Are catholics Christian?

[RedTent]

OP

Study Church history since the time of Christ and you will find your answer. Yes, Catholics are Christians, and were so 1500 years before Protestants. The Catholic Church is the original Christian church, founded by our Lord Jesus Christ himself ("You are Peter [Rock] and upon this rock I will build my church"). Protestantism was born out of Roman Catholicism in the 1500's when a disenfranchised Catholic Priest named Martin Luther protested some corrupt practices of local clergy. This action escalated into what we see today,, 30,000+ separate denominations all teaching different stuff. Not at all what our Lord intended when he prayed to the Father that we would all be one.
Yes, Catholics are Christian. Extremely Christian. The first Christians.

I like that you recommend studying history! I think we all should, and concentrate on the first 500 years of the development of our church. It would curl your hair!

It was decided early on that the only thing Jewish that would remain was Christ, He was allowed. It got to be a crime to have anything to do with the Jews. They let the Holy Spirit stay, thank our Lord. A lot of the Old Testament has had to go based on tossing the Jewish things out.

You can find a summary of church councils for a thousand years at least, I read them all. One thing good about it, they didn't believe in denying Christ as the Jews did.

They got rid of every holiday God gave us to show us His plan of redemption for us and Christianized pagan holidays. They even got rid of the Sabbath to replace it with the day for worshipping the sun, Sunday. They Christianized that by saying God rose that day. Bible doesn't say He did. It says they found out he had arisen that day, but the bible doesn't say when Christ rose.

 

[Xethea]

Well, Catholics may have been different over time. For now, i see them doing a few things that arent by the bible anymore but was before Jesus came, but they still do it when it is not needed. Mostly, I wouldn't follow them with how high and special they think of Mary. She should be thought of just as anyone else that was born as a sinner.

 

[jimmydiggs]

There are many versions of catholics now, like couples for Christ, singles for Christ, but are they really Christians of the bible?

Catholicism is an organization of Pagans insisting on going to church and acting like Christians.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

yes roman catholics can be saved christians...though i believe that denomination teaches a lot of error...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

OP

Study Church history since the time of Christ and you will find your answer. Yes, Catholics are Christians, and were so 1500 years before Protestants. The Catholic Church is the original Christian church, founded by our Lord Jesus Christ himself ("You are Peter [Rock] and upon this rock I will build my church"). Protestantism was born out of Roman Catholicism in the 1500's when a disenfranchised Catholic Priest named Martin Luther protested some corrupt practices of local clergy. This action escalated into what we see today,, 30,000+ separate denominations all teaching different stuff. Not at all what our Lord intended when he prayed to the Father that we would all be one.
Yes, Catholics are Christian. Extremely Christian. The first Christians.

actually if you study church history you will find that your post was completely -wrong-

the roman catholic church's claim of being the original christian church is not supported by any legitimate historical arguments...they can't even prove a single one of their lines of 'apostolic succession'...

but most roman catholics don't know church history...if they did they would stop being roman catholic...

 

[directline2iam]

I was a Catholic for 33 years before being saved by grace and come from a long line of Catholics, at least 5 generations that I can trace back. Now I'm a friend of God anointed with His holy spirit and it tells me what God would have me do and guides me, I need no man, tradition of my dad's, or a house built with the hands of men to justify my faith, or teach me anything when it comes to God, but Looking back, I'd definitely say I was a Christian then as I believed in Christ as all Catholics do. I think the majority of Catholics are decent people and of course Christians that believe "God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten son Yahoshua (Jesus) Christ to be a propitiation (atoning sacrifice) for their sins." The problem is that the majority of the people in the RCC are way to trustworthy when it comes to listening to these men,following the examples of their dad's, that they are moved into non-biblical teachings, believing everything the RCC tells them even if it's blatantly false. (Pio, stigmata, Mariam worship,bowing and praying below a statue, the rosary, ect.) These things don't help a Christian grow spiritually or edify them, but blinds and hinders them to the open line they have with God the Father and the LORD our God Yahoshua (Jesus) Christ 24/7. When I shared my testimony of grace with the priest at St. Bonaventure in Huntington beach, Ca, thinking in my head they would embrace me and rejoice in God's mercy towards a sinner like me, he told me that being a Catholic and practicing their theology was the only acceptable way with God and them. He didn't care about the miracle of me receiving the free gift of God. I was instantly a enemy and a protestant....lol. If you don't believe me try and tell them you are seeking God and found Him outside of the RCC, then you will become an enemy and protestant as well no matter how pious or devout you are or were. They wanted me to submit to a house and teaching of men and not to my maker. I could never do that, nor would anyone else with my experience do that.
I love all my brothers and sisters Catholic or not but I have learned the history of the RCC and there is no way now that I would ever go back. Those of you that have left already know where I'm coming from. Yes Catholics are Christian but a lot of their teachings are not.

