Anybody here think this is not our enemy?

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Most people in the United States think that Islam is a peaceful community. Why? Because our Government says so. Our main news outlets says so. Even our President says so. After all, their god is the same god as the Christian God. Right? I, with a few other people here in this forum have been trying to say that Islam is indeed our enemy that is controlled by Satan. Read Rev 13 and apply the beast to Islam and the dragon to Satan after you read all the laws posted in this link. So, let's look at the by-laws you, as a Christian, must live under if you were to change residence and live in a Islamic country. Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State

When you get done with that, this link is for all you Christians who do not know what Islam is. This link contains the nuts and bolts to true Islam. True History of Islam, Mohammed and the Koran
 
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ISLAM is not our enemy .

[video=youtube;yEdCXRGJuM8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEdCXRGJuM8[/video]
 
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Bistabuster said:
Most people in the United States think that Islam is a peaceful community. Why? Because our Government says so. Our main news outlets says so. Even our President says so. After all, their god is the same god as the Christian God. Right? I, with a few other people here in this forum have been trying to say that Islam is indeed our enemy that is controlled by Satan. Read Rev 13 and apply the beast to Islam and the dragon to Satan after you read all the laws posted in this link. So, let's look at the by-laws you, as a Christian, must live under if you were to change residence and live in a Islamic country. Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State

When you get done with that, this link is for all you Christians who do not know what Islam is. This link contains the nuts and bolts to true Islam. True History of Islam, Mohammed and the Koran
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James 4;4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

A friend of this world is an enemy of God and that includes any Christian that is a friend of this world.

Matt10;21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
 
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Muslims are smart .

Why do so many terrorists have engineering degrees? - Slate Magazine




Build-a-Bomber

Why do so many terrorists have engineering degrees?

Engineering is not a profession most people associate with religion. The concrete trade of buildings and bridges seems grounded in the secular principles of science. But the failed attack this Christmas by mechanical engineer Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was a reminder that the combination has a long history of producing violent radicals.
The anecdotal evidence has always been strong. The mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, Mohamed Atta, was an architectural engineer. Khalid Sheikh Mohamed got his degree in mechanical engineering. Two of the three founders of Lashkar-e-Taibi, the group believed to be behind the Mumbai attacks, were professors at the University of Engineering and Technology in Lahore.
A paper (PDF) released this summer by two sociologists, Diego Gambetta and Steffen Hertog, adds empirical evidence to this observation. The pair looked at more than 400 radical Islamic terrorists from more than 30 nations in the Middle East and Africa born mostly between the 1950s and 1970s. Earlier studies had shown that terrorists tend to be wealthier and better-educated than their countrymen, but Gambetta and Hertog found that engineers, in particular, were three to four times more likely to become violent terrorists than their peers in finance, medicine or the sciences. The next most radicalizing graduate degree, in a distant second, was Islamic Studies.
So what's with all the terrorist-engineers? The simple explanation is that engineering happens to be an especially popular field of study in the countries that produce violent radicals. But Gambetta and Hertog corrected for national enrollment numbers in engineering programs and got similar results. Even among Islamic terrorists born or raised in the West,
nearly 60 percent had engineering backgrounds.

