Ask a "Messianic/Hebrew Rooter" (AMA)

[Bladerunner]

I'm going out on a limb here, (because I know this belief is not very welcome on CC for some reason) and stating~ I completely believe that Matthew was written in Hebrew, and translated in Greek as best as they could. I have questions. A lot of questions. Because from what I can tell, the Hebrew (if my sources are right), does prove Yeshuah/Jesus to be the Messiah, thru geneology, where the Greek is a bit off...so, do you know anything about that?

Hi Karraster:

Don't mean to burst our bubble but Greek was the language in use at the time of Matthew and he was a scribe (tax collector)
He is the one of the three Luke, Mark that has the most (complete) version.

In that time period, Hebrew was thought of as Latin is today by the Catholic Religion. They only use it in ceremonial function(s).

Yes you are correct that the Geneology of the Messiah can be proven in the Bible. Rem, It was translated from Hebrew some 300 years before Jesus Christ. look to your Geneology of King David. Rem,,,,, Joseph's side of the family was cursed.

Have fun!

 

[Karraster]

Can I jump in here, Karraster? Only because its very interesting--both points.

re: Hebrew composition of Matthew -- a relatively new and intriguing theory. There is evidence pro and con, but it will be decades before acceptance, or even consensus is possible. Similarly, there is a movement to date all four gospels before the 70 AD destruction of Jerusalem. But the weathervane of opinion turns very slowly (maybe for the best) so there will have to be much (interesting) discussion on those points, and perhaps even new discoveries of a valuable manuscript or two. (rumor has it an older copy of Mark has been discovered but not yet published. It was extracted from an Egyptian composite papyrus burial mask, and is supposedly dated well before 70 AD). Of course NONE of this stuff is yet published, so don't believe a word I say about it till it is. And of course ALL of it is EXTREMELY interesting.

Christians should know that Archaeology is very much our friend.

re: Matthew's skipped generations- Yes, there are five. Ahaziah, Athaliah, Joash, Amaziah, and a later king Jehoiakim. Technically Matthew was not giving a "false" account since "father of" can mean "forefather of" but what is intriguing is that he numbers this segment as 14 generations when in fact there are 18 (Athaliah was Ahaziah's mother - a piece of work she was) (actually they all were except Joash -- he was a good king, and Amaziah -- he was OK). No Hebrew would have missed Matthew's omission. Joash ruled for 40 years and was a very beloved king. Omitting him would be like listing all the US Presidents and omitting FDR.

It's amazing how these obvious omissions survived. A Hebrew transcriber (with the books of Kings and Chronicles as ready reference) would have been sorely tempted to "correct" this "mistake". But I think it was not a mistake.

Thank you very much! You make good points. Yes, I want to know more, and will look into what you said about the copy of Mark.

 

[Karraster]

Hi Karraster:

Don't mean to burst our bubble but Greek was the language in use at the time of Matthew and he was a scribe (tax collector)
He is the one of the three Luke, Mark that has the most (complete) version.

In that time period, Hebrew was thought of as Latin is today by the Catholic Religion. They only use it in ceremonial function(s).

Yes you are correct that the Geneology of the Messiah can be proven in the Bible. Rem, It was translated from Hebrew some 300 years before Jesus Christ. look to your Geneology of King David. Rem,,,,, Joseph's side of the family was cursed.

Have fun!

Hey thanks. I believe I read that before but had forgotten.
[FONT=&quot]As I live," declares the LORD, [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"even though Jeconiah the son of Jehoiakim [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]king of Judah were a signet ring on my right [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]hand, yet I would pull you off…[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"Is this man Jeconiah a despised, shattered jar? [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Or is he an undesirable vessel?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Why have he and his descendants been hurled out[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]and cast into a land that they had not known?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"O land, land, land, Hear the word of the LORD!![/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]"Thus says the LORD, 'Write this man [Jeconiah] down childless,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A man who will not prosper in his days;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]For no man of his descendants will prosper[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Sitting on the throne of David, Or ruling again in Judah.'

