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rapturewatch

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Can someone who's heard the Gospel get saved after the rapture?​
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Anyone who tells people that after the Rapture folks who have previously heard the gospel message cannot be saved is basically saying that nearly all the folks who are left behind lack the ability to receive Christ. There are not very many people who haven't heard the gospel message. Scripture tells us that "multitudes" will be saved during the Tribulation. When God pours out the plagues of the Tribulation, the Bible says, "they repented not," indicating they could repent.​
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"And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not, they repented not, to give him glory. And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds" (Revelation 16:9-11, KJV).

 
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jimmydiggs

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I've missed the rapture at least five times now, so this is very pertinent information.
 
p_rehbein

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I can't give you much on this one because I believe that when Jesus returns to claim His Church, the dead in Him shall rise first, and we who remain will be changed in the twinkling of an eye and rise to meet Him in the air, and He will take us Home with Him.

That is IT! Time will be no more...........the judgment will commence and the wheat will be separated from the chafe as Scripture says.........but, that's what I believe, others do and will disagree
 
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If one supports a pre-tribulation rapture of the church then the logical following conclusion would be that yes souls will be saved during the tribulation. It has been suggested that there will be 144,000 Jewish preachers preaching Christ to those who remain on the earth during this time. Some will be saved during the tribulation period and many of these will be slain. The remaining Jews will see Christ return and receive Him as their Savior. This then begins the theocratic reign of Christ upon the earth. Controversial issue with many differing opinions to say the least.

For the cause of Christ
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Mattithyah 24:29-30, "Immediately, but after the tribulation of those days will the sun be darkened, and the moon will not give her light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven; and then will all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

1 Corinthians 15:52, "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed."
 
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PlainWord

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rapturewatch said:
Can someone who's heard the Gospel get saved after the rapture?​
Anyone who tells people that after the Rapture folks who have previously heard the gospel message cannot be saved is basically saying that nearly all the folks who are left behind lack the ability to receive Christ. There are not very many people who haven't heard the gospel message. Scripture tells us that "multitudes" will be saved during the Tribulation. When God pours out the plagues of the Tribulation, the Bible says, "they repented not," indicating they could repent.​
"And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not, they repented not, to give him glory. And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, and blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds" (Revelation 16:9-11, KJV).
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First, there is NO RAPTURE of the Church in that the Church is flown off to heaven before the Tribulation. Nowhere in the Bible is this taught. The "Rapture" is a man-made fantasy and violates the Word of God as 1) nowhere in the Bible are we taught the Lord returns before the Tribulation, 2) nowhere are we taught the Lord returns two more times and 3) nowhere are we taught that anyone who is alive will be taken to heaven to wait out the Tribulation. But this is a bigger topic.

The timing of the Lord's return is crystal clear, it is AFTER the Tribulation of those days.

Mat 24:29:"Immediately after the tribulation of those days..."

Mark 13:24:"But in those days, after that tribulation..."

2 Thes 2:3:"for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed."

Rev 19 describes the Lord's return to be at the Battle of Armageddon which is the 7th seal, 7th trumpet - the tail end of the Tribulation.

But to answer your question, YES, they can be saved providing they don't accept the Mark of the Beast and that they DO accept the Lord.

Rev 14:7-13 describes the 3 Proclaiming Angels still warning the earth to, "Fear God and worship Him" and not to, "Accept the Mark of the Beast or to worship him." We are also taught that those who make it through the Tribulation will be saved.
 
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KJV chapter 20 verse 4 And I saw thrones,and they sat upon them and judgment was given unto them:and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,and for the word of God,and which had not worshipped the beast,neither his image,neither had received his mark upon their foreheads,or in their hands,and they lived and reigned with christ a thousand yrs. Now what am I missing here this will be part of tribulation, they are already killing Christians in other parts of the world and persecuting them.We should prepare for anything always in prayer,asking for the Lords protection.
 
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PlainWord

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There is one more point to make. Anyone can be saved IF the accept the Lord before they die. The Lord may kill them and if He does, then it is too late, but if they do not accept the Mark of the Beast (those who do will be killed anyway) or commit the unpardonable sin (deny Christ before the Anti-Christ) then yes, you can be saved up until the Lord returns at the end of the Tribulation.