Another possible explanation would be that engineers possess technical skills and architectural know-how that makes them attractive recruits for terrorist organizations. But the recent study found that engineers are just as likely to hold leadership roles within these organizations as they are to be working hands-on with explosives. In any case, their technical expertise may not be that useful, since most of the methods employed in terrorist attacks are rudimentary. It's true that eight of the 25 hijackers on 9/11 were engineers, but it was their experience with box cutters and flight school, not fancy degrees, that counted in the end.
Gambetta and Hertog propose that a lack of appropriate jobs in their home countries may have radicalized some engineers in Arab countries. The graduates they studied came of age at a time when a degree from a competitive technical program was supposed to provide a guarantee of high-status employment. But the promises of modernization and development were often stymied by repression and corruption, and many young engineers in the 1980s were left jobless and frustrated. One exception was Saudi Arabia, where engineers had little trouble finding work in an ever-expanding economy. As it happens, Saudi Arabia is also the only Arab state where the study found that engineers are not disproportionately represented in the radical movement.
What else might account for the radical, violent politics of so many former engineering students? Is there some set of traits that makes engineers more likely to participate in acts of terrorism? To answer this question, Gambetta and Hertog updated a study that was first published in 1972, when a pair of researchers named Seymour Lipset and Carl Ladd surveyed the ideological bent of their fellow American academics. According to the original paper, engineers described themselves as "strongly conservative" and "deeply religious" more often than professors in any other field. Gambetta and Hertog repeated this analysis for data gathered in 1984, so it might better match up with their terrorist sample. They found similar results, with 46 percent of the (male American) engineers describing themselves as both conservative and religious, compared with 22 percent of scientists.
Gambetta and Hertog write about a particular mind-set among engineers that disdains ambiguity and compromise. They might be more passionate about bringing order to their society and see the rigid, religious law put forward in radical Islam as the best way of achieving those goals. In online postings, Abdulmutallab expressed concern over the conflict between his secular lifestyle and more extreme religious views. "How should one put the balance right?" he wrote.
Terrorist organizations seem to have recognized this proclivity—in Abdulmutallab, obviously, but also among engineers in general. A 2005 report from British intelligence noted that Islamic extremists were frequenting college campuses, looking for "inquisitive" students who might be susceptible to their message. In particular, the report noted, they targeted engineers.

[video=youtube;JZDe9DCx7Wk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZDe9DCx7Wk[/video]
 
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What is more damaging to all of Christianity is the falling...the failing....the weakness of His children to stand for Him. All around the world we fail...we stumble...we deny Him....He weeps. <><
 
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Most of Muslims are ISTP and ESTJ

Religion and Type - An MBTI Perspective

Religions by Type

Artisans (SP)

Artisans all have ADHD, and so should select religions which are dramatic, colourful and fun. Something a bit kooky and extreme would be a bonus. Es should select something that they can throw their energy and flair into without having to engage in any discipline and study. Charismatic Protestantism is an excellent example. I's can select something more involved.

ISTP: Select something hardcore, preferably where you get to smite the enemies of God. Extremist Fundamentalist Islam is currently a popular choice.


ISFP: Select a religion based on whether its art or music appeals to you. High Episcopalianism or Catholocism are good for theatre and classical music. Avoid anything tacky.

ESFP: Pentacostalism.

ESTP: You are hellbound anyway, so don't bother. Just sleep in.

Guardians (SJ)

Guardians want to live dry, regimented lives. Guardians should select regimented, controlling religions with lots of rules that they seek to impose on others. The ideal choice would be a religion that is illogical and inconsistent yet impossible to argue down due to the sheer energy and stubbornness of their proponents. In selecting a religion, Guardians should temper the ideal choice for their type by the fact that for Guardians, Mom and Dad's religion is ideal, provided it is a good Guardian religion.

ISTJ: Methodism, or some other form of Protestant Christianity, as long as it is dry.

ISFJ: Judaism, Conservative or Orthodox

ESFJ: Catholocism

ESTJ: Islam, mainstream

The Personality Type Portraits
 
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MOST of Islam are not nutters that want to kill others.

MOST of Christianity are not nutters that want to kill others.

The thing is - when a Christian is attacked in the Lebanon or Iraq - WE as Christians pray for them and think it's sad.
We do not retaliate.

Islam (the Qu'ran, not the Kaddish or other additional works) says that all Islam is one people and so if one is attacked all should retaliate.

We have to be careful condemning how Islamic states treat others.
When we had 'Christian' states (a long while ago) we treated lots of people really badly too. Murder and burnings and torture and such were all sanctioned by the 'church' in such states.