[/FONT]Yeshua/Jesus had the right to be heir thru his mother, yet was a decendent on both sides, right?

 

[Cee]

One lineage was told his house would inherit and the other was told his seed would.

Mary and Joseph actually snuffed out the lineage because when the cursed line met with the blessed line the only one left was Jesus.

Jesus is not of the lineage of Joseph (the cursed line), but He is of the lineage of Mary (the blessed line). But Jesus is of the house of Joseph (Solomon's line).

Joseph is called the "husband of Mary" not the one who beget Jesus. This is important. Joseph's seed can't be on the throne of David, that means Jesus' brothers (Joseph sons) couldn't have taken up the throne.

This makes the Virgin birth critical.

Luke 3:23-38 - This is Mary's Lineage up to "Nathan" David's son.
Matt 1:1-17 - This is Joseph's Lineage up to "Solomon" David's son.

Here's what's really crazy: Jesus had to come from Solomon's line because of the promises to Solomon. And He had to come from David's line because of the promises to David. But He couldn't have come from Solomon's direct line. The only way this happens is if Jesus is born without an earthly father of Joseph.

Jesus was the legal heir of Solomon, but not the physical heir of Solomon.

Remember in Genesis He shall come from the seed of the woman. Not the seed of the man.

This is the fingerprint of God in the geneology that only He could create. And then after Jesus, the geneologies were mixed which means no one can qualify for the throne after Jesus, just like the temple was destroyed because sacrifices are no longer accepted.




C.

 

[Ariel82]

16 + 4 years = 20....not 19, or is it 3 years?



Also who asks a 16 year old to teach a class on Scriptures?

Who would attend classes taught by a 16 year old who had been attending the church for how many years?

So at 12, you got saved...started reading and studying which is good...

At 15 you left the church of God or the Baptist church that you were raised in and started attending an Assembly of God Church..working the sound booth?

At 16 you were asked by the,pastor to teach a class....

Now at 19 or 20, you are here to teach us poor ignorant masses about Hebrew roots?

Sorry if I want to learn about Jewish customs, I would ask a Jewish person or read the Bible myself and ask God to explain it. God told us that every born again believer has His ear and He is mighty to save.

 

[Demi777]

16 + 4 years = 20....not 19, or is it 3 years?



Also who asks a 16 year old to teach a class on Scriptures?

Who would attend classes taught by a 16 year old who had been attending the church for how many years?

So at 12, you got saved...started reading and studying which is good...

At 15 you left the church of God or the Baptist church that you were raised in and started attending an Assembly of God Church..working the sound booth?

At 16 you were asked by the,pastor to teach a class....

Now at 19 or 20, you are here to teach us poor ignorant masses about Hebrew roots?

Sorry if I want to learn about Jewish customs, I would ask a Jewish person or read the Bible myself.

1 Timothy 4:12
Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.

 

[Ariel82]

the above post, #26, is found VERBATIM

RIGHT HERE

so while the op would seem to want to impress us with all his many many years of study and deep prayer, he just copy/pasted his post

irregardless, the title of the article is Should Gentiles Follow Torah

through manipulation and really really bad exegesis, these folks seek to tell us that Paul did not mean what we think he means

and oh goody...he is here to straighten us all out

......and there you have it, straight from the Torah observant Messianic Judaism

Gentiles cannot and do not become Jewish

I was going to reply there was a flaw in his logic..,.circumcision is in the Torah.so much so that Moses wife cut the foreskin off her children after receiving a vision from God.


There is a big difference between the NEW covenant and the Old that the Hebrew roots movement tries to remove.


But since it's a cut and paste...I just keep reading the thread.

 

[Ariel82]

1 Timothy 4:12
Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.

Our youth have a lot to teach us. However, at 16 would you feel qualified to teach a class on Scriptures?

I know I wouldn't.

Jesus didn't start His earthly ministry until He was 30.

