul's admonishment ...having begun in the Spirit are you so foolish to think you can be perfected by the flesh? ".

Matthew 24:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


I think the preaching of the pure gospel of the grace of Christ is THE sign that the end will come. The true gospel has been watered down all through church history since it's inception. By the time 300 AD came a lot of it was watered down. The Lord is bringing back the message of salvation by grace through faith alone in the finished work of Christ. When THAT gospel is preached around the world - then the end will come.

What is apostasy?

ANYTHING that is outside of faith alone in Christ alone for salvation.

Believers and unbelievers will fight free Grace and His GIFT...........this is false teachers and prophets. Grace ,being relegated to a cuss word is THE clue that we are coming close to the end.

1."you can't choose God!"

2."you can lose your salvation!"...........................these are the signs, and this is the core of the false prophets messages.

It is sad, half of believers say, " you can't believe unless God forces you." and the other half says," you can lose your salvation."

this is the sign of the end.

He just asks us to BELIEVE and that message is so screwed up.........................He is going to have to end it soon.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Not all...

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(2Th 2:3-4)


I believe that this 'apostasy' which will happen before the man of sin is revealed will be the result of a massive influx of false teaching.

As it restates here...

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2Th 2:10-12)
Ya just took my response!!..lol

The falling away is the false prophets I believe, As people leave the truth of God, and follow these decieveing spirits who teach a false form of Christianity, or non at all..
 

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The true gospel of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ has been preached unto all the world, to all nations, and to every creature which is under heaven.


Amen!...well said.

To deny the Lord and Master is to deny all that He has done for us in His finished work. Unfortunately the gospel has been watered down to " Ok..you get saved by grace through faith ..but now YOU have to do these "requirements"...they seemed to have forgotten Paul's admonishment ...having begun in the Spirit are you so foolish to think you can be perfected by the flesh? ".

Matthew 24:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


I think the preaching of the pure gospel of the grace of Christ is THE sign that the end will come. The true gospel has been watered down all through church history since it's inception. By the time 300 AD came a lot of it was watered down. The Lord is bringing back the message of salvation by grace through faith alone in the finished work of Christ. When THAT gospel is preached around the world - then the end will come.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The true gospel of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ has been preached unto all the world, to all nations, and to every creature which is under heaven.
Not yet, according to how that part is to be interpreted (people groups or nations) there are still quit a few left yet. But we are getting close.
 
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Amen!...well said.

To deny the Lord and Master is to deny all that He has done for us in His finished work. Unfortunately the gospel has been watered down to " Ok..you get saved by grace through faith ..but now YOU have to do these "requirements"...they seemed to have forgotten Paul's admonishment ...having begun in the Spirit are you so foolish to think you can be perfected by the flesh? ".

Matthew 24:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


I think the preaching of the pure gospel of the grace of Christ is THE sign that the end will come. The true gospel has been watered down all through church history since it's inception. By the time 300 AD came a lot of it was watered down. The Lord is bringing back the message of salvation by grace through faith alone in the finished work of Christ. When THAT gospel is preached around the world - then the end will come.
The "grace" believer gospel is part of the falling away spoken of in the OP. It stands shoulder to shoulder with the emergent church movement in denying Christ.

It's funny that you should mention 300 AD. That's around the time that Augustine introduced gnostic error into church doctrine, sharply deviating from what the church fathers before him taught and believed. The pure lawless "grace" gospel is just Augustinian gnosticism gone to seed.
 
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The real scary thing about the explosion of false teachers in these last days is many are becoming more subtle. If they can't fool people by blatantly saying salvation is by faith and works, they just blend in like a chameleon and pretend to believe salvation by grace through faith, while teaching backdoor salvation by works! We need to keep contending for the faith and expose false doctrine!

"Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." Jude 1:3
 
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What is apostasy?

ANYTHING that is outside of faith alone in Christ alone for salvation.

Believers and unbelievers will fight free Grace and His GIFT...........this is false teachers and prophets. Grace ,being relegated to a cuss word is THE clue that we are coming close to the end.

1."you can't choose God!"

2."you can lose your salvation!"...........................these are the signs, and this is the core of the false prophets messages.

It is sad, half of believers say, " you can't believe unless God forces you." and the other half says," you can lose your salvation."

this is the sign of the end.

He just asks us to BELIEVE and that message is so screwed up.........................He is going to have to end it soon.
#2 is not an end time teaching. That has been taught throughout church history. It's only in modern times that we are seeing the opposite being taught by false prophets.