Barack Obama is our leader

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It's a coincidence lol. I dont like Obama but he's FAR from the characteristics of the Anti-Christ. Remember, the Anti-Christ is not supposed to be a blatant blasphemer. He's gonna appear like...the Christ...to confuse people. Obama doesn't even ACT like Jesus. Therefore, it is obvious he is NOT the Anti-Christ.
 

john832

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ya those names are not exactly what meant,I meant to say how his name is found in the bible in Luke 10:18 the words I saw satan fall like lightning from heaven. Lightning in hebrew I believe was baraq and heaven obama. Now I don't believe in coincidences but this seems pretty suspect
So carrying your insight to a conclusion, Barak Obama is really LIGHTNING from HEAVEN?
 

posthuman

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ya those names are not exactly what meant,I meant to say how his name is found in the bible in Luke 10:18 the words I saw satan fall like lightning from heaven. Lightning in hebrew I believe was baraq and heaven obama. Now I don't believe in coincidences but this seems pretty suspect

here's a decent article about that:

Jesus didn’t give name of antichrist

it strikes me as a good rule of thumb that if someone is trying to persuade you to hate - or fear - another human being, they are not speaking for Christ, who teaches us to love even our enemies, and to fear no one but God in heaven.
 
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posthuman

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It's a coincidence lol. I dont like Obama but he's FAR from the characteristics of the Anti-Christ. Remember, the Anti-Christ is not supposed to be a blatant blasphemer. He's gonna appear like...the Christ...to confuse people. Obama doesn't even ACT like Jesus. Therefore, it is obvious he is NOT the Anti-Christ.
yah, i was wondering for a while if it wouldn't be mr. Romney, sweeping in and appearing to fulfill the Mormon 'white horse prophecy' of a future world religious/political ruler. the LDS teaches that a temple will be built in Missouri and from there a Mormon political leader will sit on the throne of the world and be equal to or greater than God.
that idea didn't seem to get as much news coverage as our current president's name having Arabic origin.
 

john832

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To be correct here, the antichrist is a spirit of rebellion against Christ. The word is only used 5 times in the Bible...

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Now through modern usage the term "antichrist" has come to mean this guy...

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The correct name for him is "the Man of Sin" but we have come to refer to him as the antichrist. Another portrait of him...

Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

He is the head of the Great Whore...

Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
 
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I don't agree with Mitt Romney's religion but nor do I Obamas. While he claims to be a Christian he politics show that he definitely is not. He supports abortion and gay marriage which are against the Bible. If a republican believes this way they would not get my vote.I would vote republican who espouses the beliefs that the party stand for ie.marriage between a man and woman,against abortion,Israel deserves our support.None of which the president believes in. He has mocked Christians and the Bible and has made a mess of this country.I cannot understand how a Christian could in good conscience could vote for this president.
 
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It's a coincidence lol. I dont like Obama but he's FAR from the characteristics of the Anti-Christ. Remember, the Anti-Christ is not supposed to be a blatant blasphemer. He's gonna appear like...the Christ...to confuse people. Obama doesn't even ACT like Jesus. Therefore, it is obvious he is NOT the Anti-Christ.
Where exactly does it say that in scripture....as the last time I checked he will OPPOSE and EXALT HIMSELF above ALL that is called God or that is worshipped as God so that he as God sits in the temple claiming himself to be God.

So...What set of verses teach that he will ACT like Jesus and appear like the Christ so as to confuse people? Just asking....?
 

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Perhaps God appointed him, after all he uses even the wicked for his purpose however we also cannot ignore the fact it very well could have been the enemy as well. Barrack Obama is literally the worst president we have ever had and he doesn't play by the rules either. Also I just want to mention that his name is in the bible in Genesis andnot matter how you look at it the way his name is in it doesn't look Good.

I mean honestly I know so many people say he is the antichrist and I have him under suspect of being so but i also have others under suspicion as well. I admit he is the only president I have ever known to be called our Lord and savior he is the only one I have found his name in the bible but many presidents before him were also labeled as the antichrist as well. btw he needs to color his hair black again the grey just doesnt work for him at all
God did appoint him but, as I pointed out, only He knows why.


