Apologetics

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Yeraza_Bats

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debate is waste of time. If you can debate someone into believing something you can debate them out of it. People with agendas will come up with all kinds of bizarre explanations to defend their point to the point where their explanations sound more crazy than the point they are debating against.
There are people who have come to the Lord merely because of someones argument. Their knowledge of the word of God touched their heart and helped them call out to Him, changing their lives forever. I do believe that its a very awesome and important work : p
 

Angela53510

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Apologetics is very important. There are different schools of thought on apologetics.

Five Views on Apologetics is probably a good foundational book to read to understand the differences in apologetics.

For instance, the people who are saying "The Bible and the Bible only!" are either pre-suppositionalists or Reformed Epistemologists. There are three other main schools of apologetics. I would highly recommend you start with a book like this, which has Stephen B. Cowan and Stanley N Gundry as editors, and published by Zondervan.

Reasonable Faith, by William Lane Craig, and a bunch of other books by him are quite helpful.

Is God just a Human Invention: and Seventeen Other Questions Raised by the New Atheists Edited by Sean McDowell and Jonathan Morrow is a great book to learn to defend Christianty to atheist.

To Everyone An Answer: A Case for the Christian Worldview, edited by Francis Beckwith, William Lane Craig and J P Moreland has a bunch of good essays on many topics on apologetics.

One final book that I have not read, but was recommended to me is Why Good Arguments Often Fail, by James W. Sire.

I have some other books, Seminary and doctoral level, if you are interested I can also post the names. I use them for reference, they are a hard read!

I think it is wonderful you are interested in pursuing apologetics, and if there is anything I can do to help, let me know.
 
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I'm thinking about possibly going to college for Apologetics. I know there's a lot of work to be done before that but can anyone suggest any good courses or reading material?
A good starting point -- Foundations of the Christian Faith.

(And, actually, there isn't a lot of work to be done before. Profs tend to like to fill empty vessels, not fill a vessel that already thinks its full. They're going to start from scratch, so what you really need is a good foundation, so you know if they're filling you with truth or opinion.)
 
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There is only one book you need to study and that is God's Word.
If you want to defend what is right or wrong it is the only source.[/QUOTE
True but people like the New Atheists will question everything in the Bible and aren't satisfied with the word. So you have to talk in their language and defend it. Some people just need it spelled out for them.
There are no new atheists. They're the same ole, same ole who simply think they're new. :)
 

Aqua11

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Total Truth by Nancy Pearcey might help.
 
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Well one question im anticipating and I use to ask this question myself but how does one from a biblical stand point explain fossils and fossil records. I know the answer is the devil can do many things to deceive you, but that answers likely to get me laughed at. Unless you know a better argument and I'm sure there is one on the case.
Red herring. Whenever someone talks about fossils, what they're really doing is pretend they're talking about God while avoiding God all together. You can spend months and months dealing with evolution and never get around how that pertains to God. It's a trick.
 
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You can only defend the Word with the Word.
If you use anything else they will eat you alive.
Says the guy who has spent decades learning the word from sermons, Bible studies with others, books, and whatever anyone ever taught you too, including "You can only defend the Word with the Word." :)

(That boat sailed even before we knew it was a boat that sails. lol)
 
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Ravi Zacharias and his itinerant speakers are good.

C.S Lewis literature, of course.

Maybe debates? If that sort of thing interests you. William Lane Craig is a known Christian apologist and debater. Frank Turek is another name that comes to mind.
C.S. Lewis was a great writer and a great inspirerer, but he was no apologist.
 

Monnkai

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Apologetics is very important. There are different schools of thought on apologetics.

Five Views on Apologetics is probably a good foundational book to read to understand the differences in apologetics.

For instance, the people who are saying "The Bible and the Bible only!" are either pre-suppositionalists or Reformed Epistemologists. There are three other main schools of apologetics. I would highly recommend you start with a book like this, which has Stephen B. Cowan and Stanley N Gundry as editors, and published by Zondervan.

Reasonable Faith, by William Lane Craig, and a bunch of other books by him are quite helpful.

Is God just a Human Invention: and Seventeen Other Questions Raised by the New Atheists Edited by Sean McDowell and Jonathan Morrow is a great book to learn to defend Christianty to atheist.

To Everyone An Answer: A Case for the Christian Worldview, edited by Francis Beckwith, William Lane Craig and J P Moreland has a bunch of good essays on many topics on apologetics.

One final book that I have not read, but was recommended to me is Why Good Arguments Often Fail, by James W. Sire.

I have some other books, Seminary and doctoral level, if you are interested I can also post the names. I use them for reference, they are a hard read!

