Answering.

Th0mas · Jun 25, 2016

I thought to add what you may look at below. I have seen before all those parts you posted and I have had a good understanding of them but I did learn some new things which may be thought of as not easily seen and very deep.

1 Thessalonians 5: 20 & 21

Do not treat prophecies with contempt
but test them all; hold on to what is good,

From that above, all of it including "hold on to what is good".

You may compare above with what you may look at below.

Sirach 21:15

When an intelligent person hears a wise saying, he praises it and adds to it; when a fool hears it, he laughs at it and throws it behind his back.

You may look below at what I have said to help you remember, if you needed me to and you may think of it as me saying some things again.

1 Thessalonians 5: 20 & 21

Do not treat prophecies with contempt
but test them all; hold on to what is good,

From that above, all of it including "hold on to what is good" you may compare to Sirach 21:15 which you may see that I put above.

You may compare what is above to what you may look at below and think about all of the things I have said again if you needed me to help you remember.

Part of Philippians 3:1

It is no trouble for me to write the same things to you again, and it is a safeguard for you.

By me continuing to add to what you said in your post to me, you may look below and think of a comparison to the post you sent to me, a comparison I wanted to show.

Matthew 11: 28 & 29

"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.

1 Kings 4:33

He spoke about plant life, from the cedar of Lebanon to the hyssop that grows out of walls. He also spoke about animals and birds, reptiles and fish.

You may compare what is above with what is below.

Romans 12: 6,7 & 8

We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith;

if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach;

if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.

ukok102nak · Jun 25, 2016

Th0mas said:

:smoke: we have just read your post now and
as it is written
:read:
2 Peter 1:21
For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but men spoke from God, being moved by the Holy Spirit.

Luke 10:21
In that same hour Yeshua rejoiced in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for so it was well-pleasing in your sight."

... . so as our lord jesus christ the only begotten son of god
said before
:read:
Luke 10:19
Behold, I give you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy. Nothing will in any way hurt you.
20 Nevertheless, do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."

Luke 16:17
But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for one tiny stroke of a pen in the Law to become void.

Luke 21:33
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will by no means pass away.

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godbless us all always

Th0mas · Jun 25, 2016

ukok102nak said:

Have you ever read four books of 'On Christian Doctrine' by St. Augustine of Hippo ?

You may look below at part of 'On Christian Doctrine' at part of "Chap. 12. A diversity of interpretations is useful. Errors arising from ambiguous words"

"And very often a translator, to whom the meaning is not well known, is deceived by an ambiguity in the original language, and puts upon the passage a construction that is wholly alien to the sense of the writer. As for example, some texts read: "Their feet are sharp to shed blood;" for the word "oxus" among the Greeks means both sharp and swift. And so he saw the true meaning who translated: "Their feet are swift to shed blood." The other, taking the wrong sense of an ambiguous word, fell into error. Now translations such as this are not obscure, but false; and there is a wide difference between the two things."

On Christian Doctrine, in Four Books - Christian Classics Ethereal Library

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Proverbs 14:15

The simple believe anything, but the prudent give thought to their steps.

ukok102nak · Jun 25, 2016

:8) no we never try any of it but we will try to
as it is written
:read:
John 3:31
He who comes from above is above all. He who is from the Earth belongs to the Earth, and speaks of the Earth. He who comes from heaven is above all.
32*What he has seen and heard, of that he testifies; and no one receives his witness.
33*He who has received his witness has set his seal to this, that God is true.
34*For he whom God has sent speaks the words of God; for hef gives the Spirit without measure.

:smoke: by the way
why he never translate this question
"WHERE WAS HE
OUR LORD GOD THE ALMIGHTY FATHER WHO IS GOOD AND DOESNT LIE
BEFORE HE CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH"

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godbless us all always

Ariel82 · Jun 25, 2016

*In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.*He was with God in the beginning.*Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.*In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.*The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. - John 1:1-5 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John1:1-5&version=NIV

Th0mas · Jun 25, 2016

ukok102nak said:

I have been testing you to learn what your experience is, but not because I want to reject you and that I'm being arrogant. You may think of yourself testing me.

I didn't say the translation I gave you of Luke 6:27 was correct.

I want to show below for other people to see, the translation I gave you of Luke 6:27.

A translation of Luke 6:27

"But to you who are listening I say: goodwill to your enemies, do good to those who neglect you,"

What do you think of the translation judging by a definition of the word "goodwill" and a definition of the word "neglect", definitions which you may look at below.

Goodwill

1. friendly disposition; benevolence; kindness.

