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Shroom ALL the Body of Christ does believe the same... ALL!!! Every soul in that body is ONE SPIRIT! ONE not two ONE... And One spirit only believes ONE FAITH!! There might be as many as 2 billion people in that body if God wants and they ALL HAVE ONE SPIRIT, ONE TRUTH, ONE GOD, And ONE FAITH AND DOCTRINE!... Look here they are united in ONE FAITH!!! And they do not believe tha this person or that person teaches, they ALL BELIVE WHAT GOD TEACHES!!!
This is what we try to share with you... Be UNITED IN GOD!!! THEN HE IS ALL IN ALL!!! ONE GOD!!There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
So this is true... ALL Christians do believe the same, it is the "christian talkers" that are so diverse, God's Chrsitians that LIVE OUT JESUS, they are ALL ONE BODY with NO Strife amongst them... Look Till we all come in the unity of the faith,
Notice THE faith,,, Not a faith of one of many... ONLY ONE FAITH for the TRUTH CHILDREN!,,,Those perfected AFTER they became SAINTS!
This is what we try to share with you... Be UNITED IN GOD!!! THEN HE IS ALL IN ALL!!! ONE GOD!!There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
So this is true... ALL Christians do believe the same, it is the "christian talkers" that are so diverse, God's Chrsitians that LIVE OUT JESUS, they are ALL ONE BODY with NO Strife amongst them... Look Till we all come in the unity of the faith,
Notice THE faith,,, Not a faith of one of many... ONLY ONE FAITH for the TRUTH CHILDREN!,,,Those perfected AFTER they became SAINTS!
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yes we should be impartial in our judgment but do you know what is being judged, Ramon?
They do not judge just behavior but sound doctrine. Whether the Gospel of Christ is being spoken or if there are wolves seeking to lead others away from Christ. It is not the blatantly offensive that are wolves, but the sleek and sugar coated ones with wells of poisoned water that pretend for a while to be of God's sheep and then turn and reveal their hearts.
Some claim others to be wolves and themselves sheep.
Can you judge which is happening?
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU[/video]
They do not judge just behavior but sound doctrine. Whether the Gospel of Christ is being spoken or if there are wolves seeking to lead others away from Christ. It is not the blatantly offensive that are wolves, but the sleek and sugar coated ones with wells of poisoned water that pretend for a while to be of God's sheep and then turn and reveal their hearts.
Some claim others to be wolves and themselves sheep.
Can you judge which is happening?
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU[/video]
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No, we don't. Read the posts. People obviously believe different things. About the only thing we can agree on is that Jesus Christ is the crux of Christianity. People disagree on how to get saved, how to stay saved, what salvation even is, eschatology, manifestations and gifts, free will, what is death, and many more topics.
Christians agree on very little.
Christians agree on very little.
Shroom Jesus said this very clearly.. That a house with strife withon cannot stand... So you recon crhsitians strife but will still stand? Nope, Jesus says ONE SPIRIT, and ONE SPIRIT is one too little for a strife. One spirit cannot fight Himself, espaecially if GOD IS THAT SPIRIT! So no my friend ALL REBORN FROM GOD CANNOT DISAGREE!
Newsflash... Jesus says proof the spirits... Not all spirits that say LORD LORD is Christians... Shroom even Satan looks like an angel of light if he wants too, and he mileads MANY... But not the elect, becasue they know the REAL JESUS, IN THEM!!!
Newsflash... Jesus says proof the spirits... Not all spirits that say LORD LORD is Christians... Shroom even Satan looks like an angel of light if he wants too, and he mileads MANY... But not the elect, becasue they know the REAL JESUS, IN THEM!!!
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everyone should look towards Christ. It doesn't matter if we agree with each other but if we agree with God.
1. people get saved in different ways. the only thing that is similar is that it is THROUGH Christ. People have different sins and strongholds that God must tear down that war against His knowledge. therefore people are cleansed through different trials and need different words at different times until they are mature in Christ.
