Are native american the lost tribes?

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Spokenpassage

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I was reading up on things saying that the native american are the lost tribes of israel, some say they found genetics linking to the jewish people. Whay i find remarkable is the indigenous people of japan, called the ainu. They are actually cacaisian white, yet they are japan's indigenous people from when the first settlers which were the exiled chinese came over and took the land we call japan. Could Ainu be jews or what about native?
 

Markum1972

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I was reading up on things saying that the native american are the lost tribes of israel, some say they found genetics linking to the jewish people. Whay i find remarkable is the indigenous people of japan, called the ainu. They are actually cacaisian white, yet they are japan's indigenous people from when the first settlers which were the exiled chinese came over and took the land we call japan. Could Ainu be jews or what about native?
To begin to answer your question, you must first understand what it means to be a Jew; Judaish; the tribe of Judah. Search the scriptures on this.

What you will discover is that the tribe of Judah (Jews) is only one of the 12 tribes of Israel which was separated from the rest of the tribes because of Solomon. God said that He would only keep the tribe of Judah because of David. According to scripture, Jesus was a descendent of David and thus the tribe of Judah (a Jew).

You will notice that starting after Solomon's reign (about 3,185 years after Adam), there was a king over Israel (10 tribes) and a king over Judah (1 tribe). I am still searching the scriptures to find out what happened to the other tribe as that only adds up to 11.

This continues for quite some time until Israel is again divided in half and two kings rule over each half.

Later God says that He will scatter Israel among the nations. That is where we are today. The Jews (tribe of Judah) is the only tribe that still remains in the land called Israel. I find this quite interesting since out of Judah (King David and Solomon) was also the establishment of the temple that was located on Mount Zion in Jerusalem.

This is what I have learned so far. As far as I can see, only one tribe (the tribe of Judah, aka Jews) can be located with certainty today.

I also have an excel spreadsheet database that I built during this study that shows most (if not all) notable events that were timestamped in scripture from the time of Adam until 3,277 years after Adam. It includes each scripture reference that shows the time between each event. If you would like a copy of this, you can message me with an e-mail address and I will send you a copy of it.

It wasn't until this study that I understood this by searching the scriptures. I was always told that the Jews were Israel. They are a part of Israel, but only 1 tribe of 12. This was extremely important because in Revelations it talks about the 144,000 having 12,000 of each of the tribes of Israel. That would mean that 12,000 were Jews. Before I understood this, I thought all 144,000 were Jews cause that it was I was taught (obviously by someone that never studied this before).

It is very possible that Asia (or a fragment of it) is the result of one of other tribes that was scattered. I recommend reading the characteristics of the other tribes mentioned.

An important thing to note. According to scripture, Israel is now those that believe on Christ Jesus. So despite your genealogy/nationality, if you are not a believer in Christ Jesus, you do not inherit the promises that were given to Abraham.

So this raises the question then. What is the nature of the 12 different tribes that make up Israel today? I am currently studying this and so far I am leaning towards this. Tribe of Judah (those of Jewish descent that have received Jesus as Messiah); the other 11 are other nationalities. Because I know that there are no men that are condemned. I believe that all of the people of the entire earth are comprised of 12 different nationalities according to God (with a variety of sub nationalities in each). I also believe that this traces back to the 12 sons of Jacob. Judah's (one of the 12 sons) descendents being the tribe of Judah which are today called Jews.
However, I am not convinced at this point that the tribes have anything to do with genealogy. It seems to make more sense that you are adopted in to one of the tribes when you become a "new creature" in Christ Jesus. As you can see, although I have been studying this off and on for months, I have a lot of unanswered questions yet.
 

Elizabeth619

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According to some the Cherokee Indian is part of the lost tribes. The History channel interviews a few ppl in my town about it a few years back.
Considering we are ALL ONE in Christ it is rather irrelevant.
 
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I was reading up on things saying that the native american are the lost tribes of israel, some say they found genetics linking to the jewish people. Whay i find remarkable is the indigenous people of japan, called the ainu. They are actually cacaisian white, yet they are japan's indigenous people from when the first settlers which were the exiled chinese came over and took the land we call japan. Could Ainu be jews or what about native?
Indeed the Native Americans are the lost tribes, I refuse to keep truth hidden from those that seek it. For that is what Satan wants. The Native Americans are one of the ten tribes that fled the captivity of Salmanasar King of Assyria and fled, into a land never dwelt by mankind (America aka Asareth). God promised to the Jews, that the curses will pursue them will never they flee, no one can hide from the judgement of God. Also the Native Americans were also in Egypt as slaves, that is why they brought the wicked practices of the Egyptians with them and built pyramids, and only angered God more. So God summoned the sons of Esau to go and conquer them, slaying them mercilessly and there was no mercy shown to the young or old. They were mostly the tribes of Ephraim, Ruben, and Manasseh. God then sent the sons of Esau to go after Judah, which fled Roman persecution and they took refuge in many parts of Africa but mainly in west Africa. Judah was then brought to America is prophesied in Deuteronomy 28:68 in slave ships.
 
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But all nations can be saved, but I am just saying who the lost tribes are.
 
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kenisyes

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Once you accept that neither Columbus nor Leif Erickson discovered America, you can accept the evidence that this continent has been a revolving door for Mediterraneans since before the flood. (There's Egyptian hieroglyphics in the copper mines in Michigan and Wisconsin and literally tons of copper missing, for example.) I think most of the evidence is due to travelers, though. I do not think that there are any lost tribes here. At best, members of the lost tribes intermarried natives centuries ago.