Goodwill | Define Goodwill at Dictionary.com

Neglect

1.1 The action of not taking proper care of someone or something:

neglect - definition of neglect in English from the Oxford dictionary[SUB][SUP]
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ukok102nak · Jun 25, 2016

Th0mas said:

:smoke: as the same manner we did unto you
but with a simple question like this
:read:
"WHERE WAS HE
OUR LORD GOD THE ALMIGHTY FATHER WHO IS GOOD AND DOESNT LIE
BEFORE HE CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH"

... . translating the language is very diffirent from
interpreting the words of god
as it is written
:read:
2 Corinthians 3:6
who also made us sufficient as servants of a New Covenant; not of the letter, but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

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godbless us all always

Th0mas · Jun 25, 2016

ukok102nak said:

Have you ever seen the "1769 King James Bible Introduction" ? You may look at part of it below.

The praise of the Holy Scriptures

"it was said unto St. Augustine by a supernatural voice. "Whatsoever is in the Scriptures, believe me," saith the same St. Augustine, "is high and divine; there is verily truth, and a doctrine most fit for the refreshing of men's minds, and truly so tempered, that everyone may draw from thence that which is sufficient for him, if he come to draw with a devout and pious mind, as true religion requireth".

1769 KING JAMES BIBLE INTRODUCTION KJV

You may compare what is above with what is below and you may see that what is below shows part of what I posted to you, page 9, post #163 of this "Answering" thread.

"Have you ever read four books of 'On Christian Doctrine' by St. Augustine of Hippo ?

You may look below at part of 'On Christian Doctrine' at part of "Chap. 12. A diversity of interpretations is useful. Errors arising from ambiguous words"

ukok102nak · Jun 25, 2016

Th0mas said:

:smoke: better to believe what our lord jesus christ says
:read:
33*He spoke another parable to them. "The Kingdom of Heaven is like yeast, which a woman took, and hid in three measuresd of meal, until it was all leavened."
34*Yeshua spoke all these things in parables to the multitudes; and without a parable, he did not speak to them,
35*that it might be fulfilled which was spoken through the prophet, saying,
"I will open my mouth in parables;
****I will utter things hidden since the beginning of the world. e "f

... . since we never mentioned about the doctrine of man is way much diffirent from
the doctrine of god
:read:
3*All which they will say unto you, observe and do; but their works do not do, because they say, and do not do.
4*For they bind heavy burdens that are grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not lift a finger to help them.
5*But all their works they do to be seen by others. They make their tefillin broad and enlarge the fringe of their garments,
6*and love the place of honor at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues,
7*the salutations in the marketplaces, and to be called 'Rabbi' by men.
8*But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for one is your Teacher,a and all of you are brothers.
9*Call no man on the earth your father, for one is your Father, he who is in heaven.
10*Neither be called masters, for one is your master, the Messiah.
11*But he who is greatest among you will be your servant.
12*Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

... . by the way
have you ever read the answer to this question
:read:
"WHERE WAS HE
OUR LORD GOD THE ALMIGHTY FATHER WHO IS GOOD AND DOESNT LIE
BEFORE HE CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH"

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godbless us all always

Th0mas · Jun 26, 2016

ukok102nak said:

You posted "8*But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for one is your Teacher,a and all of you are brothers." You may look below and compare with what you posted. What may your thoughts be about the comparison ? I'm testing you as commanded in 1 John 4:1.

Matthew 5:19

Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Romans 12:7

if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach;

1 Timothy 3:2

Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

1 Timothy 4:11

Command and teach these things.

2 Timothy 2:24

And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.

Titus 2:3

Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good.

ukok102nak · Jun 26, 2016

:smoke: its not that you were testing
but the written scriptures from NHEBME VERSION OF THE HOLY BIBLE
and if you are getting upset about it you can try any version as you like

:8) unlike that man made a doctrine base on what beliefs
though he used the word christian and holy spirit
his interpretation doesnt count on what the scriptures says
:read
15*and having fitted your feet with the preparation of the Good News of peace;
16*above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the evil one.
17*And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the spoken word of God;

:8) as it is written
:read:
Isaias: 28. 9.
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11. For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
13. But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

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godbless us all always

ukok102nak · Jun 26, 2016

Th0mas said:

AND STILL THERES NO ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION
:read:
"WHERE WAS HE
OUR LORD GOD THE ALMIGHTY FATHER WHO IS GOOD AND DOESNT LIE
BEFORE HE CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH"
~;> as it says test the spirits if its the holy spirit of god that is speaking among them so that no one would be decieve by those who speaks only for themselves

:smoke: its not that you were testing us
but the written scriptures from NHEBME VERSION OF THE HOLY BIBLE
and if you are getting upset about it you can try any version as you like

:8) unlike that man made a doctrine base on what beliefs
though he used the word christian and holy spirit
his interpretation doesnt count on what the scriptures says
:read
15*and having fitted your feet with the preparation of the Good News of peace;
16*above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the evil one.
17*And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the spoken word of God;

:8) as it is written
:read:
Isaias: 28. 9.
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11. For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
13. But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

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godbless us all always

Th0mas · Jun 26, 2016

ukok102nak said:

You posted "its not that you were testing" What may you think proves that precisely ? Patience is a strength, I'm not upset.

