Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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Magenta

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Salvation means rescued from pain or danger. Most forms of rescue are not from death, and few
like Enoch have been rescued from death. My two cents. transmute them to gold if you can.
Those who place their trust in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ are reconciled to
God, and escape the second death, attaining to life ever after, passing from death to life.



John 5:24-25

From 2 Corinthians 5:17 and Romans 6:13
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Those who place their trust in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ are reconciled to
God, and escape the second death, attaining to life ever after, passing from death to life.



John 5:24-25

From 2 Corinthians 5:17 and Romans 6:13
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Admittedly, I don't agree with your interpretation of the verses. For example, it is too late for me to be the messiah's audience in John 5:24-25.
 

Magenta

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I don't agree with your interpretation of the verses. For example, it is too late for me to be the messiah's audience in John 5:24-25.
It wasn't too late for me. I heard His voice, and eventually, responded.


John 10:27-28
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1 John 5:4 ὅτι πᾶν τὸ γεγεννημένον ἐκ τοῦ θεοῦ νικᾷ τὸν κόσμον· καὶ αὕτη ἐστὶν ἡ νίκη ἡ νικήσασα τὸν κόσμον ἡ πίστις ἡμῶν
Interesting, but not about progenies of the God.
 
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[Romans 8:15-16 KJV] 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children (τεκνα not υιος) of God:

The spirit of adoption is about being translated like Enoch. My rapture theory is that it happened long ago.
 
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I am prepared for the Jew and Christians most of them to be wrong about the "eminent return of a final messiah". The messiah has already come; thank God the afterlife exists, even though Hades could be a part of it.
 

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I am prepared for the Jew and Christians most of them to be wrong about the "eminent return of a final messiah".
The messiah has already come; thank God the afterlife exists, even though Hades could be a part of it.
Death is not life.
 

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But without Death, God doesn't give the afterlife.
Faith in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ is the prerequisite for life ever after. At the end
of this age following the resurrection of all, those devoid of faith pass into the second death.
 
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Faith in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ is the prerequisite for life ever after.
It isn't a prerequisite; it is a guarantee because you wouldn't be stuck in yourself. Not everyone is required to be as good as he is, or at least, not at first. Is there a need for torture porn in heaven?
 

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It isn't a prerequisite; it is a guarantee because you wouldn't be stuck in yourself. Not everyone is required to be as good as he is, or at least, not at first. Is there a need for torture porn in heaven?
It is a prerequisite.

pre·req·ui·site
[prēˈrekwəzət]
noun

  1. a thing that is required as a prior condition for something else to happen or exist:

Hebrews 11:6
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It is a prerequisite.

pre·req·ui·site
[prēˈrekwəzət]
noun

  1. a thing that is required as a prior condition for something else to happen or exist:

Hebrews 11:6
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The problem is that it has nothing to do with the messiah, and it is also true. If you don't trust, you won't obey.
 

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The problem is that it has nothing to do with the messiah, and it is also true. If you don't trust, you won't obey.
If you have no faith in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ, you pass into the second death, which is everlasting.