[h=1]Romans 13:1 New King James Version (NKJV)[/h]1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

[h=1]Romans 13:1 New King James Version (NKJV)[/h]1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
 

kentappel

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God appointing and God allowing are two different things.I do not think God would want a president like Obama who mocks the Bible and is against Bible principals.
No, God did appoint him for whatever reason God saw fit, read the passage below

Romans 13:1 New King James Version (NKJV)

1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
 

kentappel

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I don't agree with Mitt Romney's religion but nor do I Obamas. While he claims to be a Christian he politics show that he definitely is not. He supports abortion and gay marriage which are against the Bible. If a republican believes this way they would not get my vote.I would vote republican who espouses the beliefs that the party stand for ie.marriage between a man and woman,against abortion,Israel deserves our support.None of which the president believes in. He has mocked Christians and the Bible and has made a mess of this country.I cannot understand how a Christian could in good conscience could vote for this president.
Kind of ironic that in 2008 Obama said he supported traditional marriage and also that one of his possible successors, Hilary Clinton, in the past said the same thing. I would bet she doesn't say that now though as they are just politicians who go where the political wind is blowing.

Republicans are not any better though as even though they talk a good game about being against abortion not many of them have ever put forward a piece of legislation opposing it.

Also, Republican George W Bush didn't take a stand for Christ when he gave a lukewarm response in an interview when he said that Muslims worship the same God that Christians worship. I really think that politicians just say what they think people want to hear George Bush says that Christians and Muslims worship the same God (Jesus answers this in John 14:6) - YouTube
 
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No, God did appoint him for whatever reason God saw fit, read the passage below

Romans 13:1 New King James Version (NKJV)

1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
The governing authority in America is We The People. We're not set up like other historical nations. Our president is not the same as an emperor or leader even. He's just a temporary office holder.

This passage actually applies to us. We have been appointed by God, and we have filled the office with Obama (though I personally did not vote for him).
 
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God simply gives nations the leaders that the nation deserves. God can and will put evil men in power to bring about his end plan. Too many people turning away from God? YES! the nation will fall, that fall beginning with the man in power.
 
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Here in the United States Barack Obama was appointed by God to be our leader...
Yes He did... :rolleyes:

[SUP]6[/SUP]...But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. [SUP]7 [/SUP]And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected Me as their king. [SUP]8 [/SUP]As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking Me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”...

[SUP]19 [/SUP]But the people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We want a king over us. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.”
[SUP]21 [/SUP]When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the Lord. [SUP]22 [/SUP]The Lord answered, “Listen to them and give them a king.”

(1 Samuel 8: 6-9, 19-21 / NIV)
 

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I dont agree with his politics but he can be a funny fellow. MOst people saw the clip of him at the voting polls yesterday and a woman's boyfriend went up to him and said "don't touch my girlfriend" xD Hilarity ensued from there.
You said, Hillary ensued from there? oops, wrong prez.
 
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The American President is ONE of three branches of American government. Obama is one third of it all. Our prayers are due all three branches of government, that not one of them will not succeed against God. It must be all three succeed to bring godly success to all of America. The Founders knew that. George Washington embodied that principle. The mega blood of Americans called of God demands that.

If America of 2014 ignores those principles, then America is cursed, doomed. Come back, America, to your roots, to righteousness. Return to Jesus our Christ, and do His few commandments. The alternative is disaster for our nation. Mankind cannot save itself. It takes the one Savior send from God. We know who that is. Embrace HIM.
 
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The Anointed One, the Christ of God, identified as Jesus, Lord of lords, King of kings is the true leader of free men. Don't trust in a single carnal man as a replacement for Christ in us. Fools supported Obama as the "next savior". It is a lie.
 
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The American President is ONE of three branches of American government. Obama is one third of it all. Our prayers are due all three branches of government, that not one of them will not succeed against God....
Let's not forget prayers for the electorate, which is the true leader of this nation. All appointed to office are the result of the electorate.
 
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We should pray for our leaders without doubt. God raises up kings and brings them down. God also gives a nation a leader that they deserve. I believe our current leader is a reflection of our evil hearts.
 
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God simply gives nations the leaders that the nation deserves. God can and will put evil men in power to bring about his end plan. Too many people turning away from God? YES! the nation will fall, that fall beginning with the man in power.

wisdom has spoken
 

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If people are complaining about the leaders we have now, what would they have done when their leaders were feeding christians to lions thousands of years ago? Lol