Are you thinking that you didn't need to be taught the word of God and that you didn't need to look in man's dictionaries and search for explanations of things and that God doesn't teach about possible translation errors like St. Augustine did and that there aren't times when you may disagree with some of what a person thinks but you may agree with some of what a person thinks and are you thinking that God doesn't teach by using people who have right and wrong judgements ?

ukok102nak · Jun 26, 2016

Th0mas said:

:smoke: you never get the message arent you
for that verse is not coming from us but from
our lord jesus christ and his words are not his to own
because those words are his father words
which came from above
you may look below and compare with what you posted. What may your thoughts be about the comparison
and we are testing your faith that seems to look more on paganism
thats why from the passage #35 ends with the word "WORLD" as you may
look below with humility as you look above with righteousness as it is written
so we told you
not to be upset ( up and down or above and below which belongs to god )
as the set apart spirit guides those who wants to seek the truth

:now: you better have a good explanation about your post
and answer this question
``WHERE WAS HE
THE LORD OUR GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY WHO IS GOOD AND DOESNT LIE
BEFORE HE CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH``

... . its for the best to answer the question above
to have an answer which is unexpected to those who
look below unto to the people who were been understimated even at the time of our lord jesus christ
as it is written
:read:
Acts 4:13
Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they recognized that they had been with Jesus.

... . remember always
1 Peter 3:15
But set apart Christ as Lord in your hearts: and always be ready to give an answer to every man who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you; but do it with gentleness and respect,

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godbless as all always

Th0mas · Jun 26, 2016

Ariel82 said:

Proverbs 27:1

Do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may bring.

ukok102nak · Jun 26, 2016

Th0mas said:

:smoke: and by the way
the man you were talking about is serving paganism who idolize graven images believe it or not
for we also have brethrens who is a pagan believers
but diffirent from the likes of that man youve mentioned
and dictionaries were very diffirent from the bible isnt it
also that man was just translating the words from one language to another
but never interpreted any words that are written in the scripture with a christian
manner as it is written
you may try to interpret this passage
:read:
Hebrews 11:5
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
~;> UKJV VERSION OF HOLY BIBLE

... . SO TRY NOT TO BE UPSET ABOUT IT IF WE ARE NOT USING THE DICTIONARY
AS A BASIS IN OUR FAITH
BUT ONLY THE WRITTEN HOLY SCRIPTURES ALSO KNOWN AS THE HOLY BIBLE
FOR GOD GIVE US ALL THE RIGHTS TO DO WHAT IS RIGHTEIOUS
IN THE SIGHT OF GOD
AND NOT DOING THE EVIL THINGS BY DOING ANYTHING IN OUR OWN THINKING
WHICH IS NOT A SET APART SPIRIT OF GOOD
AS THIS IS WHAT THE MESSAGE IS REALLY ABOUT
AS IT IS WRITTEN
:read:
5*Thus says the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusts in man, and makes flesh his arm, and whose heart departs from the LORD.
6*For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good comes; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
7*Blessed is the man that trusts in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.
8*For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreads out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat comes, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.

about our pagan brethren
who just want to ask this time
about the graven images which those early hebrews and early jews made
were true or it was just a wrong judgement unto them by those people
who were known as the early pagans who worshipped graven images

:ty:

godbless us all always

miknik5 · Jun 26, 2016

He was hovering over the "waters" from the beginning and before HE separated the "waters" above from the "waters" below.
It also might be good to ask where will HE be when all has been accomplished and the knowledge of THE LORD covers the Earth as the waters of the seas and ALL will say come let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, HE will teach us HIS ways

And in that day no one will ever again prophecy "the LORD said" for it will clearly be a lie

and it might also be good to ask where will the firmament which separated the waters be

ukok102nak · Jun 26, 2016

:smoke: where is that "waters"
in heaven or on earth ... .

just askin . ...

:ty:

godbless us all always

miknik5 · Jun 26, 2016

Try not to go against THE SPIRIT of GOD and think oneself in service to GOD yet manifesting that one does not knowTHE SPIRIT of whom they claim.

Not by power or by might Sayeth the LORD. But by MY SPIRIT

many in that day will think
they are in service to GOD yet will uproot what they seem to be "Tares". Even when HE specifically said Not to

miknik5 · Jun 26, 2016

The whole "world" before GOD created was waters until HE separated and placed a firmament between

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