Pointing out the inconsistency of his story and the unlikelyness of its validness, is an observation. If he is telling the truth, then he was attending a church with a pastor that thought a 16 year old was more qualified then him or any other member to teach scriptures....that in itself is telling,

 

[Demi777]

Our youth have a lot to teach us. However, at 16 would you feel qualified to teach a class on Scriptures?

I know I wouldn't.

Jesus didn't start His earthly ministry until He was 30.

Pointing out the inconsistency of his story and the unlikelyness of its validness, is an observation. If he is telling the truth, then he was attending a church with a pastor that thought a 16 year old was more qualified then him or any other member to teach scriptures....that in itself is telling,

Its sad when a 16yr old has to bring scripture to adults that go against what is written. And then the adult questioning scripture, not knowing it is even sadder.

 

[Ariel82]

Let's see! You became a "scholar" at the tender age of 15, now after 4 years of study, you are a teacher and you somehow independently came across the Hebrew Roots heresy all on your own, according to what you say here. As for your personally made curriculum - that is what I was saying! You don't have a clue the basics of Bible interpretation. I figured you wouldn't know Greek well, Hebrew Roots people think it is not important to read the words of Jesus, especially not in the original Greek.

So what lexicon do you use for Hebrew? Which Hebrew Bible are you using? Or do you just use Blue Letter Bible or some other internet site? The thing about Seminary, is that first, it is a graduate degree. That means you have already learned to write, research and study. An undergrad degree teaches you that. You didn't even have a high school diploma when you started reinventing the wheel. Did you ever graduate from high school? I do hope so.

Seminary gives you the tools to study the Bible - it helps you learn about the Bible in depth, the original languages, and then the skills to lead people. I am also a teacher besides being a pastor, and it took me a long time to become a skilled teacher even after training and watching videos of myself to see my weak areas, and being evaluated by extremely good teachers, and given concrete ways to communicate more effectively . So what is your background in teaching, of any sort?

This is not just about your youth, although that is a factor. Your claim to maturity after one year of studying the Bible, on your own, is laughable! Of course, your conclusions also contribute to my personal scorn for your Hebrew Roots nonsense.

But this is the outcome of not getting training from those who have been studying the Bible and serving God in ministry for 30 or 40 years. I heard my preaching pastor preach this morning, and it was the best sermon I have ever heard, not just in terms of his excellent handling of the Scriptures, but in finding a way to cement what he was saying in my heart! And that is that the glory of God and Christ in us is the point of us being members of the Kingdom of God. This pastor/professor/discipler has a Ph.D, served as a missionary overseas for 10 years, started a Bible college for local people to train and learn to carry the gospel to their language to their own people. To say nothing of being an awesome and highly ethical and honest professor! And a mentor for me!

As I said in my last post, you have never studied the very important subjects which are necessary to be able to be a scholar, which you claim with such false humility that you are just reporting that OTHERS have said. Well, maybe, but probably not! If you really are 19, or anything else!

In response, I also asked God to show me what the Scriptures meant. I prayed for him to give me a knowledge and understanding of the heart of God. And the answer to that prayer - God called me to Seminary, where he taught me amazing things, and mostly to walk with God, and follow him, as I study to be a worker approved. (Still studying and hope to be for the rest of my life!)

So don't put people down who go to seminary when God calls them. Of course, there are some very bad seminaries out there, with people who do not believe the Bible, or only teach denominational theology. My seminary had students from 10 denominations and no denomination when I went there. The reputation of the school, was that you truly could learn to walk with God and also learn to understand the Bible, as well as go into ministry with the tools to lead people as disciples.

But I guess you, a lone wolf who hears from a different God than the one that I am all my fellow students and graduates heard from; to say nothing of all the people that haven't been to seminary, but have studied the Bible on their own and come to similar conclusions as me; somehow got a heretical insight from God which contradicts the New Testament, which you admit you don't know as much about.

So yes, you are not called from God. You are not mature, but in fact are a young man who has been terribly led astray. (I'm thinking in your study of HRM websites!) I pray God will really show you the truth about HRM and you will understand that you cannot save yourself by keeping the Levitical Laws, just as the Jews could not either. My plea is to read the New Testament over and over! And find all the verses like Acts 15, or all of Hebrews which show us that while God saved the Jews by their faith in the Old Testament (Hebrews 11) we no longer need to keep the Levitical laws because we are still saved by faith today! Not by keeping Jewish rites and rituals!

