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The folllowing are teachings from Yeshua, Himself, on commandments. Pay close attention, especially the ones from Revelation.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Mar 10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
2Jn 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Mar 10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
2Jn 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
circumcision is always brought up, when one wants to put down the law. My uncle was in his 30s, and was circumcised, not because of law, but because the doctor told him it had to be done because of the problems it was causing him. Seems like my uncle would have rather had it done as a baby, it may not have been as painful, and agonizing, what he went through before and after the surgery. in no way am i saying ones flesh must be circumcised, but what i will say is God has never told us to do something that wasn't for our benefit, health, wellbeing.
B
They will not hear what you have just said because they have a partial vail over their heart and they have not turned all the way so that the vail is completely removed.
2 Cor 3:13-18
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
There are some parts of the law in the reading of the OT they can not resist and will not quite turn all the way unto the Lord. They want to hang onto to certain things that have meaning to them in the law and won't give them up and therefore do not have the liberty they could have through the Spirit. They love the symbolism and even the traditions associated with the law and what the Israelites were under, even when they were in the wilderness. Secretly and subtly they want the law to be part of their service to God and when the grace of God tramples on their desire to keep and uphold the law they get upset and accuse you of not having understanding of the purpose of the law.
They want Christ to be the lawgiver as well as the one whom God sent and came by grace and truth. They want the law to have its place alongside the grace of God. They want the works of the law to be for righteouesness just as much as any righteousness that comes by grace through faith without the deeds of the law. They want the law upheld by the same standard that we uphold grace and truth. In order to do this a part of that vail has to remain over their heart and it becomes a sacred thing for them and they become hardened in it. If they could have their way they would do everything in their power to bring back the ark (where the law is sealed up) to have the presence of God in their life. This would be their practice concerning the presence of God against the NT church where God dwells and is present in every member of the body of Christ.
Every member has a supply of the Spirit that is nourished up with the life of God but that is second fiddle compared to the law they want to be under. They would have to humble themselves to each member of Christ's body to get that supply but they would rather submit to the law and get God's blessing directly from serving the law and not the body of Christ. The more they serve and put themselves under the law the less the body of Christ means to them. This is what Paul taught concerning the body and got it directly as a revelation from Jesus Christ and they do not want to submit to it under the grace of the new covenant. Inwardly they esteem the law greater than the riches of God's grace and want to hide themselves in the law instead of being hid with Christ in God by faith.
Ephesians 3 tells the story.
2 Cor 3:13-18
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
There are some parts of the law in the reading of the OT they can not resist and will not quite turn all the way unto the Lord. They want to hang onto to certain things that have meaning to them in the law and won't give them up and therefore do not have the liberty they could have through the Spirit. They love the symbolism and even the traditions associated with the law and what the Israelites were under, even when they were in the wilderness. Secretly and subtly they want the law to be part of their service to God and when the grace of God tramples on their desire to keep and uphold the law they get upset and accuse you of not having understanding of the purpose of the law.
They want Christ to be the lawgiver as well as the one whom God sent and came by grace and truth. They want the law to have its place alongside the grace of God. They want the works of the law to be for righteouesness just as much as any righteousness that comes by grace through faith without the deeds of the law. They want the law upheld by the same standard that we uphold grace and truth. In order to do this a part of that vail has to remain over their heart and it becomes a sacred thing for them and they become hardened in it. If they could have their way they would do everything in their power to bring back the ark (where the law is sealed up) to have the presence of God in their life. This would be their practice concerning the presence of God against the NT church where God dwells and is present in every member of the body of Christ.
Every member has a supply of the Spirit that is nourished up with the life of God but that is second fiddle compared to the law they want to be under. They would have to humble themselves to each member of Christ's body to get that supply but they would rather submit to the law and get God's blessing directly from serving the law and not the body of Christ. The more they serve and put themselves under the law the less the body of Christ means to them. This is what Paul taught concerning the body and got it directly as a revelation from Jesus Christ and they do not want to submit to it under the grace of the new covenant. Inwardly they esteem the law greater than the riches of God's grace and want to hide themselves in the law instead of being hid with Christ in God by faith.
Ephesians 3 tells the story.
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Let's see here, no uncircumcised person could take the Passover.
Circumcision is addressed in three ways in the New Testament. There is the circumcision that is the physical act, there is the Circumcision that refers to Jewry and there is the circumcision of the heart.
Is circumcision to be done today?
Yepper,
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
And the uncircumcised cannot take the Passover today. Oh they might take a sip of wine and eat a piece of unleavened bread but that is all they have done.
What did God intend all along?
Deu 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
God intended the circumcision of the heart all along. What was the problem...
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
The problem is the human heart...
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
And it cannot be fixed by man. God must convert the heart...
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Circumcision is addressed in three ways in the New Testament. There is the circumcision that is the physical act, there is the Circumcision that refers to Jewry and there is the circumcision of the heart.