For example, ships in those days were not big enough to transport a tribe, just members of a tribe.
 

Elizabeth619

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Once you accept that neither Columbus nor Leif Erickson discovered America, you can accept the evidence that this continent has been a revolving door for Mediterraneans since before the flood. (There's Egyptian hieroglyphics in the copper mines in Michigan and Wisconsin and literally tons of copper missing, for example.) I think most of the evidence is due to travelers, though. I do not think that there are any lost tribes here. At best, members of the lost tribes intermarried natives centuries ago.

For example, ships in those days were not big enough to transport a tribe, just members of a tribe.
Although I do not recommend anyone watch The History channel for factual information there was a documentary a few years back on there. "Who Really Discovered America". It was a pretty good watch. It discussed the native americans, and possible lost tribes. I will try to find a clip on it.
 

Elizabeth619

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"Sitting Owl" in this clip I actually know personally. The History Channel came to my town a few years back and interviewed him on our town square. The other people are actually local people I know as well.

Sitting Owl did have DNA testing done to confirm a link to the lost tribes. This video says there is no link. Sitting Owl had openly displayed the DNA results in the local Cherokee Museum(which has now closed) that said otherwise. I saw the results. I don't know if it was the original DNA results, but the ones he displayed in the museum says exactly the opposite of what the video says.

Cherokee DNA from History Channel.wmv - YouTube
 
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kenisyes

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How are they certain that they could identify lost tribe DNA anyway? Presumably, they look for a Jewish marker. I don't understand this completely, but couldn't intermarriage over centuries have wiped out any specific marker from some the eventual offspring? That is how it was taught when I was in school.
 

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I will live by faith in the Messiah Yahshua whom Heavenly Father sent to redeem and reconcile us.

The Messiah said :

John 3

Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
staking a claim through flesh will be to no avail...
 

tribesman

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I was reading up on things saying that the native american are the lost tribes of israel, some say they found genetics linking to the jewish people. Whay i find remarkable is the indigenous people of japan, called the ainu. They are actually cacaisian white, yet they are japan's indigenous people from when the first settlers which were the exiled chinese came over and took the land we call japan. Could Ainu be jews or what about native?
Ainu are white/caucasian? Really? They maybe once were, they are not white now. And as for your question Are native american the lost tribes?
 
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Laodicea

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There are no lost tribes of Israel. Not according to the Bible.
 
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psychomom

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That native Americans are the lost tribe is an LDS belief...

 
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Laodicea

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Ezra 2:70 KJV
(70) So the priests, and the Levites, and some of the people, and the singers, and the porters, and the Nethinims, dwelt in their cities, and all Israel in their cities.
Ezra 3:1 KJV
(1) And when the seventh month was come, and the children of Israel were in the cities, the people gathered themselves together as one man to Jerusalem.
Ezra 4:3 KJV
(3) But Zerubbabel, and Jeshua, and the rest of the chief of the fathers of Israel, said unto them, Ye have nothing to do with us to build an house unto our God; but we ourselves together will build unto the LORD God of Israel, as king Cyrus the king of Persia hath commanded us.
Ezra 6:17 KJV
(17) And offered at the dedication of this house of God an hundred bullocks, two hundred rams, four hundred lambs; and for a sin offering for all Israel, twelve he goats, according to the number of the tribes of Israel.


This is after the captivity and we see the writer says all Israel not just Judah. Also we see all tribes present.
 
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kenisyes

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That native Americans are the lost tribe is an LDS belief...

This is true, and is based on evidence of specific tribes in specific places, long since discredited [the golden tablets, the angel Moroni (plural of moron?)]. But much other evidence exists, and some is quoted in the second link I gave. A definitive and quite popular book was written in the 1750's by a British officer stationed in the American colonies that likely inspired Joseph Smith to his outrageous claims.
 
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psychomom

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This is true, and is based on evidence of specific tribes in specific places, long since discredited [the golden tablets, the angel Moroni (plural of moron?)]. But much other evidence exists, and some is quoted in the second link I gave. A definitive and quite popular book was written in the 1750's by a British officer stationed in the American colonies that likely inspired Joseph Smith to his outrageous claims.
Ken, I actually laughed out loud at that. :)
Scared some birds away doing it, too.
(but they're back, eating up a storm at the feeeders) ♥

Thanks for that. I may use it in the future, with your permission. :)
 
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kenisyes

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If the like does not answer your question, Psychomom, yes, you have my permission. Praise God for all the birds He sends you to brighten your day.
 
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The lost tribes assimilated into the peoples and lands they were driven to.
The native Americans came across the Bering strait , that's why they resemble mongols so strongly.
See the people of far north east Russia and Mongolia and compare their features to American Indians.
Quite a close resemblance.
 
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If you have found them, please let us know where. This is a serious archeologial question.

A summary of the case: Ten Lost Tribes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Source material that needs to be explained relative to the OP: LOSTTRIBES.INFO
The lost tribes of Israel are also native Americans, but also the Israelites that came into America on slave ships and were oppressed along with the Natives. God gave Israel a severe punishment, but now the end of their captivity will come. Israel will no longer see death nor will they any longer hear the hiss of the nations.