Be angry, and yet do not sin

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lastofall

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[for me anyway] "and sin not" is to say "and presume innocence"
 

JaumeJ

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When someone is angry without cause with another, this is considered the same as killing..........When a person is moved to anger because of injustice or lies this is righteous anger as long as the person is not moved to act in error.

Question asked by Pamelasv:

· “Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:” (Ephesians 4.26)

How do you explain this one? The only kind of anger I am aware of is a righteous anger.
 

Chester

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There are two basic possibilities usually given for meaning here

(1) That anger is something that we are commanded to have (that is: be righteously angry) - this is the KJV idea

(2) That anger is merely permitted but should be controlled (as in the NIV and some other translations)


The Greek verb tense here is an imperative - that is - a command. As such, the KJV translation is accurate. However, in Greek the imperative has different shades of meaning depending on the context. One shade of meaning for an imperative is what Dana and Mantey (in A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament) call the "imperative of permission".

A clear example of this kind of use of the imperative is seen in I Corinthians 7:15: "But if the unbeliever depart, let him depart". The verb "let him depart" is a permissive imperative. Paul is not commanding the woman to depart, but is giving her permission to do so.

So, the Greek verb itself can be translated either way: as option #1 or #2 above: the translator must decide based upon the context and upon his theology! :p

I personally think that Paul means here is commanding us to be righteously angry at the sin around
 

Magenta

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Injustice makes God angry :D Me too!
 

KALYNA18

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Jesus equated anger with murder, and lust with adultery. Coveting is also spoken against extensively in the commandments... just examples of how thoughts and emotions can be sinful :(
never equated these together. Thank you berry much. They wonder why people do things in a court of law, and here is a possible or maye the right deep root cause. Anger. Lust yes with adultery. Anger if not dealt with and only the holy spirit has that deep inner insight, of a man's heart, cutting asunder between the soul and spirit, could be a hidden seed, that grows up and though it's cut down, grows back again, so it in prayers, should be cursed at it's seed. Completely destroyed. ty.
 
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Anger is an emotion.

God gave us emotions for a reason --- just as He gave us our senses for a reason.

As born again ones, we are to have our emotions and our senses under control of the HS within.

Ephesians 4:26 tells us if we're going to be angry, we are not to allow our anger to lead us to sin. And the phrase let not the sun go down upon your wrath puts a time limit on our anger. There are verses of Scripture which indicate God lets go of His anger (Psalm 103:9, Is 57:16). We are to let go of our anger and not let the anger build up within us.

If we hold on to our anger, it could turn to wrath, which is a work of the flesh. And in Eph 4:31 we are to put anger away from us so that we may be kind, tenderhearted, forgiving (Eph 4:32).
 
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Question asked by Pamelasv:

· “Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:” (Ephesians 4.26)

How do you explain this one? The only kind of anger I am aware of is a righteous anger.
there is righteous anger.

if you dwell in anger because someone offended you in some way, or if a person is angry because they dont get there way thats not for us.

But if were angry because we see someone beating a homeless man, or making fun of a mentally challenged kid or something is different not that we are anyones Judge or should carry that, but sometimes righteous anger is not misplaced
 

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This kind of emotion is not for his Sons and Daughters KJVEphesians4;31-32 31. Let all bitterness, and wrath,and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice; 32.And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
 
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Ariel82

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To forgive every night and give it to God. Even righteous anger should be given to God in trust that He will judge righteously and punish.

Otherwise anger turns to bitterness and allows Satan a foothold to turn into a stronghold in your life that wars against the knowledge of God.
 
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a Christian usually does not get angry more, such as the world does,
but they 'grieve' greatly for the failings of the lost, such as we once were...
 

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anger is a normal human emotion. Anyone who says that we aren't supposed to experience it are shame based abusive people and should be dismissed out of hand.
 

CLee622

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Sirk I agree to an extent I thought I said here, but didn't, that the reason we experience anger, or any emotion, is because God made us in His image. His anger is perfect, ours is not.
 

Sirk

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Sirk I agree to an extent I thought I said here, but didn't, that the reason we experience anger, or any emotion, is because God made us in His image. His anger is perfect, ours is not.
When you are going thru the grieving process for whatever reason....should you skip over the one that brings you to anger? Or should you recognize it and sit in it for awhile? Suppressing legitimate feelings has nothing to do with righteousness and everything to do with building a volcano in you that will soon blow.

Unprocessed emotional pain always leads to anger anxiety and depression. This is why most "christian" counseling does more harm than good to people. And there are many facets to anger...from mild frustration to full blown rage...they are all anger just the same.
 
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How is the Bible describe the angry man? The angry man stirreth up strife KJVProverbs29;22 22. An angry man stirreth up strife, and a furious man aboundeth in transgression.;Make no friendship with the angry man KJVProverbs22;24-25 24. Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shelt not go; 25. Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.;How to overcome anger? We got answer in KJVColossians3;8-10 8. But now ye also put off all these; anger,wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of you mouth. 9. Lie not one to another, seeing that ye put off the old man with his deeds; 10. And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him;
 
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pottersclay

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Be angry, and do not sin. Meditate within your heart on your bed, and be still

This is what Paul was quoting from psalms 4:4

Paul was addressing conflict and how to deal with it. As the psalms suggest sometimes it's better to lay quiet in bed and think over what's been said and how to respond.
Don't let the sun go down on your wrath: sometimes a resolve cannot be found but it is unhealthy to just disregard and try to forget. It can lead to bitterness and more anger.

We tend to regret words spoken in anger but that regret cannot take back a hurt we may have caused. The hurt could lead to a even bigger conflict.
We will get angry, we will have conflict, is it sin? Only when not handled properly. It can open the door for Satan.