Is circumcision to be done today?
Yepper,
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
And the uncircumcised cannot take the Passover today. Oh they might take a sip of wine and eat a piece of unleavened bread but that is all they have done.
What did God intend all along?
Deu 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
God intended the circumcision of the heart all along. What was the problem...
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
The problem is the human heart...
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
And it cannot be fixed by man. God must convert the heart...
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
B
You seem to have the epistles of John as the words of Yahweh but not any of the writings of Paul. Why is that? Your problem is that you esteem the commandments under the law of the OT greater in glory than the commandments we have been given in Christ under the grace of the NT, which we are made able ministers of. The commandments under the law of the OT are not of faith but those of the NT are. Here is some scripture that you also need to reckon with...
2 Cor 3:6-11
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
...and we have Romans 9:30-32
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
You and others keep the Sabbath as a work of the law contained in the 10 commandments of which you also keep and do for righteousness. If you deny that you are not being honest with how you live before God. There is no way you can keep the Sabbath or any law and not do it for the sake of righteousness or even Christ's sake, who is our righteousness. The Sabbath was engraved in stone as was the other nine and was a ministration of condemnation. You can't isolate the law of the Sabbath from the others commandments and do what you want with it as a NT believer. JaumeJ, if you think I am confused about the above passages, then give an explanation according to your understanding of them as a NT believer who is under grace and not the law.
2 Cor 3:6-11
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
...and we have Romans 9:30-32
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
You and others keep the Sabbath as a work of the law contained in the 10 commandments of which you also keep and do for righteousness. If you deny that you are not being honest with how you live before God. There is no way you can keep the Sabbath or any law and not do it for the sake of righteousness or even Christ's sake, who is our righteousness. The Sabbath was engraved in stone as was the other nine and was a ministration of condemnation. You can't isolate the law of the Sabbath from the others commandments and do what you want with it as a NT believer. JaumeJ, if you think I am confused about the above passages, then give an explanation according to your understanding of them as a NT believer who is under grace and not the law.
BradC, I esteem my heavenly Father Who is most gracious in saving a wretch such as I. He is Love, the only Love I have ever known, so if it hurts you that I go as far as I am able within the saving Grace I have received from Him to please Him, I am truly sorry, but what is that to you?
If you indeed truly know the freedom of grace, by all means serve Him in any manner you have been given to do so, but do not judge your brethren who know what and why they do what they do. It is obvious you are attempting to dissuade me from obeying the commandments of my Father, and His Son, that is to say, His will. You will not. I pray you are doing this out of love and concern and not just some kind of power trip. Many who come in are are the latter, but they do fade like smoke.
If you indeed truly know the freedom of grace, by all means serve Him in any manner you have been given to do so, but do not judge your brethren who know what and why they do what they do. It is obvious you are attempting to dissuade me from obeying the commandments of my Father, and His Son, that is to say, His will. You will not. I pray you are doing this out of love and concern and not just some kind of power trip. Many who come in are are the latter, but they do fade like smoke.
B
All of this that has been posted has to do with how we reason. I know that there are certain things that Paul speaks of concerning the law that you refuse and instead revert to what Christ teaches in the gospel. You nor I have not been given any special rights to do that concerning the whole counsel of God and if we leave out what has been written for our learning because of a lack of understanding then we need to go to those who have understanding through the Spirit and learn from them. But to do that we have to humble ourselves under the mighty hand of God in the body of Christ and not live isolated from the life of God and from those who God has raised up in the body to preach and teach the word and doctrine. There is a risk involved and it has to do with faith and obedience and trusting God's provisions of grace.
All who believe all of the Holy Scriptures have been given certain "rights" as you refer to them by Paul, himself. He teaches there is no other gospel than that of Jesus Christ. When Paul refers to his Gospel, he is referring to Christ's teaching, never to his own. This is why although I learn from Paul, I do not belong to Paul for Paul teaches we do not. I belong to Yeshua, my Salvation, and I hear Him. I am sorry many do not understand this "right" as you call it. I call it a gift, first from Yeshua, then through and from Paul. I know this by the Holy Spirit and by the plain words written by Paul and by the Evangelists from Yeshua. One cannot deny what has been given him. I praise Yeshua for all He has done for me, for you, for all, amen.
Booo.
I'm a Christian who follows much of the Law physically and or spiritually. Heck, I've even circumcised my boys. But it has nothing to do with salvation. Just because you obey God's commands doesn't automatically mean you're negating salvation by grace. I am ONLY saved by the life, death and resurrection of my Messiah. But just because I'm saved doesn't mean I get to sit around on my tush doing nothing. I want to help build up the Kingdom, and by the grace and power of the Holy Spirit, the Law is a way to do that.
I'm aware that some law-keepers trust in the law for salvation, but not all.
