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OliviaDonna

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I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.
1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
I have so many more questions.
 

JimmieD

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1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
(a) Maybe he did?

(b) Where do you get the Lucifer betrayal doctrine?

2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome?
Maybe we don't have freewill? And if we do have freewill, maybe there's a reason for granting it anyway?

Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
(a) Maybe God has a really good reason?

(b) Nobody "redeems themselves." People that can pardon themselves don't really need a pardon.

(c) It could be that much of what we experience in pain and suffering is of our own doing (though admittedly not all of it).

3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
This has always been my take on it: God's not going to be unfair. Everyone will be judged on their own merits. If you haven't heard of Jesus, you wouldn't be judged for not hearing about Jesus. You would be judged on the merits of your entire life. If something isn't fair, God, who neither unfair nor unjust, wouldn't act unfairly or unjustly. If someone wound up burning in hell for eternity, it would be because it was deserved; if they didn't don't deserve it, they won't be there.

Of course, Christians would maintain that this is a real problem for us since there are none that are actually deserving of paradise and the resurrection. A real problem for us is that given fairness and justice, all of us are in trouble. What we need is God's grace, and not getting what we actually deserve.

For the person who hasn't heard of Jesus, his judgment would be based on his own merit, in which case he's in trouble since we're all unrighteous. But he's in trouble because of his own behavior and his own merits, not for something he had no control over hearing and rejecting.

4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
Not exactly sure what you mean.

5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities?
Are people and animals with those things "mistakes?" Clearly they are the result of things not working as designed, but I don't know that they're "mistakes." Of course, that doesn't make it too much better since it implies the process is this way by design. But I don't think that God is ignorant or evil, so I can imagine that he knows some things I don't and has a reason for things being as they are, even if we don't always know what those things are.

Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
Because nothing is perfect. It's the way the biological, psychological, and physiological process sometimes function. Our processes don't always function properly.

6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
Do you need those kinds of things to happen? I'm not convinced that things today are really all that different from "back then." I suppose if God wanted to do something utterly incredible, he could do so. Why he wouldn't. I dunno. He doesn't tell me those kinds of things.
 

MikkoAinasoja

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In the beginning, God has not create Satan so that he may betray mankind.
 

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these are big questions; pardon me if i'm Socratic about answering them :)

I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.
1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
didn't He?
Christ is called 'the Lamb slain from the foundation of the earth'
instead of looking at this mystery and wondering 'how could God have made such a big mistake' ?
maybe wonder 'how & why is it that this was His plan' ?
looking at it the first way is presuming that He is fallible, but the second acknowledges that He is perfect. which way of looking at God will lead us to the answer?


2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
why do we let children make mistakes while they're learning to do something?
why do teachers give out tests to their students, instead of just filling in the answers themselves, since they've already mastered the subject?
how much 'free will' we actually have - or what 'free will' actually is, is a non-trivial question too - and maybe that needs to be understood before we can even frame a question like this.




3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
God will judge them, not us.
as for us, we have heard the gospel - so what will we do with what we have heard? we can't un-hear it.
so why worry about them now? first, what about you and me?


4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
where do you get the idea that He was shocked?
He asked them questions - like i'm doing - and they were led to confess and see what they had done. and then He told them how it would be because of what had happened, including how victory over transgression would come from 'the seed of the woman' - that great Lamb who was purposed before the world was made.


5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
you're asking why evil exists - with a bent towards asking if evil exists at all.
if i wanted to draw a picture to communicate something to you, and i took a perfectly white crayon and drew it on a perfectly white page, how would you see it? you couldn't. i have to use contrast to make you see an image.
if i wanted to show you that God is life, and that He is able to bring the dead back to life, and out of darkness into light, and that there is no death or darkness in Him at all -- how can i make you understand this if you have no knowledge of darkness at all, no concept of death at all? what if those things didn't even exist? you understand them by contrast.
the tree that Eve & Adam ate from was called the tree of 'knowledge of good & evil' -- yes?
so you're asking why knowledge of good & evil exists in the world - well, because they ate of it, and in them all mankind also ate.
not understanding why something exists doesn't make it cease to exist.
looking at these things with the attitude 'these shouldn't exist' blinds us to understanding them.



