Another requirement for salvation; Not that simple
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Might be a bit of a cultural shock to you, but Lucifer does not apply to the Devil. It is a comment about the King of Babylon.
Never-the-less, do you believe that God is a loving God, kind and forgiving, if yes, why would He create a place of torment for his worst enemy and then give them baddies to torture for eternity...Sounds a bit like the dark ages again.
Never-the-less, do you believe that God is a loving God, kind and forgiving, if yes, why would He create a place of torment for his worst enemy and then give them baddies to torture for eternity...Sounds a bit like the dark ages again.
Matthew 25
1Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
1Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
A believer can be saved and not be His disciple. They run the risk of being left behind at the pre trib rapture event to be received later on as vessel unto dishonor in His House after the great tribulation.
Those that are saved AND are His disciples shall be received as vessels unto honor in His House to attend the Marriage Supper of the Lamb at the pre trib rapture event.
That is what it means to count the cost of discipleship.. not count the cost of salvation, but of discipleship.. to be received as a vessel unto honor in His House because many saved believers will not just be found NOT abiding in Him as His disciples, but they may find themselves loving this life and their loved ones more than the Bridegroom to leave with Him when He comes as they would prefer to stay behind. That is why Jesus said basically "Remember Lot's wife and that those who seek to save their lives, shall lose it."
Seeing how destruction will come after the pre trib rapture, there is really no way anyone can save their lives on earth that they were foolish to love more than Him when the Bridegroom comes.
Luke 21:[SUP]33 [/SUP]Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.[SUP] 34 [/SUP]And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.[SUP] 35 [/SUP]For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.[SUP]36 [/SUP]Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Those that are saved AND are His disciples shall be received as vessels unto honor in His House to attend the Marriage Supper of the Lamb at the pre trib rapture event.
That is what it means to count the cost of discipleship.. not count the cost of salvation, but of discipleship.. to be received as a vessel unto honor in His House because many saved believers will not just be found NOT abiding in Him as His disciples, but they may find themselves loving this life and their loved ones more than the Bridegroom to leave with Him when He comes as they would prefer to stay behind. That is why Jesus said basically "Remember Lot's wife and that those who seek to save their lives, shall lose it."
Seeing how destruction will come after the pre trib rapture, there is really no way anyone can save their lives on earth that they were foolish to love more than Him when the Bridegroom comes.
Luke 21:[SUP]33 [/SUP]Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.[SUP] 34 [/SUP]And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.[SUP] 35 [/SUP]For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.[SUP]36 [/SUP]Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
I would suggest being careful with words like disciple. The god of this world is a copy cat turning the meaning upside down . A disciple is simply a student of the teacher. Husbands obey your wives. XLOL…. if you grin your in
The disciples who were saved understood what it meant for the works of the flesh.... they profit for zero nothing nada…. it is rather the spirit of the word that gives spirit life.
The other disciples who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, fell away in unbelief (no faith) and no longer walked with Christ
Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God. Joh 6:60
A person can do all the wonderful works they can produce and still hope to be found with a righteousness of their own self. Christian will not be classified as those in whom Christ called workers of iniquity doing despite to the Spirit of grace, the Spirit of life .His word is Spirit and is eternal life.
My comments in (purple) to help keep tract of whose faith and where it comes from and who it is imputed to and from . The unconverted Jew who also required a sign before they could belive( themselves) they kept getting it upside down
Phi 3:9 And be found in him, “not having” mine own righteousness, which is of the law(that kills) , but that which is through the faith of Christ(from Him), the righteousness which is of God (from Him), by faith....(God's faith)
“not having” mine own righteousness
The disciples who were saved understood what it meant for the works of the flesh.... they profit for zero nothing nada…. it is rather the spirit of the word that gives spirit life.
The other disciples who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, fell away in unbelief (no faith) and no longer walked with Christ
Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God. Joh 6:60
A person can do all the wonderful works they can produce and still hope to be found with a righteousness of their own self. Christian will not be classified as those in whom Christ called workers of iniquity doing despite to the Spirit of grace, the Spirit of life .His word is Spirit and is eternal life.
My comments in (purple) to help keep tract of whose faith and where it comes from and who it is imputed to and from . The unconverted Jew who also required a sign before they could belive( themselves) they kept getting it upside down
Phi 3:9 And be found in him, “not having” mine own righteousness, which is of the law(that kills) , but that which is through the faith of Christ(from Him), the righteousness which is of God (from Him), by faith....(God's faith)
“not having” mine own righteousness
No words that say that . Just like no words like..pick up the cross or I will deny and you willl go to hell .
Pick up your cross must be defined.