If he really is a young man and not a troll, your words would be point on.

I would also like to point out that Timothy taught at a young age, having grown up with a faith keeping family and being disciples by Paul....even Paul study in a faith based community for 3 years before he started his ministry. Also Jesus was 30 when He started preaching according to Luke.

From his own words, he admits to not having any good mentors or faith based community, yet out of pride seeks to teach.

 

[Ariel82]

Its sad when a 16yr old has to bring scripture to adults that go against what is written. And then the adult questioning scripture, not knowing it is even sadder.

Almost as sad as a 16 year old who doesn't listen to what has been said, but condescendly thinks that their posted scripture somehow makes void the points brought up.


two major questions....

1) 16 + 4 = 20, not 19
2) Why didn't the pastor teach and mentor the young man who had only attended his church for a year, instead of asking him to teach at age 16?

I love sermons given by our youth. They are full of passion and love of Jesus. Some of our teenagers exhort and bring to life scriptures with their passion and love of Jesus.

My objections is not his youth. It is his story. Is it true?

Is it believable? Is it how God's church is suppose to be?

Your scripture does not answer any of those questions, because he is NOT Timothy. Plus he has already used that verse to justify himself earlier in the thread. So it's not even a new insight.

 

[PennEd]

16 [FONT=&quot]“Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves."


"I'm atheist, ask me anything" "I'm catholic, ask me anything" "I'm muslim, ask me anything" "I'm Hebrew roots, ask me anything".

Wave after after wave of the enemies deceptions come and it should be crystal clear by now that Matthew 24:24 proves that it is NOT possible for the elect to be deceived.

May God bless my brothers and sisters, who trust in Christ ALONE, that turn aside with the Truth of the Gospel, these attacks.

We need to pray for these people, like this wayward young man pushing a works gospel through HRM, that God would open their eyes to the TRUTH of His Son, and the incredible Grace He has given us.[/FONT]

 

[Ariel82]

Awkward? No, That is a website of mine I collaborated with others to make.

Another story I would question the truth concerning.....

Does he now claim to be Ellen Kavanaug or that he somehow helped her write her website?

I will trust the Holy Spirit to guide. I am merely pointing out the inconsistency of his story and the high probability that he is lying about some aspects of his story.

 

[wolfwint]

Brother, respectfully, if you or any other individual truly study Galatians you would see that you are misinterpreting the words of Paul. Causing a Paradox due to your own misunderstandings of Paul. Paul never taught that that the Torah(Law) was only for the Jews. How do I know this? Because if he did he would be liar. The Law was not only for the Tribe of Judah, it was for all 12 Tribes of Israel + those who sojourn among them. The Law is not Jewish. The Law is Holy and Righteous and according to Paul in 1 Timothy is good for teaching and training in righteousness.


Notice these four prohibitions don't forbid murder, theft, adultery, lying, etc... that's further proof these four rules were never intended to replace the Torah. These four prohibitions specifically address offensive pagan practices the new believers will have to resist. Without immediate adoption of these four rules, the Jewish believers would be forced to not take meals or socialize with their Gentile brethren. I'd call these four rules 'Torah-lite,' or a 'crash course' in learning their new lifestyle. By observing these four laws, the Gentiles could associate with their Jewish brethren *without* undergoing any conversion, yet still have reached an adequate beginner level of cleanliness and observance in G-d's eyes. And, of course, Gentiles would learn the rest of Torah each week in the synagogue and their spiritual growth would gradually increase.