I think it is wonderful you are interested in pursuing apologetics, and if there is anything I can do to help, let me know.
I actually viewed a website for Apologists this morning and some of the books they listed you also did. Right now I'm thinking "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist" is a good start I hear good things about it. I really should read up on my bible before I do anything else, though.
Is God just a Human Invention: and Seventeen Other Questions Raised by the New Atheists sounds like a good one. If I'm to talk about Jesus I'll need to be able to defend him. Honestly, I detest confrontation but I feel God is calling me to do this. I also would like to start writing my books again, fantasy with Christian values, kind of stuff. I also have the Book the Four Loves by C.S. Lewis I need to read. I got a lot of reading to do lol
 
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There are people who have come to the Lord merely because of someones argument. Their knowledge of the word of God touched their heart and helped them call out to Him, changing their lives forever. I do believe that its a very awesome and important work : p
My husband, most of our friends, and half our elders in our denomination became believers by trying to debate a Christian out of his or her beliefs. lol
 

Angela53510

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I do agree that when apologists debate atheists, it is often the audience that becomes convinced. The University of Alberta Student's Union sponsored William Lane Craig and Richard Dawkins. The seats were sold out months in advance!

They polled people coming out of the debate, and the majority agree that not only had Craig won the debate hands down, but they were going to look into Christianity.

But that is part of the purpose of apologetics. To draw people to Christ! I believe God wants us to use every avenue to let the gospel be heard, and open up the doors for the Holy Spirit to do the work he is planning to do!
 

Monnkai

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I do agree that when apologists debate atheists, it is often the audience that becomes convinced. The University of Alberta Student's Union sponsored William Lane Craig and Richard Dawkins. The seats were sold out months in advance!

They polled people coming out of the debate, and the majority agree that not only had Craig won the debate hands down, but they were going to look into Christianity.

But that is part of the purpose of apologetics. To draw people to Christ! I believe God wants us to use every avenue to let the gospel be heard, and open up the doors for the Holy Spirit to do the work he is planning to do!
I agree. It really is all about Christ. I really can't say I know anything yet I got the basics but if you asked me to name the twelve apostles I probably couldn't do it without some help. I got a ways to go yet.
 
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​Ravi zacharis
 

nogard

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I'm thinking about possibly going to college for Apologetics. I know there's a lot of work to be done before that but can anyone suggest any good courses or reading material?
May I ask what kind of job you are looking to get with a degree in apologetics? I understand that simply having a degree in anything will look good on a resume, but I'm curious as to what job you see yourself working at after college. I only ask because many of my high school friends (I went to a private Christian school) ended up going to Christian universities and majoring in things like Biblical studies, Christian studies, etc. None of them currently have jobs that have anything to do with their major. Now, several of them do have decent paying and promising jobs right now, so I'm not saying anything negative about their decision. I'm just curious what your expectations are going into this.

Likewise, I feel obliged to give you a warning. Dabbling deeply in the field of apologetics is like playing with fire. There is great potential to grow in the faith by diving so deeply into it, but there is also the potential to get burned. People have lost their faith after delving deeply in this subject. So if you want to ensure the constant testing won't turn into irreversible doubt, the safest thing you can do is not surround yourself with constant arguments and reasonings against Christianity.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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Someone here told me the other day that debating is less effective for the debaters but highly effectual for the onlookers. I would tend to agree.
I second that.
 

Monnkai

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May I ask what kind of job you are looking to get with a degree in apologetics? I understand that simply having a degree in anything will look good on a resume, but I'm curious as to what job you see yourself working at after college. I only ask because many of my high school friends (I went to a private Christian school) ended up going to Christian universities and majoring in things like Biblical studies, Christian studies, etc. None of them currently have jobs that have anything to do with their major. Now, several of them do have decent paying and promising jobs right now, so I'm not saying anything negative about their decision. I'm just curious what your expectations are going into this.

Likewise, I feel obliged to give you a warning. Dabbling deeply in the field of apologetics is like playing with fire. There is great potential to grow in the faith by diving so deeply into it, but there is also the potential to get burned. People have lost their faith after delving deeply in this subject. So if you want to ensure the constant testing won't turn into irreversible doubt, the safest thing you can do is not surround yourself with constant arguments and reasonings against Christianity.
I actually plan on being a writer. Thats a big IF though. I'm going to self-publish one of my books next month and see where it goes. I don't plan on getting into too many debates. Although I understand that's the point of Apologetic's. I just want to be able to defend my faith and turn people to Jesus.
 

nogard

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I actually plan on being a writer. Thats a big IF though. I'm going to self-publish one of my books next month and see where it goes. I don't plan on getting into too many debates. Although I understand that's the point of Apologetic's. I just want to be able to defend my faith and turn people to Jesus.
Ah, ok. Books are a competitive industry and tough to break through in. I wish you the best of luck and remember to be patient. Things don't happen overnight with book writing or book publishing. Also, make sure to take as many English classes as you can there.
 

crossnote

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I'm thinking about possibly going to college for Apologetics. I know there's a lot of work to be done before that but can anyone suggest any good courses or reading material?
Evidential or Presuppositional apologetics? :cool:
 

fredoheaven

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David Wood is actually the whole reason became interested in it. Thanks :)
Glad to hear that! Am I correct if you are referring to Evangelist David Wood or the David Wood Ministries? if him, I already personally heard him preach.:)

God bless