6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
just you wait; they will happen again. God is being patient with us, sifting us to reveal a faith that endures. but true visions from God? it hasn't ceased!

I have so many more questions.
me too!
And he said:
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Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children,
you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
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(Matthew 18:3)

children have many questions.
but children also trust their parents without first knowing the answers.
parents often give incomplete answers because children are immature and can't understand fully because of lack of knowledge and lack of development.
even when such answers raise more questions - children believe.

 
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JesusistheChrist

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I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.

1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
What makes you think that God was unaware of the same? God truly has declared the end from the beginning and this is but one way in which He distinguishes Himself from false gods or idols:

"To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like? They lavish gold out of the bag, and weigh silver in the balance, and hire a goldsmith; and he maketh it a god: they fall down, yea, they worship. They bear him upon the shoulder, they carry him, and set him in his place, and he standeth; from his place shall he not remove: yea, one shall cry unto him, yet can he not answer, nor save him out of his trouble. Remember this, and shew yourselves men: bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors. Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it." (Isaiah 46:5-11)

God not only foreknew of Satan's fall, but He has also determined the exact time of Satan's and demons' judgments and they are apparently aware of the same themselves:

"And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way. And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?" (Matthew 8:28-29)


The demons residing within the demoniac asked Jesus if He had come to torment them before the time. IOW, they apparently understood that there is an appointed time for their judgment. Similarly, we read in relation to Satan himself:

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time." (Revelation 12:7-12)

This battle between Michael and his angels and Satan and his angels hasn't yet transpired and when it does it will ignite what we commonly refer to as "the great tribulation", but please notice that when it does transpire that Satan comes down having great wrath because he knows that his time is short. Again, how does he know the same unless God has set time limitations or boundaries and the angels themselves are aware of the same? In Satan's case, when he and his angels are eventually cast down out of the heavenly realm and unto the earth, his time will be 3 1/2 years before Christ returns and he is bound for 1000 years. Again, God has set in place time boundaries or limitations from the beginning and there are plenty of clues for us in scripture as to exactly how long such time boundaries or limitations are.

2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
Again, God has set time limitations or time boundaries for men upon this earth:

"Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.
For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead." (Acts 17:22-31)


God has not only determined the times before appointed for man and the bounds or boundaries of their habitation upon this earth, but He has also appointed a set day in which He will judge the world in righteousness by that man Whom He has ordained and that ordained man is none other than Jesus Christ. Again, God has set or predetermined the appointed timeframes or boundaries for both men and angels upon this earth and I personally believe that the creation account tells us exactly what those set timeframes are. IOW, when God worked for 6 days and then rested upon the 7th day, I believe that He was foretelling man that his appointed time upon this earth would be 6000 years because one day with the Lord is as a thousand years and then that man would rest on the 7th day or during the Millennial Reign of Christ. After the Millennial Reign is completed, the 8th day would begin and the number 8 in scripture often points to new beginnings. For example, Noah was the 8th from Adam, there were 8 people on the ark, people were circumcised on the 8th day, etc., etc., etc.

3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
Isn't this an assumption on your part? IOW, how do you know what others have been taught? You're not omniscient, right? God communicates to people through many different avenues and one of them is via their God-given consciences. In fact, the word "conscience" literally means "with (con-) knowledge (science)":

"For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another); In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." (Romans 2:12-16)

4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
Why do you think that God acted shocked? God's plan of redemption was set in place before the foundation of the world and certainly before man was ever placed upon this earth:

"And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God." (I Peter 1:17-21)

Jesus was foreordained to be the Lamb of God before the foundation of the world, so God certainly wasn't shocked by anything which transpired in relation to Adam and Eve.

5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
First of all, God made people either male or female and nobody was ever born attracted to the same sex in the manner in which you're describing. Neither were people born to lust after either children or animals sexually. People make wrong choices throughout their lifetimes or are brought up in wrong environments which tend towards such choices, but don't put the blame upon God for anybody's sin.

Disabilities, deformities and impairments can occur for different reasons. In the case of a certain man who was born blind, Jesus said that neither he nor his parents had sinned, but that such occured that God's glory might be manifested in healing the man through Christ.