It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. 2Ti 2:11
We do have an examble of one who picks up thier own cross denying Christ to be yoked with... to being yoked to another the antichrist the father of lies, Satan . Christ who cannot deny he paid the full eternal wage and not a down payment a yearly payback plan for Peter sin. Christ called him back over and over every time Peter denired Christ in unbeleif (no faith).
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Mat 16:25
He does not send a strong delusion to belive the lie of those who understand He is no longer brining any new revelations . Peter should of been aware just who it was that was working to prevent Christ. He like us learned the hard way or at least I do .
Question....How long does his mercy last?
Pick up your cross must be defined.
It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. 2Ti 2:11
We do have an examble of one who picks up thier own cross denying Christ to be yoked with... to being yoked to another the antichrist the father of lies, Satan . Christ who cannot deny he paid the full eternal wage and not a down payment a yearly payback plan for Peter sin. Christ called him back over and over every time Peter denired Christ in unbeleif (no faith).
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. Mat 16:25
He does not send a strong delusion to belive the lie of those who understand He is no longer brining any new revelations . Peter should of been aware just who it was that was working to prevent Christ. He like us learned the hard way or at least I do .
Question....How long does his mercy last?
Not according to Jesus
It is not easy and only few Will be save
matt 7
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that Find It
It is not easy and only few Will be save
matt 7
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that Find It
Revelation 20
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Consider this my friend.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Consider this my friend.
That salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works is easy to understand (Ephesians 2:8,9). It's just not easy for people to ACCEPT. It's a shame that human pride will not allow so many people to receive Christ. Their hands are full of their works and they will not let go in order to take hold of Christ through FAITH.
Matt 16
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Verse 24 If any man Will come after me let him Deny himself
and take up the cross and follow me
any man, not only apostle must take up the cross. It is require for every Christian to suffer for the Lord
24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Verse 24 If any man Will come after me let him Deny himself
and take up the cross and follow me
any man, not only apostle must take up the cross. It is require for every Christian to suffer for the Lord
After a casual reading of the sheep and goats (Matthew 25:31-46), these verses "on the surface" seem to suggest that salvation is the result of good works. *All Scripture proves itself right and non-contradictory when compared with the totality of Scripture. This passage has to be taken alongside the whole of Scripture.
Jesus was not advocating salvation by works. That would be contrary to Romans 4:4-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; 2 Timothy 1:9; Titus 3:5 etc... One's works are an effect of (and therefore indication of) one's salvation status, rather than being a cause of one's salvation. This is not performance based salvation, but salvation based performance. The good deeds mentioned in Matthew 25:35-36 are merely the fruit that will be manifest in the lives of the redeemed.
Those who are placed at Christ's right hand are not there based on the merits of their good deeds, but because Christ imputed His righteousness to them (Romans 4:2-6; Philippians 3:9). When works are mentioned in connection with salvation, the works are always the result of, not the condition of, receiving salvation. The stress is on works as a manifestation of one's faith (or lack thereof), not simply on the faith from which these works follow. So it is understandable that in this context, Matthew would stress the works that are a manifestation of "faith by which one receives eternal life."
Notice how love for other Christians is an indication of one's salvation status: 1 John 3:10 - In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. He who practices righteousness and loves his brother does so BECAUSE he is "of God" not to become of God. 1 John 3:14 - We know that we have (past tense) passed from death to life, because we love the brethren (present tense). Loving the brethren is the result of, not the condition of passing from death to life.
Jesus was not advocating salvation by works. That would be contrary to Romans 4:4-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; 2 Timothy 1:9; Titus 3:5 etc... One's works are an effect of (and therefore indication of) one's salvation status, rather than being a cause of one's salvation. This is not performance based salvation, but salvation based performance. The good deeds mentioned in Matthew 25:35-36 are merely the fruit that will be manifest in the lives of the redeemed.
Those who are placed at Christ's right hand are not there based on the merits of their good deeds, but because Christ imputed His righteousness to them (Romans 4:2-6; Philippians 3:9). When works are mentioned in connection with salvation, the works are always the result of, not the condition of, receiving salvation. The stress is on works as a manifestation of one's faith (or lack thereof), not simply on the faith from which these works follow. So it is understandable that in this context, Matthew would stress the works that are a manifestation of "faith by which one receives eternal life."
Notice how love for other Christians is an indication of one's salvation status: 1 John 3:10 - In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother. He who practices righteousness and loves his brother does so BECAUSE he is "of God" not to become of God. 1 John 3:14 - We know that we have (past tense) passed from death to life, because we love the brethren (present tense). Loving the brethren is the result of, not the condition of passing from death to life.