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We believe non-Calvinists can be Christian...Starting from Ephesians 2:1-10, man is dead in sin, born sons of wrath by nature. But God in His mercy and love, made us alive together with Christ, because of His irresistible grace. Faith is not a product of man, it's a gift from God. In verse 8 it says by grace through faith you are saved, not of yourselves, it is a gift of God. If faith was from ourselves, we could boast in that performance of our own merit (if you will).
I wish I could manage to understand why people are interested in any man's interpretation of scripture, except a quick check with history to see if leaders led people to or away from God.
There is so much to study and know. I have been following how God used math in creation, for instance how God used the number seven, etc. I have done a study of the kings of Judah, and how they affected the world. So many interesting things, but Calvin leaves me cold. What is his fascination?
There is so much to study and know. I have been following how God used math in creation, for instance how God used the number seven, etc. I have done a study of the kings of Judah, and how they affected the world. So many interesting things, but Calvin leaves me cold. What is his fascination?
CEF... you're really messing this up for me.
I came in here to tease Calvinists and give them a hard time... and now I'm going to have to defend them.
Calvinists, and non-Calvinists, if they are saved, are both in the body of Christ.
That makes us brothers and sisters.
So... let's remember to beat each other to death with some grace and civility.
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I came in here to tease Calvinists and give them a hard time... and now I'm going to have to defend them.
Calvinists, and non-Calvinists, if they are saved, are both in the body of Christ.
That makes us brothers and sisters.
So... let's remember to beat each other to death with some grace and civility.
: )
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Whether you are Calvinists are not we believe that God is in control of salvation.
Are we good there?
Here are a few scriptures concerning SALVATION FROM GOD
Psalms 3:8 tells us, "Salvation belongs to the LORD; may Your blessing be on Your people."
Salvation comes from God and blessings pour out on His believers that all comes from God.
Isaiah 45:21-22 tells us, "Speak up and present your case - yes, let them take counsel together. Who predicted this long ago? Who announced it from ancient times? Was it not I, Yahweh? There is no other God but Me, a righteous God and Savior; there is no one except Me. Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, For I am God, and there is no other."
Look in verse 21 "there is no other God but Me" there is one God and that one God is Jesus Christ not Calvin
Look in verse 22 "turn to Me and be saved" it does not say only the elect will be saved it is an open invitation for anybody.
Jeremiah 3:23 tells us, "Surely, falsehood comes from the hills, commotion from the mountains, but the salvation of Israel is only in the LIGHT red our God."
I'm still missing it where does it say elect salvation it doesn't salvation is for everybody.
Are we good there?
Here are a few scriptures concerning SALVATION FROM GOD
Psalms 3:8 tells us, "Salvation belongs to the LORD; may Your blessing be on Your people."
Salvation comes from God and blessings pour out on His believers that all comes from God.
Isaiah 45:21-22 tells us, "Speak up and present your case - yes, let them take counsel together. Who predicted this long ago? Who announced it from ancient times? Was it not I, Yahweh? There is no other God but Me, a righteous God and Savior; there is no one except Me. Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth, For I am God, and there is no other."
Look in verse 21 "there is no other God but Me" there is one God and that one God is Jesus Christ not Calvin
Look in verse 22 "turn to Me and be saved" it does not say only the elect will be saved it is an open invitation for anybody.
Jeremiah 3:23 tells us, "Surely, falsehood comes from the hills, commotion from the mountains, but the salvation of Israel is only in the LIGHT red our God."
I'm still missing it where does it say elect salvation it doesn't salvation is for everybody.
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SALVATION IN JESUS ALONE
Here is some scripture concerning the above
Acts 4:11-12 tells us, "This Jesus is with the stone rejected by your builders, which has become the cornerstone. There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to people, and we must be saved by it"
Again, no were in these verses does it say only the elect have salvation. All have salvation according to my beliefs and my Bible which is my instruction book. Again, it talks about their is no other God. there is only one God and that is Jesus Christ not Calvin.
Romans 10:9 tells us, "If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved"
This is meant for everybody. Everybody can be saved if wanted to, you just have to come to the Lord.
Here is some scripture concerning the above
Acts 4:11-12 tells us, "This Jesus is with the stone rejected by your builders, which has become the cornerstone. There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to people, and we must be saved by it"
Again, no were in these verses does it say only the elect have salvation. All have salvation according to my beliefs and my Bible which is my instruction book. Again, it talks about their is no other God. there is only one God and that is Jesus Christ not Calvin.
Romans 10:9 tells us, "If you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved"
This is meant for everybody. Everybody can be saved if wanted to, you just have to come to the Lord.
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John 6:44 tells us, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day"
When you get saved you feel God tugging at your heart to accept Christ. We have to as believers pray for God to touch those lives that are not saved. You can also pray and ask God to save you and He will. Everybody at some point in time will feel that tugging at the heart. If they don't we need to pray for them, yes that is something that only God can do.
When you get saved you feel God tugging at your heart to accept Christ. We have to as believers pray for God to touch those lives that are not saved. You can also pray and ask God to save you and He will. Everybody at some point in time will feel that tugging at the heart. If they don't we need to pray for them, yes that is something that only God can do.
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Unless God pulls you, draws you, drags you to Christ, you will not want to come to Christ. Only someone born again can see the kingdom of God (John 3:3), let alone enter it (John 3:5).
I believe you would understand more of these five points if you study them, find them in scripture (which you will), and learn about it.
I believe you would understand more of these five points if you study them, find them in scripture (which you will), and learn about it.
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No, thank you I will need more in order to study deeper what you told me is not good enough. Some people want to come to Christ without that tugging at the heart. Spread the word and people will see that it is better and then God will tug at their hearts. God tugs at their hearts to let them know they are ready.