Baptismal Regeneration of Infants

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Baptismal Regeneration of infants

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Nov 14, 2012
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well, I appreciate your honesty. I will still call my priest Father. 2000 yrs of history backing that up and i think its amusing that some people think they have a right to change it
 
Nov 14, 2012
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Forgot to ask, who authorised Strong?
 
Nov 14, 2012
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You see I was told my religion is a confirmed heresy, but cant find out who confirmed this or to who. I am perplexed as to why the admins and many others proclaim me in heresy, yet have no proof to back up this claim
 
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well, I appreciate your honesty. I will still call my priest Father. 2000 yrs of history backing that up and i think its amusing that some people think they have a right to change it
Brother you do whatever your heart feels best. I don't think Rcc is the antichrist, actually every country Jesus fights against in the bible is from the middle east. Babylon, Assyria, Egypt, Migdol, Aswan, Lybia, so to say that Rome is the seven hills is wrong, those were seven kings, not just hills.

Do I agree with every thing RCC? NO
But neither do I any other denomination as well, they all have highs and lows, I just stick to the word and try and make the best decisions that I can.
There are great hearted poeple on every kind of denomination, each with their own faith and works according to such. This is simply a discussion forum. That's all. God bless man.
 
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Brother you do whatever your heart feels best. I don't think Rcc is the antichrist, actually every country Jesus fights against in the bible is from the middle east. Babylon, Assyria, Egypt, Migdol, Aswan, Lybia, so to say that Rome is the seven hills is wrong, those were seven kings, not just hills.

Do I agree with every thing RCC? NO
But neither do I any other denomination as well, they all have highs and lows, I just stick to the word and try and make the best decisions that I can.
There are great hearted poeple on every kind of denomination, each with their own faith and works according to such. This is simply a discussion forum. That's all. God bless man.
Thanx, We are Christians and thats what should matter
 
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sltaylor

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Thanx, We are Christians and thats what should matter
Absolutely, confess and believe, that's all that's required, everything else will be straightened out in the end once this pale refelction is removed. Then all this will cease, and only faith hope and love remain.
 
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Absolutely, confess and believe, that's all that's required, everything else will be straightened out in the end once this pale refelction is removed. Then all this will cease, and only faith hope and love remain.
Agreed and acknowledged
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Do you run out and get baptised everytime you learn something new in His wordor does Jesus need to come back and die on the cross again every time you judge unrightfully.
what was going through my mind at that time?
Why don't you ask the Spirit He was there.
Just as a child has faith (total dependance) he will. be fed and cleaned the child's spirit also has this same dependence (faith) that God will fed his soul and clean his soul and faith for that next breath of air that God allow him to have.
if you weren't at my baptism you really don't have JACK to say about it but if you don't understand or don't like it tell it to God but don't ever annd i repeat EVER tell me that I'm not baptized into the kingdom of God because the water + the Spirit are a wittness to it and yoou are childish to think otherwise.
sorry to burst your bubble. but if you think some pastor baptised you into the kingdom when you were an infant, because your parents asked him to. Your going to be sad one day when you find out that baptism did nothing to save you, any more than a jewish kid who was circumcised as an infant.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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As I understand it Calvin did not believe in Baptismal regeneration, but rather infant baptism was an entrance into the covenant community.
Those that try to equate infant baptism with circumcision cannot claim infant regeneration.

With Lutheranism, there is no guarantee that the infant 'exercised' faith especially when the infant grows up a scondrel and dies rejecting Christ.
I had my kids baptized, but not for their benefit. but mine, I was making a confession to the church to raise them knowing God.
 
Jul 25, 2013
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I had my kids baptized, but not for their benefit. but mine, I was making a confession to the church to raise them knowing God.
Matt 21:22 ; Mark 11:24
My parents had me baptized for MY benefit not selfishly theirs, and it was done in faith.
Stephen asked IN FAITH not to have the charge of murder held against his murderers
Now how can he ask on behalf of someone else?
According to most posters reasoning, the murderers of Stephen would need to repent them selfs.
And Jesus died on BEHALF of all humanity.
Did you die for your own sins, or did Jesus?
WE ARE TO BE JUST LIKE HIM
SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ABOVE TRUTHS INFANT BAPTISM STANDS
 

p_rehbein

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Matt 21:22 ; Mark 11:24
My parents had me baptized for MY benefit not selfishly theirs, and it was done in faith.
Stephen asked IN FAITH not to have the charge of murder held against his murderers
Now how can he ask on behalf of someone else?
According to most posters reasoning, the murderers of Stephen would need to repent them selfs.
And Jesus died on BEHALF of all humanity.
Did you die for your own sins, or did Jesus?
WE ARE TO BE JUST LIKE HIM
SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ABOVE TRUTHS INFANT BAPTISM STANDS

uh, well, yeah! You seem to be nullifying the very first commandment Jesus preached in the 4th Chapter of Matthew.....


