Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

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Sheepman

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Hitler versus Judaisers


Hitler wanted OT out of the picture.
He wanted a christianity based on nothing. He wanted a book he could superimpose on the positivity and optimism of man.


Why Hitler feared and banned the book of Esther
Why Luther couldnt grasp it and almoste left it out (as revelation)


Why did Hitler forbade the feast of Purim.?


And why were 10 Nazis hanged on the exact same date at the Nuremberg Trials as the 10 sons of Haman in the book of Esther.


Isnt it amazing that every book of the NT (exept The Revelation of Jesus Christ aka Apocalypse of John etc) is a sermon sprung from and only explaining what was already written and secreted away in the OT.


I think its a really smart plan by God.


When the worldly sustenance is sucked out from this current time.


When times get rough like before ww2.


Those wich are called judaisers now might be the ones who got enough spiritual oil in their lamps.
Im not saying it is so. Just that it might be.


That got enough spiritual food to share with the fainting ones when these signs come up on the earth that will cause mens hearts to fail them.


Its like breaking the bread sharing it with two camps were the veil is done away with (not talking about universalism macroecumenical workings of men)


Many wich are burnmarked as judaisers only seek the abundance in the prophetic meaning and hope, in all things written in the torah and the prophets. Hungry are they, as can be.


This special hunger can cause irritation just like some become when they are hungry for ordinary food. That irritation need to be polished so it dont hurt others. But not quenched. These are warriors as well as us.


But to all kinds of leaders that lead the flock away. They are supposed to know all things needed to be fit for their job. And at least with an open mind to search out the scriptures as in Acts 17:11.


All good gifts are from God.
That could be anything from enjoing great food, possibility to go out hiking, enough money etc and so on; and the Scriptures.


But there are many people that only have their bible as their single joy. Yes thats true. When you lost everything else in this world the Bible becomes huge.


You start digging. Eating. Digesting every single grain falling out of this supernatural piece of collection of papers full of harvest.


And there is a time for every season right?
We can live by much and by little. All through the strenght of Christ. And by loving all the brothers. Yes even loving Peter when he got this strange idea in his beloved head that he wanted badly to cut foreskins. Who had a tendency to fall for grouppressure (or how you say it in real english).


So why feel bad when we dont feel the same intense hunger. Its not the hunger we should leap after but him we are hungry for.


And after one have had a marathonsession with the bible it need be digested. Sometimes over a long duration of time. That doesnt mean we seize praying and digesting his words does it?


There are people that got the whole bible memorized. They dont read it, they just digest it and burp up their wisdom whenever seems fit :)


Of course. Then sayeth satan "What shalt we do now with this piece of crap sitting there with his little bible. Lets make him a legalizer. Lets profane and dry him up and make him fall by pride.


Hallelujah


Thats why its called the body of christ. We need each other so that we do not be consumed in our own position. Home blind. Diffrent parts in one accord.


If we be irritated by words WE are not used to. Let us then correct ourselves instead of accusing brethren to be judaisers. They just wanna suck the marrow of every word that comes from the mouth of the good Lion. Från the carcass of the Strong came forth Honey.


I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. (Gal . 2:21)


But I love the oil pouring down on my used up feet from ALL that is written now that we see the light through the glasses of Him wich is called Love - That would be Jesus Christ.


Torah and the Prophets.
It is written for us. (Paul said it not me)
 
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Tintin

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

First of all, Esther wasn't one of the books that Martin Luther wanted to leave out of the Bible. As a Lutheran, I should know. As for the Nuremberg Trials part of your post, I read something similar in a book I bought. Which I shouldn't have. It ended up being a thoroughly racist book by British Israelist/'Christian' Identity members. Ugh. So I don't know what to think.
 
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Racist book by British Israelist/'Christian' Identity members
Israel vision :(
 

Sheepman

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

First of all, Esther wasn't one of the books that Martin Luther wanted to leave out of the Bible. As a Lutheran, I should know. As for the Nuremberg Trials part of your post, I read something similar in a book I bought. Which I shouldn't have. It ended up being a thoroughly racist book by British Israelist/'Christian' Identity members. Ugh. So I don't know what to think.

I am a former Lutheran. Read all I could by Luther. I Perceive he was very suspicious about Esther
and my sources is Luther himself as well as open records about Nuremberg.

I intend to post the exact sources and quotaions soon.

Thanks for the response!:)
 

tanakh

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

I read that the book of Esther was almost omitted from the Jewish Cannon by a Group of Rabbis that met at Jamnia after the destruction of Jerusalem because it does not contain any direct mention of God. It was only retained because the festival of Purim is centred on it which was a long held tradition. I assume they didnt want to upset their fellow Jews by banning it.
 

PennEd

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

I thought judaizers were those who tried and continue to try and make Christians follow Jewish law before becoming a Christian.

Not someone who studies or proclaims prophecy.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

I am a former Lutheran.
And what are you now??
 

Sheepman

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

And what are you now??
https://youtu.be/7F9R5gT9DAU

But im not on that trees side either.
We are all grafted in into a holy tree by our salva
our salvation Jesus.

Washed clean leaving more and more everyday behind rushing to the
glorious City wich have foundations (book of hebrews)
 
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FreeNChrist

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

https://youtu.be/7F9R5gT9DAU

But im not on that trees side either.
We are all grafted in into a holy tree by our salva
our salvation Jesus.

Washed clean leaving more and more everyday behind rushing to the
glorious City wich have foundations (book of hebrews)
You're being disingenuous and coy. It does not serve your cause well.
 

PennEd

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

I'm havin a little trouble with the broken english. I think some thoughts are getting garbled because of it.
 

Sheepman

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

You're being disingenuous and coy. It does not serve your cause well.
Humor I think is releiving between siblings. But i agree, its hard to show your wellmeaning at such a great distance.
Im sorry. I really am. Didnt mean to sound anything.

The clip is just how I feel myself sometimes. Like an little orch cought up in a huge tree I
sometimes dont understand. And sometimes dont want to understand.

Peace :)

(Not as in John Lennon)
 

Sheepman

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

I'm havin a little trouble with the broken english. I think some thoughts are getting garbled because of it.
Good point bro!
I work on it.
Doing my best.
Thanks for "trying to read it"
 

posthuman

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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

I thought judaizers were those who tried and continue to try and make Christians follow Jewish law before becoming a Christian.

Not someone who studies or proclaims prophecy.
Yes



Many wich are burnmarked as judaisers only seek the abundance in the prophetic meaning and hope, in all things written in the torah and the prophets. Hungry are they, as can be.
Then may they preach the sure hope and mystery of godliness foreshadowed in the ministries of prophets and revealed in Christ!

If we're calling '
Judaizer' anyone who quotes scripture written in BC, there's a problem.
But who is doing that??

i do think that people who do not preach Christ and who only preach the law of the old covenant and deny the new covenant have some serious and obvious doctrinal issues. The '
Judaizer' shoe certainly does fit a few feet, and it is not a compliment.
If they are only issues of omission, that's easily enough rectified -- so what prevents them?


 
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Re: Book of Esther. Feared by Hitler & 10 hanged Nazis at Nuremberg. How could it be?

You know is some denominations, (which are very nice people), will name some of their classes, "The Esther Class".
They don't realize that was not her name.
They also don't realize the pagan roots of that name.
Just sayin'.