I apply the adversary of the Bible to the iniquity of mankind.
Wherever it comes from.
Sometimes that's from someone claiming Islamic reasons.
Sometimes it's from someone claiming Christian reasons.

Iniquity is iniquity no matter who's name the fool claims to follow.
 
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I would ask this - in the last 100 years how many bombs killed USA citizens in America that were not related to Islamic-nutcases?

Compare the number.

Also compare how many innocent people died in Iraq due to 'coalition' bombs with how many innocent people died in NY, London and Madrid.

The west is not above retaliation. We do it. But we condemn those who also do when we are the target.

All violence is a crime in God's eye.
All will be held accountable for the blood they spilled - for food or in war.
 
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hattiebod

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Why are we fearful? rejoice, we are saved. He has done enough ...and a light shines on the earth! stop all this defeated talk. We are free! we live under the cover of His glory!!! <><
 
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I want harmony .

Christians and Muslims should listen to Japanese music. They will share same feeling. :eek:

[video=youtube;hpQeDr-jgOU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpQeDr-jgOU[/video]
 
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So Finland is the best country in the world for science and we're supposed to believe this is credible because.... ?
What a load of silliness.

The OECD is wrong. They have based contribution on mad things.
Finland is mostly high up because such a small country produces Nokia phones.

btw - I love Finland - I've been there a couple of times in the summer and even got to see the never darkening sky (was south of the arctic circle by 50 miles so the sun did set for half an hour). Lovely country and lovely people.
 
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Bistabuster said:
Most people in the United States think that Islam is a peaceful community. Why? Because our Government says so. Our main news outlets says so. Even our President says so. After all, their god is the same god as the Christian God. Right? I, with a few other people here in this forum have been trying to say that Islam is indeed our enemy that is controlled by Satan. Read Rev 13 and apply the beast to Islam and the dragon to Satan after you read all the laws posted in this link. So, let's look at the by-laws you, as a Christian, must live under if you were to change residence and live in a Islamic country. Rights of Non-Muslims in an Islamic State

When you get done with that, this link is for all you Christians who do not know what Islam is. This link contains the nuts and bolts to true Islam. True History of Islam, Mohammed and the Koran
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wow..whowoulda thought theocratic states would have harsh religious penalties for real?
 
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xuanvuive2013 said:
ISLAM is not our enemy .

[video=youtube;yEdCXRGJuM8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEdCXRGJuM8[/video]
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this is odd,,,i watched both from your source and,,goggled it and watched it again,,,,,,,,,,,,at the very end,,,,,,,pause it,,,,,,,,,,,"notice the shield of Solomon,,,, from the flag of the nation of Israel",,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
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this is odd,,,i watched both from your source and,,goggled it and watched it again,,,,,,,,,,,,at the very end,,,,,,,pause it,,,,,,,,,,,"notice the shield of Solomon,,,, from the flag of the nation of Israel",,,,,,,,,,,,,
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was there supposed to be a point to this video?
 
damombomb

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I do not think they are peaceful. They blow up their own children, men prefer men according to a friend of ours son
who faught over there. Bin Laden was a good example of how they hate America. Do they believe in Christ Jesus as
the savior? They believe in a false prophet. Do they need our prayer? Yes
 
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xuanvuive2013 said:
Stephen Schwartz: Islamic Sufism and Jewish Kabbalah: Shining a Light on Their Hidden History

Islamic Sufism is a peaceful religion.
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So, do you think those links describe Islam correctly or is it considered out of line? I see it as truthful. What would happen if you build up churches and are allowed to freely hand out tracts about Jesus being the Son of God in the streets of the Middle East without any limitations? Islam would die off. That's what will happen. Therefore, it is vital to destroy any and all people who hold this truth as to keep it away from the Islamic people. In order to keep Islam alive, you must remove the truth. That truth is the Christians!:eek:
 
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