REPENT!

Just saying :)
 

Bookends

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That's my zeal for God.
I was baptized as an infant and as far as me and God are concerned, It stands!
And no man under heaven can change it by their foolish talk.
Do you have any friends or acquaintances of the church you attended who was baptized as an infant, but today complete deny the faith? Or are they all loyal and dedicated Christians?
 
Nov 14, 2012
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Do you have any friends or acquaintances of the church you attended who was baptized as an infant, but today complete deny the faith? Or are they all loyal and dedicated Christians?
Some are, some aren't. What's your point? I'm sure you know some people who are the same way as stated in your question. Again, what's your point?
 
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Do you have any friends or acquaintances of the church you attended who was baptized as an infant, but today complete deny the faith? Or are they all loyal and dedicated Christians?
you probably already know, not one of them is or ever was a loyal or dedicated follower of jesus.

yes, they are called 'christian', like constantine called them >> he and the pope said"you are'christian' or you are dead" ... so everyone became "christian", but none of them followed jesus.

yes, that's how far back the abomination and error of heresy goes, and why it is so totally corrupt and widespread today.
 
Dec 26, 2014
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uh, well, yeah! You seem to be nullifying the very first commandment Jesus preached in the 4th Chapter of Matthew.....


REPENT!

Just saying :)
as per the previous post, constantine repealed jesus WORD, and instituted his own... if someone actually "repents" (biblically), they are executed or excommunicated from the rcc catholic abomination heresy.
 
Dec 26, 2012
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Do you have any friends or acquaintances of the church you attended who was baptized as an infant, but today complete deny the faith? Or are they all loyal and dedicated Christians?
Do you have any friends or acquaintances of the church you attended who was baptized as an ADULT, but today complete deny the faith? Or are they all loyal and dedicated Christians?
 

Bookends

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Do you have any friends or acquaintances of the church you attended who was baptized as an ADULT, but today complete deny the faith? Or are they all loyal and dedicated Christians?
No, not anyone I know of, but I'm almost certain they are out there.

But I'm not claiming water baptism saves.
 
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Do you have any friends or acquaintances of the church you attended who was baptized as an infant, but today complete deny the faith? Or are they all loyal and dedicated Christians?

I'm surprized at you Bookends, you really don't know that only God can read a persons heart.
What a person says and what God sees are no nessesarily the same thing for example the verses containing Jesus saying which one did the will of his father....
Again, Man seeth the outward appearance but the Lord sees the heart.
AND man cannot see an infantss heart EITHER.
What most of you are missing is I and others weren't baptized in Johns baptism, but rather in the name of Jesus ACTS19 and enndowed with the Spirit.
So that should put an end to your foolish talk.
AND HE (A FULL GROWN UNDERSTANDING MAN) said to Jesus ..help me in my unbelief.
How much easier it is for a baby to have faith by the power of the spirit, than for a grown man full of years of sinning.
 

Bookends

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I'm surprized at you Bookends, you really don't know that only God can read a persons heart.
What a person says and what God sees are no nessesarily the same thing for example the verses containing Jesus saying which one did the will of his father....
Again, Man seeth the outward appearance but the Lord sees the heart.
AND man cannot see an infantss heart EITHER.
What most of you are missing is I and others weren't baptized in Johns baptism, but rather in the name of Jesus ACTS19 and enndowed with the Spirit.
So that should put an end to your foolish talk.
AND HE (A FULL GROWN UNDERSTANDING MAN) said to Jesus ..help me in my unbelief.
How much easier it is for a baby to have faith by the power of the spirit, than for a grown man full of years of sinning.
First off, I know man can't read the hearts of men. This isn't about that however, it's about infant baptism. And you take it deeper then that, to unbiblical proportions. Just a refresher about Acts 19, the men were baptized into Jesus Christ, and then the Holy Spirit came upon them. This occurs with every true confession of faith in Christ.

Are you putting yourself up there on par with John the Baptist who leaped in the womb of Elizabeth, upon the hearing of the news of Christ through Elizabeth's ears?