I'm a Christian who follows much of the Law physically and or spiritually. Heck, I've even circumcised my boys. But it has nothing to do with salvation. Just because you obey God's commands doesn't automatically mean you're negating salvation by grace. I am ONLY saved by the life, death and resurrection of my Messiah. But just because I'm saved doesn't mean I get to sit around on my tush doing nothing. I want to help build up the Kingdom, and by the grace and power of the Holy Spirit, the Law is a way to do that.
I'm aware that some law-keepers trust in the law for salvation, but not all.
B
Who said anything about belonging to Paul or Peter or Apollos? We are speaking to the written word which was inspired by the Holy Spirit and those things given to Paul by direct revelation...
Gal 1:11,12
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Eph 2:20
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 3:3-5
3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
1Peter 4:10,11
10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
1 Cor 2:7-10
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
Paul was taught by direct revelation from the Lord Jesus Christ in a mystery which was not made known before in other ages unto the sons of men. It was given by grace and spoken by Paul as the wisdom God (hidden wisdom) which God ordained under the stewardship of grace. These things that were revealed by the Spirit had never entered the eye, ear or heart of man. Concerning your proposition that you are not of Paul and that you have the liberty and right to excuse whatever you want as to what he taught in scripture is a rejection of the foundation of Christ and the church and a repudiation of the revelation of Christ and the wisdom of God given as a mystery. That goes for anyone that would do such a thing.
Gal 1:11,12
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Eph 2:20
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 3:3-5
3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
1Peter 4:10,11
10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
1 Cor 2:7-10
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
Paul was taught by direct revelation from the Lord Jesus Christ in a mystery which was not made known before in other ages unto the sons of men. It was given by grace and spoken by Paul as the wisdom God (hidden wisdom) which God ordained under the stewardship of grace. These things that were revealed by the Spirit had never entered the eye, ear or heart of man. Concerning your proposition that you are not of Paul and that you have the liberty and right to excuse whatever you want as to what he taught in scripture is a rejection of the foundation of Christ and the church and a repudiation of the revelation of Christ and the wisdom of God given as a mystery. That goes for anyone that would do such a thing.
I watched 1 of my boys get circumcised on the 8th day. It wasn't pleasant to watch. I can't even imagine it for him.
I always come back to Shechem in Gen 34. If an ENTIRE city is in so much pain after being circumcised that they would let 2 men kill them all, you know it's pretty bad. I'll give women the rank of most painful thing with childbirth, but I'm willing to say circumcision, especially as an adult is a CLOSE 2nd.
That being said, you're right Don. If God told His people to do it, there is a benefit to it spiritually and physically.
I always come back to Shechem in Gen 34. If an ENTIRE city is in so much pain after being circumcised that they would let 2 men kill them all, you know it's pretty bad. I'll give women the rank of most painful thing with childbirth, but I'm willing to say circumcision, especially as an adult is a CLOSE 2nd.
That being said, you're right Don. If God told His people to do it, there is a benefit to it spiritually and physically.
And if we had the mind of God, we would understand all. Sometimes one has to obey God ought of sheer faith not being able to see why. Seems funny that the faith and grace only crowd seem to be unable to comprehend that point...
2Co 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
2Co 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
Son #1 had to wait until 1 y/o to do it, which was an even harder situation due to some other issues. Just as hard on Dad as it would have been on the 8th day.
Son #2 had it done on the 8th day.
Booo.
I'm a Christian who follows much of the Law physically and or spiritually. Heck, I've even circumcised my boys. But it has nothing to do with salvation. Just because you obey God's commands doesn't automatically mean you're negating salvation by grace. I am ONLY saved by the life, death and resurrection of my Messiah. But just because I'm saved doesn't mean I get to sit around on my tush doing nothing. I want to help build up the Kingdom, and by the grace and power of the Holy Spirit, the Law is a way to do that.
I'm aware that some law-keepers trust in the law for salvation, but not all.
I'm a Christian who follows much of the Law physically and or spiritually. Heck, I've even circumcised my boys. But it has nothing to do with salvation. Just because you obey God's commands doesn't automatically mean you're negating salvation by grace. I am ONLY saved by the life, death and resurrection of my Messiah. But just because I'm saved doesn't mean I get to sit around on my tush doing nothing. I want to help build up the Kingdom, and by the grace and power of the Holy Spirit, the Law is a way to do that.
I'm aware that some law-keepers trust in the law for salvation, but not all.
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Just because you're not physically obeying all 613 as a total unit doesn't mean you're obeying them at all. When I observe the Sabbath, I'm obeying God's commands.
Besides, as I've mentioned before, to the best of my knowledge I'm obeying them all physically and/or spiritually. Fortunately, as a Christian saved by grace, I don't NEED to obey all of them from some greater motivation.
Besides, as I've mentioned before, to the best of my knowledge I'm obeying them all physically and/or spiritually. Fortunately, as a Christian saved by grace, I don't NEED to obey all of them from some greater motivation.