2. how to stay saved? stay in Jesus. I didn't know there was a debate going on about that one
You're right there are a lot of topics we are not in agreement with but that does not show disunity (or more specifically that one lacks or has MORE of the Holy Spirit then another) so much as different functions and understanding people have about the world and different gifts and talents God gives people to do their WORK in the Body of Christ. Not all are eyes, ears, hands or feet. but all work for the Glory of God.
Morning all
gotta go.
1. people get saved in different ways. the only thing that is similar is that it is THROUGH Christ. People have different sins and strongholds that God must tear down that war against His knowledge. therefore people are cleansed through different trials and need different words at different times until they are mature in Christ.
2. how to stay saved? stay in Jesus. I didn't know there was a debate going on about that one
You're right there are a lot of topics we are not in agreement with but that does not show disunity (or more specifically that one lacks or has MORE of the Holy Spirit then another) so much as different functions and understanding people have about the world and different gifts and talents God gives people to do their WORK in the Body of Christ. Not all are eyes, ears, hands or feet. but all work for the Glory of God.
Morning all
gotta go. 
Every person that has believed upon the righteousness of God through Jesus Christ and not their own righteousness for salvation has been saved by faith through the grace of God, every single sinner, no matter who they are or how they have been raised. We have no premise or foundation in which to judge them or ourselves in relationship to God's imputed righteousness and to salvation that comes by grace through faith. Salvation is totally of God and not of us and we are recipients only of that great salvation that is given to whosoever believes.
I don't care if a person is living in sin as a backslidden believer and is filled with wretchedness. You and I do not judge them, instead we are to minister Christ. If they are living in self-righteousness, we minister the righteousness of God through grace. If they are being obstinate and rebellious we exhort them and if needed we rebuke them, but we do not judge them according to salvation. If they are living in false doctrine we give them sound doctrine and if they do not receive it and continue in false doctrine we admonish them and if need be shun their babbling and avoid them.
Study thoroughly (Titus 1:10-16) and then come back and give us your finding.
I don't care if a person is living in sin as a backslidden believer and is filled with wretchedness. You and I do not judge them, instead we are to minister Christ. If they are living in self-righteousness, we minister the righteousness of God through grace. If they are being obstinate and rebellious we exhort them and if needed we rebuke them, but we do not judge them according to salvation. If they are living in false doctrine we give them sound doctrine and if they do not receive it and continue in false doctrine we admonish them and if need be shun their babbling and avoid them.
Study thoroughly (Titus 1:10-16) and then come back and give us your finding.
everyone should look towards Christ. It doesn't matter if we agree with each other but if we agree with God.
1. people get saved in different ways. the only thing that is similar is that it is THROUGH Christ. People have different sins and strongholds that God must tear down that war against His knowledge. therefore people are cleansed through different trials and need different words at different times until they are mature in Christ.
2. how to stay saved? stay in Jesus. I didn't know there was a debate going on about that one
You're right there are a lot of topics we are not in agreement with but that does not show disunity (or more specifically that one lacks or has MORE of the Holy Spirit then another) so much as different functions and understanding people have about the world and different gifts and talents God gives people to do their WORK in the Body of Christ. Not all are eyes, ears, hands or feet. but all work for the Glory of God.
Morning all gotta go.
1. people get saved in different ways. the only thing that is similar is that it is THROUGH Christ. People have different sins and strongholds that God must tear down that war against His knowledge. therefore people are cleansed through different trials and need different words at different times until they are mature in Christ.
2. how to stay saved? stay in Jesus. I didn't know there was a debate going on about that one
You're right there are a lot of topics we are not in agreement with but that does not show disunity (or more specifically that one lacks or has MORE of the Holy Spirit then another) so much as different functions and understanding people have about the world and different gifts and talents God gives people to do their WORK in the Body of Christ. Not all are eyes, ears, hands or feet. but all work for the Glory of God.
Morning all
gotta go.