After the Lord returns and you are not killed, you can still be ultimately saved but you will miss the chance to receive a glorified body and escape death. You can accept the Lord when you see him arrive but His blood on the cross is no longer adequate to save you, you must then follow the new Laws that the Lord will establish when He sets up His millennial kingdom.
 
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p_rehbein said:
I can't give you much on this one because I believe that when Jesus returns to claim His Church, the dead in Him shall rise first, and we who remain will be changed in the twinkling of an eye and rise to meet Him in the air, and He will take us Home with Him.

That is IT! Time will be no more...........the judgment will commence and the wheat will be separated from the chafe as Scripture says.........but, that's what I believe, others do and will disagree
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Friend, it doesn't matter if others disagree. Scripture supports your belief. Praise God
 
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childofgod87

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Hizikyah said:
Mattithyah 24:29-30, "Immediately, but after the tribulation of those days will the sun be darkened, and the moon will not give her light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven; and then will all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

1 Corinthians 15:52, "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed."
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Teach it Hizikyah! Amen!
 
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12tribes1King

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1 Corinthians 15:
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1 Corinthians 15:50-53 As for verse 50 when you receive the Holy Spirit is it through flesh and blood (corruption)? of course not it is through faith in Christ and comes in through your spirit (incorruptible) that belongs to God not your flesh btw, that is a piece of the "kingdom of heaven" that you inherit and that's what Paul is saying here. The rest of Corinthians here is talking about one singular event, not two. Those that are alive will not fall to sleep(die) but will instantly be changed as they meet Christ in the clouds at His coming with those who have already fallen to sleep (died).
1Thessalonians 4:
15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Once again, this is one event that will happen instantaneously, those who sleep (dead in Christ) will fly right up into the clouds out of their graves, and immediately after that, those that believe, that are left here in the flesh, on earth will fly right up into the clouds to join them as well.
Revelation 22:
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Notice that right before Christ returns (one time and one event,like a thief in the night, watch!) that He says "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still"? Not one unbelieving or worker of iniquity is allowed to repent after He says this. So how will the Jews as stated in the past, or anyone else be able to repent after this? He comes quickly once, to redeem His children. Watch!
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Are these the ones you say will repent? Notice that they will never enter into the Kingdom of God and are without because they are unjust and unbelieving still? They will remain that way forever. They will all die at His coming. Their bodies will be like dung on the earth for a thousand years. Then after a thousand years they will be raised up, judged and thrown in hell with the devil and all the rest of his servants. Then death will be swallowed up in victory. That's why John said repent!, when he prepared the way for our LORD, He didn't say hey people watch for a tribulation then repent and you will be fine.....
Was Job raptured out of his time of tribulation? No
Was Joseph raptured out of the pit or prison? No
Was Daniel raptured out of the lion's den? No
Was King David raptured out of all his tribulation? No
Exodus 7:18 through 12:30 records the Israelites including Moses,were in Egypt for all ten plagues of God's wrath did God rapture them? No
Was Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego raptured out of the firery furnace? No
Was Yahoshua (Jesus) or any of the Apostles raptured out of their persecution? No
Was Paul raptured out of all his tribulations (2 Corithians 11:23-27)? No
No rapture, Just much tribulation just like me and you face daily. Will not all of these people be in heaven in the great congregation?
This was the purpose of introducing this bunk bologna theory, to lie to people to let them think they have plenty of time to repent, when they won't be able to do that, after our LORD says "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."
and it stands in direct conflict with sound doctrine and the warning that our LORD gave to us. Watch!

To all you folks who grew up in the 70's and 80's, or earlier here in the U.S., you will recognize this song, to those who grew up after that, learn this song.

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My bologna has a first name it's R-a-p-t-u-r-e
my bologna has a second name it's T-h-e-o-r-y
Oh,.. I have to eat it everyday... and if you ask me why
I'll say.... so the devil can trick you every day
so that he can screw up the perfect way!
 
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