Redeamed2015, sorry i had to shorten your quote. Where you have it from that gentiles learned weekly in the synagogue the throah? All Jews ore gentiles which proclaimed Jesus as the messiah had no chance to learn in the synogogue because the jews did not accept Jesus Christ as Messajah. (maby in some it was possible in the beginning)
If you go through the book of acts you find that Paul visited first the jews in their synagogues for to tell about the gospel of Jesus. Till acts 13,46ff
Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing you put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so has the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set you to be a light of the Gentiles, that you should be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. 48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

wThere was no teaching from the gospel in the synagogues! The jews persecutet all who believed in Jesus as Messajah. Their was no acception from gentiles in their synagogues, only for proselytes. And they followed the thorah.
You wrote a lot, but this was not convincing me.
I have nothing to do with the thorah, the law from which Jesus Christ freed me.
If you read gal 2, 9ff you will see that jews and gentiles are different. Jews should not live as gentiles and gentiles should not live as jews.
Gal. 2,9ff
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship; that we should go unto the Gentiles, and they unto the circumcision. 10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was eager to do. 11 But when Peter came to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed. 12 For before certain men came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them who were of the circumcision. 13 And the other Jews joined likewise with him; so that Barnabas also was carried away with their hypocrisy. 14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If you, being a Jew, live after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compel you the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? 15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. 17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. 18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.



All who believe in Jesus Christ are saved through grace. Jews and gentiles! But God the father has different ways and goals with jews and gentiles.

 

[Grace777x70]

1 Timothy 4:12
Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.

That is a true statement however Timothy was most likely between 30 and 40 years old when Paul wrote that statement to him.

Here is a quote from that time in history.

The Greek term for “youth” is neotes. In this culture, someone could be called a “youth” until they were forty years old. According to Irenaeus, “Thirty is the first stage of a young man’s age, and extends to forty, as all will admit.”[1] Earle comments, “The word for ‘youth’ (KJV) is neotēs, ‘used of grown-up military age, extending to the 40th year.’”[2]​


​

Paul picked up Timothy on his second missionary journey (Acts 16:1). 1 Timothy was written fourteen years later. If Timothy was sixteen years old, when Paul first worked with him, he would be at least thirty at this point. Paul probably gave this command, because older men were considered to be wiser than men in their thirties, and he wanted to encourage Timothy to stand up for himself.

[1] Irenaeus II. 22.5. Cited in Stott, John Guard the truth: The message of 1 Timothy & Titus. The Bible Speaks Today. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press. 1996. 35.

 

[Spiritualpixie]

Over the past 3 years I have been in deep study and prayer over the Bible. This began when I was about 15. I had been studying the Bible for 3 years prior, following being saved. Being that the church I was attending was a Church of God I studied Church of God doctrine as well as the Baptist denominational doctrine that I had been raised in. I then was moved by the Spirit to another Church, an Assemblies of God. While there I was a member of Music Ministry as I had experience with Sound Engineering. After a few months as a member I was offered a staff position at 16.

During my 4 years of study I had become what some referred to as "a biblical scholar". Not that I ever initiated the title. However, my studies were more mature than most believers as I studied scripture constantly throughout the day since becoming a Christian. Including Bible Study, Devotion, Theology, Examining Denominational Doctrine, and reading scripture with contextual and historical accuracy. So, at 16 the Pastor approached me and said, "I've been looking to start a class teaching the Old Testament. I have been praying that God would show me who should teach it. And I just received confirmation that you should teach the class."

This seemed perfect as I loved reading and studying the Old Testament. I liked to say that I "Specialized" in the Old Testament and comparing/finding parallels between the OT and the NT. Over my years of Study I was well acquainted with Old Testament story line, characters, as well as Messianic and End Times Prophecy.

So I taught the class for about 2 years. During my first year of studying I matured in the way I taught. Prior to this maturing I taught Bible from a "denominationally" bias point of view. I taught bible topics with the wrong intent; that is with the intent to prove myself right about what I believed(and in turn what I had been taught to believe). I was making the bible mean what I wanted it to mean, regardless of what it was actually saying. When I realized this I made a conscience decision to set aside all predispositional, ideological, and denominational bias and I prayed that The Father would open my eyes and my heart to HIS word, that I would know HIS heart and the Truth of HIS word. And regardless of how the Truth made me feel, I would no longer make the scripture match my life, but that I would make my life match the scripture. And I did. And HE did. And here I am now. When I first did this I had no knowledge of what "Messianic Judaism" or "Hebrew Roots" was. I had already made changes and it wasn't until years later that I realized others had made similar changes and had done so by the thousands. Many with similar stories to my own.