well said

 

[iamsoandso]

strikes me like this,,,in the beginning of the church they were just concerned with being drug out of their house and told to recite the things to idols and deny Christ,,,well then they beat them and burned them alive. ,,,,we seem bored waiting for all of that,,,we have 30,000 or so denominations that claim to all be Christians. i notice we all practice martyrdom, we all take one denomination at a time and see if we can make them deny their faith,,,well one day they will take all the Christians down and cut them and kill their children,they'll break their legs and arms,,,,,soon as we all finish practicing on each other,,(making each other strong?),,,,,,,i guess well all stand side by side and see who comes out the "true church",,,i bet well all need each other then and not be near as far apart,,,,

 

[directline2iam]

The Roman Catholic Churches I've been in and the family I lived with growing up had this to say when I asked about the Rosery: The saints in the book of Revelations says they are before the alter night and day praying how long oh Lord etc.

So we ask (pray to) Mother Mary who is one of them to pray for us now in our hour of need.

But being a protestant I was taught we only pray to the Father in the name of Jesus Christ.

Can you (anyone) explain why RC do this when it isn't what God's Word says?

And why do they continually re baptize them selves when they take holy water out of the bowl when you first walk in. I thought there was only one baptizem in water?

 

[notuptome]

Church don't mean nothing. Jesus means everything. When you boil it down catholics believe that their church is the means to salvation. Jesus said He is the way the truth and the life and that no man comes to the Father but by Him. Catholics talk about grace but catholic grace is received through the seven sacraments. Gods grace is received by faith which comes from hearing Gods word.
There are doubtless Christians in the catholic church despite church teaching. There are doubtless hell bound sinners in your church and mine. All we can do is declare the word of God and trust God to minister in hearts. God will save those who believe and those who reject will receive condemnation. This is the universal plight of man.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[jandian]

To ascertain whether a catholic is a Christian or anyone from any other faith for the matter; we would first need to define what a Christian is. Have fun with that ?

 

[watcher2013]

The God of Old Testament
Exo 32:4 And hereceived them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he hadmade it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, whichbrought thee up out of the land of Egypt.

The God of Israel indeed brought them up out of the land ofEgypt, but making a molten calf and making it their gods as thee one who brought them up out of the land of Egypt is a mistake and have corrupted themselves. And God punished them.

The God of New testament
Act 17:16 Now whilePaul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw thecity wholly given to idolatry.

Act 17:23 For as Ipassed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription,TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I untoyou.
Act 17:24 God thatmade the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven andearth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Act 17:25 Neither isworshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth toall life, and breath, and all things;

Act 17:29 Forasmuchthen as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead islike unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
Act 17:30 And thetimes of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Act 19:26 Moreover yesee and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands:


Knowing that they worship false gods will bring them to repentance, but how would they repent if they consider those made with hands “gods”to whom they give reverence.

Lesson from the Old testament, we may all worship the Godwho made the heaven and Earth, But is he also the God of Israel (the God ofAbraham, Isaac and Jacob) who commanded not to made graven images, not to BOWdown to them nor SERVE THEM.
We may all know Jesus Christ, but is His Father the same God preached by Paul in Athens, in Ephesus and throughout all Asia, that is not made with hands.

In truth, The God Paul knew maybe is not the same god (catholics,hindus, budhist, muslims) know, likewise that the Jesus Paul knew is not the same Jesus they know.

because all those religions worhips things that are madewith hands, (the black stone in mecca (muslims), budha (budhist), cows and manymore for (hindus), catholics (madonna, and many more))
Catholics are not Christian, but a catholic can be a Christianand the first step is REPENT. (for worshipping false gods)

It also means getting out of Catholicism, as Moses said in Exo 32:26 Then Moses stood inthe gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD'S side? let him come untome. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.

