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Then you believe all men are saved?
John 6:37
English Standard Version (ESV)
37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
It 'says that all those the father gives, will come to him, and that he will never cast them out.
To the topic:
I am not a dispensationalist, and am very wary of dispensationalism.
John 6:37
English Standard Version (ESV)
37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
It 'says that all those the father gives, will come to him, and that he will never cast them out.
To the topic:
I am not a dispensationalist, and am very wary of dispensationalism.
No. I believe that all those who are in God's covenant of promise will be saved.
Salvation is by (unmerited) grace through faith. Faith is the instrument whereby the pardoned receives salvation. Faith is not conditional, all conditions for salvation of man are fulfilled in the person and work of Christ alone. The work of Christ was primarily a work for acceptance by God, not man. It is by this work alone that sinners are "accepted in the beloved" (Eph.1:6).
Yes. But repentance is not a work. It is a gift from God to His people (Acts 5:31) and it is displayed by the fruit of regeneration (including the rejection of heresies and false gospels, where salvation is conditioned on the sinner). The prior repentance is repentance to the gospel which means goodbye for good to trust any part of self any more. As for unregenerate man, God does not expect any repentance from him since this is impossible.
Salvation is by (unmerited) grace through faith. Faith is the instrument whereby the pardoned receives salvation. Faith is not conditional, all conditions for salvation of man are fulfilled in the person and work of Christ alone. The work of Christ was primarily a work for acceptance by God, not man. It is by this work alone that sinners are "accepted in the beloved" (Eph.1:6).
Yes. But repentance is not a work. It is a gift from God to His people (Acts 5:31) and it is displayed by the fruit of regeneration (including the rejection of heresies and false gospels, where salvation is conditioned on the sinner). The prior repentance is repentance to the gospel which means goodbye for good to trust any part of self any more. As for unregenerate man, God does not expect any repentance from him since this is impossible.
Sometimes I tell people who say we have to ask Jesus to come into our hearts that Jesus is my Lord and that I believe with all my heart that He rose again from the dead but that I don't want to say a sinner's prayer to ask Him to come into my heart. I also tell them that I believe that Jesus is the Son of God so I don't have to ask Him to come into my heart as He is already there.
They then act like I have rejected the gospel even though I had just confessed my faith to them and that everything I just stated is in the Bible while asking Jesus to come into our hearts in nowhere to found anywhere in the Bible
Where is what I just stated at in the Bible?
Romans 10:9-10
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
1 John 4:15
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
If there is anyone out there who does believe we have to ask Jesus to come into our hearts, show us where it is at
They then act like I have rejected the gospel even though I had just confessed my faith to them and that everything I just stated is in the Bible while asking Jesus to come into our hearts in nowhere to found anywhere in the Bible
Where is what I just stated at in the Bible?
Romans 10:9-10
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
1 John 4:15
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
If there is anyone out there who does believe we have to ask Jesus to come into our hearts, show us where it is at
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I agree this has become cultural christian lingo. However, I do believe that it is a phenomenal approach to prayer as it incorporates the mystery of the Son's atonement for our sins and the Holy Spirit's residence within us.
Two things...one is that we cannot believe on our own. I truly believe that. If we could, Jesus wouldn't have died on the cross. Every forgets that satan wanted to sift Peter like wheat, but Jesus stopped him. Judas, not so much. So why did Peter get to believe...because the Lord Jesus Christ enabled him to.
Two verses come in Colossians come to mind. 3:15-16
"15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord." Both verses use "let" which indicates our allowance. Are we about the everywhere access Jesus, or are there some parts of us we try to hide from Him? But I really like that TV show....
Jesus is alive. Believing Him and asking Him to dwell and reside and change us inside may be two different things....I don't know. I'm not advocating that "prayer" as a salvation act; however, I do I think it is a powerful daily approach to following the Lord...not missing the mark.
Two things...one is that we cannot believe on our own. I truly believe that. If we could, Jesus wouldn't have died on the cross. Every forgets that satan wanted to sift Peter like wheat, but Jesus stopped him. Judas, not so much. So why did Peter get to believe...because the Lord Jesus Christ enabled him to.
Two verses come in Colossians come to mind. 3:15-16
"15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord." Both verses use "let" which indicates our allowance. Are we about the everywhere access Jesus, or are there some parts of us we try to hide from Him? But I really like that TV show....
Jesus is alive. Believing Him and asking Him to dwell and reside and change us inside may be two different things....I don't know. I'm not advocating that "prayer" as a salvation act; however, I do I think it is a powerful daily approach to following the Lord...not missing the mark.
But why do some people ignoire that I just confessed my faith to them if I say I don't want to ask Him to come into my heart when I tell them that Jesus is my Lord and I believe with all my heart that He died and rose again on the third day, straight out of Romans 10?
As I just confessed with my mouth and i had jsut told them I believe it in my heart. The Bible says to believe it in your heart but it doesn't say to ask Him to come in.
I know people use the passage from Revelation 3 about Jesus standing at the door to justify asking Him to come into their hearts but that scripture is talking about the luke warm church that isn't taking a stand one way or the other, neither hot or cold, it is not talking about people becoming believers.
As I just confessed with my mouth and i had jsut told them I believe it in my heart. The Bible says to believe it in your heart but it doesn't say to ask Him to come in.
I know people use the passage from Revelation 3 about Jesus standing at the door to justify asking Him to come into their hearts but that scripture is talking about the luke warm church that isn't taking a stand one way or the other, neither hot or cold, it is not talking about people becoming believers.
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I've studied the Bible for 30 years and it wasn't until 2 years ago that I learned of Right Division. The Bible opened up in a beautiful alive manner! I cannot wait to wake up each morning to see what God will be showing me through His Word. It's amazing when you begin to understand WHO is writing to WHOM and WHY.
I also am secure in eternal salvation...something I struggled with all my Christian life.
I don't understand why right division is not taught in our churches and why so many people push against it when it is truly amazing!
I also am secure in eternal salvation...something I struggled with all my Christian life.
I don't understand why right division is not taught in our churches and why so many people push against it when it is truly amazing!