6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
God placed the rainbow in the sky as a sign of His covenant to never again flood the entire earth, so we ought not be looking for another global flood. By the same token, however, this present heaven and earth had been reserved to a future judgment by fire.

The waters parting? I'm not sure if you're referring to the waters of the Red Sea or to the waters of the Jordan, but, in either case, such partings foreshadowed spiritual truths in type. For example, Peter taught that Noah's flood foreshadowed water baptism. Now that the reality is here, why are shadows still needed?

True visions from God are still in effect. The problem isn't in God's true visions, but rather in corrupt men and women who misrepresent God. I've personally had true visions from God.

Lot's wife turning into a pillar of salt? Well, what did Jesus say in relation to the same? He said to "Remember Lot's wife" in relation to those who will one day be fleeing from Judaea when "the great tribulation" is about to begin. IOW, don't even look back as Lot's wife looked back.

I have so many more questions.
God has the answers. Seek Him and His face and He'll give you as much information as you need to navigate your way through this life and to be a part of His eternal kingdom some day.
 
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I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.
1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
I have so many more questions.
1. He did know the devil would betray Him, all things were created for His purposes, what happens to the devil in the end?

Revelation 20:10

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

2.We have the free will to choose life or death. If there was no suffering in this life what value would a eternal life of joy have to those who inherit it wherein suffering and death do not exist? God redeems man, man does not redeem himself. Men have the free will to turn from sin and repent and to believe in Christ to save them. The just will live by faith.

1 Corinthians 15:19
If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

John 5:28-29

28Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

3.God knows who would be obedient to the sprinkling of blood and who wouldn't. God foreknew those who He would call to life through faith in Christ and those void of faith who would reject the Gospel and bring themselves to damnation. There is none righteous no not one when it comes to mankind.

Romans 1:20

For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Romans 10:18

18But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for
Their voice has gone out to all the earth,and their words to the ends of the world.


4.Act like it was a shock? Genesis 3:8-24 does not show God being shocked. Does it not show God's purpose in bringing mankind a Savior, that man needs a Savior to pay for sins committed in the flesh, that the devil is man's enemy, that man is disobedient towards God and easily beguiled, incapable of life without guidance from above, and that original sin has it's beginning in the flesh of Adam and Eve?

John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.

Romans 5:18

Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.

5.People are not born with a desire to torture things nor to lust after children and animals. That is a false assumption. Tell me...do you see babies under 3 years old exhibit these behaviors? Absolutely not. Do you see your error?

Romans 8:7-8
7For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. 8Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

Luke 18:16
But Jesus called them to him, saying, “Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God.

6. Perhaps you have closed your eyes and ears to miracles that happen everyday. Perhaps you are ignorant of the scriptures that speak of these times......

2 Timothy 4:3-4
3For the time is coming when people will not endure sound[SUP]a[/SUP] teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

Jude 1:17-19
17But you must remember, beloved, the predictions of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ. 18They[SUP]f[/SUP] said to you, “In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions.” 19It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit.

2 Peter 2:9-16
9then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials,[SUP]d[/SUP] and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment, 10and especially those who indulge[SUP]e[/SUP] in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority.Bold and willful, they do not tremble as they blaspheme the glorious ones, 11whereas angels, though greater in might and power, do not pronounce a blasphemous judgment against them before the Lord. 12But these, like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed, blaspheming about matters of which they are ignorant, will also be destroyed in their destruction, 13suffering wrong as the wage for their wrongdoing. They count it pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their deceptions,[SUP]f[/SUP] while they feast with you. 14They have eyes full of adultery, insatiable for sin. They entice unsteady souls. They have hearts trained in greed. Accursed children! 15Forsaking the right way, they have gone astray. They have followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved gain from wrongdoing, 16but was rebuked for his own transgression; a speechless donkey spoke with human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.
 
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I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.
1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
I have so many more questions.
Question 1: He did know Lucifer would betray him. That was part of the design of things.
 