Over the past 4 years I have made dramatic changes to my life in order to match scripture and what God has commanded me to do in HIS word. I accept HIS Truth over my own falsehood. As a result I now keep the Levitical Dietary Instructions, keep the Sabbath, and Keep the Feasts,as well as all other Biblical Commandments by which I am obligated to obey. Why? Because God has commanded HIS people to do so.

In order to understand scripture as it was intended to be received we ALL must strip away the teachings and traditions of men and must accept the teachings and traditions of The Father.

When it comes to God and HIS judgement, there is light and there is darkness. There is no twilight.
There is black and there is white. There is no grey area.
There is right and there is wrong. There is no in between.
What God has declared as Truth is Truth.
What God has declared as righteous is righteous.
What God has declared clean is clean.
What God has declared an abomination is an abomination.
What God calls sin is sin.

Instead of creating a long winded detailed outline of the beliefs I am now opening up a thread to discuss the "Hebrew Roots/Messianic" doctrinal beliefs. So, ask me anything about my beliefs and I will answer honestly and with scripture, appropriately.

My question is... Do you love Our Messiah?

 

[LaurenTM]

That was me. Indeed I did write that.

well yes...I do my homework

but you did not answer if you are also Hebrew Roots

certainly no follower of Christ would observe God as very picky?

God is way more than very picky

God, is HOLY

He did create us in His image, but that image is marred, cracked and our desire to be a god in our own eyes is one of the strongest drives in human nature

God is holy...we, are not and no amount of trying to keep the commandments is going to appease God's wrath

do you know what does actually appease God's wrath?

 

[LaurenTM]

Aw, cut the kid some slack. He was brought up in a Church of God - a kissin' cousin to the HRM. His paradigm was stacked against him to begin with.

Be gentle and faithful to share the simple truths of the Gospel and let God do the rest .

-JGIG

yes...in my peeking into all things rootsy, I did indeed come across the blood ties to Church of God..but it's even more interesting

take a look here

Over the past 3 years I have been in deep study and prayer over the Bible. This began when I was about 15. I had been studying the Bible for 3 years prior, following being saved. Being that the church I was attending was a Church of God I studied Church of God doctrine as well as the Baptist denominational doctrine that I had been raised in. I then was moved by the Spirit to another Church, an Assemblies of God. While there I was a member of Music Ministry as I had experience with Sound Engineering. After a few months as a member I was offered a staff position at 16.

confusing?

I think what we actually have in that op, is someone's idea of accomplishments akin to beating one's chest with an eye to being humble while doing it

but you know...he is just 19...when I was 19, I only had 15 years of being in the same church...go figure

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Interesting. And I strongly agree, we should conform our lives to Scripture, not the other way around.
More people are waking up.
Warning though: some here will try to get you banned, quickly, if you say you are Hebrew Roots.

odd. This person warned the guy to watch it or he would be banned, Then he is banned, and the Hebrew roots guys is till here..lol

Stick to the topic seems to be a good thing to do..

 

[LaurenTM]

16 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves."


"I'm atheist, ask me anything" "I'm catholic, ask me anything" "I'm muslim, ask me anything" "I'm Hebrew roots, ask me anything".

Wave after after wave of the enemies deceptions come and it should be crystal clear by now that Matthew 24:24 proves that it is NOT possible for the elect to be deceived.

May God bless my brothers and sisters, who trust in Christ ALONE, that turn aside with the Truth of the Gospel, these attacks.

We need to pray for these people, like this wayward young man pushing a works gospel through HRM, that God would open their eyes to the TRUTH of His Son, and the incredible Grace He has given us.

they are turning us all into Christian Apologeticists ...not the worst thing IMO LOL!