Are you on the LORD’S side?

 

[phil36]

To ascertain whether a catholic is a Christian or anyone from any other faith for the matter; we would first need to define what a Christian is. Have fun with that ?

you might aswell ask what is the gospel?

 

[jandian]

you might aswell ask what is the gospel?

Even better, what is the gospel? Because I guarantee you, you will get a plethora of answers to that....

 

[Praus]

There are many versions of catholics now, like couples for Christ, singles for Christ, but are they really Christians of the bible?

Well....

Rom 3:22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

966 “Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death.”

 

[Praus]

I think it's the person's relationship with Jesus. I once needed to go into a Catholic Food Pantry to pick up a couple bags of groceries, I told the women behind the desk, I'm christian too, she replyed " catholic is not christian. So much for that, but how could they be not Christian when they are doing what Jesus said, I was hungry and you feed me. I think many Catholics are Born again believers. I don't like to look at the title but how they live, are they producing spiritual fruits. ​

"The symbol of Tikkun ha-Olam embodies the most distinctively Jewish, as well as the the single most important ethical injunction of the Kabbalah: the command that humanity must restore and redeem a broken and fallen world."

Tikkun

Here in LA Jewish Family Service of Los Angeles has one of the best food banks in the city and they might get insulted if you call them "born-again".

“SOVA” is a Hebrew word that means "eat and be satisfied." Much more than a food pantry, JFS { SOVA provides free groceries and an array of supportive services to over 12,000 individuals of all ages, ethnicities and religions each month.

SOVA - Home - Jewish Family Service of Los Angeles

 

[jandian]

Catechism of the Catholic Church

966 “Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death.”[/QUOTE]


HUH?!

 

[Praus]

OP

Study Church history since the time of Christ and you will find your answer. Yes, Catholics are Christians, and were so 1500 years before Protestants. The Catholic Church is the original Christian church, founded by our Lord Jesus Christ himself ("You are Peter [Rock] and upon this rock I will build my church"). Protestantism was born out of Roman Catholicism in the 1500's when a disenfranchised Catholic Priest named Martin Luther protested some corrupt practices of local clergy. This action escalated into what we see today,, 30,000+ separate denominations all teaching different stuff. Not at all what our Lord intended when he prayed to the Father that we would all be one.
Yes, Catholics are Christian. Extremely Christian. The first Christians.

That's unscriptural, Antioch was Syrian not Italian. Today it's Turkish, which is also not Italian.

Acts 11:26 and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a great many people. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians. (ESV)

 

[Praus]

Catechism of the Catholic Church

966 “Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death.”

HUH?![/QUOTE]

It's like so:

Gal 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

 

[jandian]

HUH?!

It's like so:

Gal 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.[/QUOTE]

Amen

 

[Ronin]

Theology of the Christian Church was came from Catholic Theologians, and their ideas are still taught in Protestant seminary. The bible as compiled was done so by and translated by Catholic Scribes....(for those of you that ask about biblical Christians)...indeed. I have for years read foolish people opine very ignorant to downright hate filled statements on these threads, and I am for one sick of it. If the Catholic Church is not a Christian Church then the Bible and the Gospels have no worth, because they were compiled by people that some people here claim that they were not Christian. The church was alive before the scripture was put to paper. Even Martin Luther said if all you have is scripture you have nothing. I am sick and tired of people ripping down people of one faith or another. When they come for Christians in the last days ALL OF US WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS will be grouped into one category. And to answer your question YES CATHOLICS ARE CHRISTIANS!!!!!!!!! We believe in ONE GOD the father the almighty the maker of heaven and earth...WE BELIEVE IN ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY SON OF GOD...WE BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT who through the Father and the Son is worshiped and Glorified. That is what most everyone here believes, I hear people talking about what Catholics do...if a Catholic gives you food when you are hungry, something to drink when you are trusty, when you are sick they heal you when you need clothes they clothe you and when you are in prison they come to visit you, When they do on to the least of his Children.....then they are CHRISTIANS doing as Christ asked of them. They Love our Savior Jesus Christ and they proclaim it every single time they worship..If that isn't a Christian well let our Father in Heaven and Our Lord Jesus be their judge...I dropped my stone years ago....anyone of you out there without sin?