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I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.
1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
I have so many more questions.
Question 2: How would you like to have your free will taken away from you? Pain and suffering has a way of influencing us to repent of our sin. Nothing is predestined. We can repent of our sin any time we want, and once we repent, life becomes beautiful.
 
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I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.
1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
I have so many more questions.
Question 3: Anyone who obeyed this teaching went to heaven:

[34] But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sad'ducees, they came together.
[35] And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him.
[36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets." Matt 22:34-40 RSV
 
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I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.
1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
I have so many more questions.
Question 4: I wouldn’t describe the Lord’s reaction as one of shock. Here’s what happened:

[8] And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
[9] But the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?"
[10] And he said, "I heard the sound of thee in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."
[11] He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?"
[12] The man said, "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate."
[13] Then the LORD God said to the woman, "What is this that you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent beguiled me, and I ate." Gen 3:8-13 RSV
The Lord then goes on to describe the consequences of what they have done.
 
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I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.
1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
He did.
2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
We don't have free will. Pain and suffering have nothing to do with whom he will redeem and whom he won't. It has everything to do with his purposes and, for those he does redeem, our good.
3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
It's time to do your own Bible reading. You'll never find anything about "welcome Jesus into your heart." Don't know where people get that crap, but it's not the Bible. As for what Jesus will and won't do for people? He covered that. Read the Gospel of John, chapter 3. And then read John 6:35-40.
4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
You know God. Why haven't you done what you're supposed to do? And, even in showing you don't with this post, you still dare to judge God? Gutsy. Really gutsy. (And useless.)
5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
Why do you think mental impairments are mistakes? Why do you think deformities are mistakes? Why do you think all men don't think about killing others and hurting animals? Seems to me, this is your problem, not God's. He doesn't think I'm the freak. You do.
6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
I have so many more questions.
You want them to? Whoa! Kind of a death wish there, hunh?

So one big question back at you? Why did you put down you're a Christian on your profile? Christians usually believe in the God of the Bible and actually seek him, want to do what he says, and try to work with him in them. You? All you're doing is asking the well trained series of questions most God haters ask.
 
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I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.
1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
I have so many more questions.
Question 5:

Who said a mental impairment, disability or deformity is a mistake?

It is up to us to resist the temptation to sin, be it the temptation to torture things, or lust after children or animals, or whatever – not up to the Lord to remove temptation.

A person who lusts after another person, be it homosexual or heterosexual, is simply committing the sin of adultery (Matt 5:28). The Lord commanded us not to look lustfully at people. However, he gave us a free will. Would you rather not have a free will?

I didn’t know people were born with schizophrenia, but if they were, was that a mistake?
 
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I have so many questions. If anyone could give their input, I'd absolutely appreciate it.
1. If God has known everything from beginning to end, why didn't he know that lucifer would betray him?
2. If he knows everything from beginning to end, then why we're humans given free will if he already knows the outcome? Why let pain and suffering continue to go on when he already knows who will redeem themselves?
3. You're suppose to welcome Jesus into your heart and accept him as your savior to be welcomed into heaven, but what about the good people that were never I introduced to Christian religion and grew up believing what they were taught. That doesn't seem fair.
4. Along with questions 1 & 2, if he knows everything , then he would've known that Adam and Eve would give into temptation. So why act like it was a shock when it happened?
5. if he doesn't make mistakes, why are people and animals born with mental impairments? Disabilities? Deformities? Some people are born with the desire to torture things, lust after children and animals. Some born attracted to the same sex. Or born with schizophrenia. Why?
6. Why don't things happen today like they did back then? The great flood, the waters parting, true visions from God, the woman turning into a pillar of salt. These things don't happen anymore. Why?
I have so many more questions.
Question 6:

So you need a great flood, waters parting, and a woman turning into a pillar of salt every day before you’ll believe? Ain’t going to happen.

But as for true visions from God, aren’t you listening to him? He talks to you all the time.

Who would have believed the Soviet Union suddenly would have disappeared almost overnight after terrorizing the world for about seventy years? Who in my generation would have envisioned the computer? Would the people in the 1950’s ever have believed we’d have people walking on the moon? Who in the early 1800’s had seen an automobile or a flying machine? Who in the 1600’s had seen a cotton gin?