The right foot does not go one direction and the left foot another, that just does not work, but the HEAD TAKES is all to DO WHAT GOD WANTS!... The Bible says it beautiful...
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Nan be careful you are beginning to sound peculiar.... I would LOVE it is I am peculiar becasue Jesus purified me UNTO Himself! So let me ask.... Jesus please make me one of these peculiar people, Amen!
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Matthew 12
33 “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. 34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[g] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
wolves are able to speak as if they are righteous but God sees there hearts and proclaims to His children their lies.
James 4
11 Do not speak evil of one another, brethren. He who speaks evil of a brother and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 12 There is one Lawgiver,[d] who is able to save and to destroy. Who are you to judge another?
33 “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. 34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart[g] brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
wolves are able to speak as if they are righteous but God sees there hearts and proclaims to His children their lies.
James 4
11 Do not speak evil of one another, brethren. He who speaks evil of a brother and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 12 There is one Lawgiver,[d] who is able to save and to destroy. Who are you to judge another?
Are you being judgmental while telling others not to? Seems kind of hypocritical does it not?
Judging people for judging????????????????????
Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
Judging people for judging????????????????????
Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
Let's say I am a believer and I have never learned to abide in Christ or have His words abide in me. I have never been taught the word of God on a regular basis but I have trusted Jesus Christ for the cleaning and forgiveness of my sins, as a sinner. Without abiding in Christ and having His word abide in me there can be no fruit unto God but only that which comes from the flesh. It is going to be frustrating for me until I am able to be under the teaching of the word and have the ability to grow with others in the grace and knowledge of Christ.
There are many believers in that situation and have fallen back into sin in many cases because they are not growing and have never learned to abide in Christ. Abiding in Christ is not something that comes natural, it takes a steady intake of the word of God, receiving grace and having the opportunity to apply in the plan of God what we have learned through grace and knowledge of a person, Christ. We should be able to discern this in a believer's life and be able to provide them in the love of God with what they need to get them going in the right direction. This is part of our ministry toward the brethren, one of love and encouragement and not one of condemnation. When they learn and have opportunity to abide in Christ and have His word abide in them, they will bear fruit and that fruit will come from a good tree, one that has been planted by the water of life.
There are many believers in that situation and have fallen back into sin in many cases because they are not growing and have never learned to abide in Christ. Abiding in Christ is not something that comes natural, it takes a steady intake of the word of God, receiving grace and having the opportunity to apply in the plan of God what we have learned through grace and knowledge of a person, Christ. We should be able to discern this in a believer's life and be able to provide them in the love of God with what they need to get them going in the right direction. This is part of our ministry toward the brethren, one of love and encouragement and not one of condemnation. When they learn and have opportunity to abide in Christ and have His word abide in them, they will bear fruit and that fruit will come from a good tree, one that has been planted by the water of life.
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Anandahya, sound doctrine is on its way out for many people, and as it is written many will be seduced. I see that for the most part, many can't endure sound doctrine here.
So when their sound doctrine becomes wickedness it is no longer sound. These are those who will persecute the TRUTH, again and again, even in the name of Jesus.
Going after their lusts, they don't desire sound doctrine, and in NO WAY can they judge it. Defiled consciences, full of wrath and bitterness and hate.
If anyone wants to hear sound doctrine, let them hear the words of Jesus Christ. Neither I, nor you, nor anyone, will be judged by a man's doctrine of his own mind, but by the words of Jesus Christ, which are always sound, and never biased.
May Jesus bless you.
So when their sound doctrine becomes wickedness it is no longer sound. These are those who will persecute the TRUTH, again and again, even in the name of Jesus.
Going after their lusts, they don't desire sound doctrine, and in NO WAY can they judge it. Defiled consciences, full of wrath and bitterness and hate.
If anyone wants to hear sound doctrine, let them hear the words of Jesus Christ. Neither I, nor you, nor anyone, will be judged by a man's doctrine of his own mind, but by the words of Jesus Christ, which are always sound, and never biased.
May Jesus bless you.