Cavemen?
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Beyond spiritual blindness of the unregenerate, which is enough, the difference between sinful people and people in Christ is that the sinful person only sees and hears what he or she wants to believe, having themselves on the throne of their lives. They lean on their own understanding, cannot possibly understand the mysteries of God. But those of faith believe the word of God and seek the truth, regardless our own prejudices, whether we even like what the Lord has done, said or not. This makes us worlds apart and irreconcilable with the unregenerate, just as there is no communion with Satan.
Proverbs 3:5-7 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Proverbs 3:5-7 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
"Beyond spiritual blindness of the unregenerate, which is enough, the difference between sinful people and people in Christ is that the sinful person only sees and hears what he or she wants to believe, having themselves on the throne of their lives. They lean on their own understanding, cannot possibly understand the mysteries of God. But those of faith believe the word of God and seek the truth, regardless our own prejudices, whether we even like what the Lord has done, said or not. This makes us worlds apart and irreconcilable with the unregenerate, just as there is no communion with Satan."
I really like this presentation of the truth above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4PuaQsFyLs
I really like this presentation of the truth above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4PuaQsFyLs
Because there is not such a thing in existence that is credible.
If you think so, please expound upon it.
And don't say it's in the Bible. It's not.
If you think it's Ussher's, just say so.
If you think it's somebody else's just say so.
I'm not a dentist, don't make this like pulling teeth.
Although I will readily admit that DNA has been found in teeth that clearly dates man as much more than 6,000 years on this earth.
If you think so, please expound upon it.
And don't say it's in the Bible. It's not.
If you think it's Ussher's, just say so.
If you think it's somebody else's just say so.
I'm not a dentist, don't make this like pulling teeth.
Although I will readily admit that DNA has been found in teeth that clearly dates man as much more than 6,000 years on this earth.
The DNA you look at is not the DNA of humans created in the image of God about 6000 years ago ....impossible
.... and the genealogical records of the Talmud are there in scripture from Adam, to Noah, to Abraham, to David, and to Jesus Christ .... 4000 years
The next 2000 are closing to His second intervention
Could be before this day is over
Make certain that you are ready for this
.... and the genealogical records of the Talmud are there in scripture from Adam, to Noah, to Abraham, to David, and to Jesus Christ .... 4000 years
The next 2000 are closing to His second intervention
Could be before this day is over
Make certain that you are ready for this
I did not say that a timeline from the genealogies in the Bible can not be developed.
Obviously they have been by numerous individuals, the most known being that of Bishop Ussher. His timeline was printed in the King James Bible for more than 200 years. The date 4004 BC was printed right next to the verses in Genesis 1.
Go to the Christian Book Store in your neighborhood and check out the Bibles.
Do you see 4004 BC printed next to the verses in Genesis 1?
No? Why not?
What I said was is that a credible timeline can not be determined from the genealogies in the Bible.
I might add that there are discrepancies in the genealogies in various texts, for example between the Septuagint and the Masoretic.
So what I am asking you, specifically, is what timeline from the genealogies are you using? Ussher's, somebody else's, or your own?
If your own, please play show and tell.
Do you understand the question?
Obviously they have been by numerous individuals, the most known being that of Bishop Ussher. His timeline was printed in the King James Bible for more than 200 years. The date 4004 BC was printed right next to the verses in Genesis 1.
Go to the Christian Book Store in your neighborhood and check out the Bibles.
Do you see 4004 BC printed next to the verses in Genesis 1?
No? Why not?
What I said was is that a credible timeline can not be determined from the genealogies in the Bible.
I might add that there are discrepancies in the genealogies in various texts, for example between the Septuagint and the Masoretic.
So what I am asking you, specifically, is what timeline from the genealogies are you using? Ussher's, somebody else's, or your own?
If your own, please play show and tell.
Do you understand the question?
No, the one that speaks first to defend himself, giving himself away,LOL!!
Somebody asked me a question in the post just after yours.
This is a discussion forum.
If I am answering and asking questions, it would appear that I am discussing the issues being presented.
Get it? Discussion forum - discuss the issues.
So, what do you think about the issues being presented?
When do you think humans first appeared on the scene?
When do you think Neanderthals existed?
Why do you think Neanderthals became extinct?
Why weren't Neanderthals farmers?
Your post reminded me of poop for some reason.
You don't need a plow to farm. Just a hoe.
Neanderthals made tools, but not hoes.
But Neanderthals did not farm, according to the article I cite. Please take note that the Neanderthal poop is 50,000 years old. So then, one might reasonably conclude that Neanderthals existed 50,000 years ago?
Were Neanderthals On A Paleo Diet? Oldest Human Poop Tells Us
You don't need a plow to farm. Just a hoe.
Neanderthals made tools, but not hoes.
But Neanderthals did not farm, according to the article I cite. Please take note that the Neanderthal poop is 50,000 years old. So then, one might reasonably conclude that Neanderthals existed 50,000 years ago?
Were Neanderthals On A Paleo Diet? Oldest Human Poop Tells Us
Why are you so hung up with Ussher? God Himself has spoken. Fear and respect for the one and only true God is the beginning of wisdom. Lack thereof is the end of it. Sorry if this hurts your pride, but why mince words? Your eternally soul is at stake. We don't want you to go to hell. You are just kicking against reality in it's purest form. You are accountable for what you have heard from these people on this day. Do you really want to waste the rest of your life blowing smoke, or do you want to take this opportunity to bow down to Jesus Christ the King right now? You can do so sooner, or you will do so later. Your choice. Choose wisely, but choose soon.
Why should I believe in Neanderthals at all?
I've read up on this scientific community you believe so much in. Do you remember the missing link skull that was believed genuine for decades only to find out it was a fake?
Who funds the scientific community? Whoever pays for the scientists' free ride usually gets what he wants...... including writing history.
For example...... the FDA, with all of it's main positions been filled by leaders in the pharmaceutical industry have fought against natural herbal medicine to the point that doctors won't prescribe it. Those same doctors are brainwashed to believe that lab-made medicine is the only kind to prescribe. In other words, the FDA rewrote history for the almighty dollar.
How can you possibly believe ANY business-controlled, government-controlled scientific community to be honest & tell the truth?
Who in their right mind would believe money-biased atheist scientists over the Word of God?
There's my thoughts on it...... you got what you asked for.
I've read up on this scientific community you believe so much in. Do you remember the missing link skull that was believed genuine for decades only to find out it was a fake?
Who funds the scientific community? Whoever pays for the scientists' free ride usually gets what he wants...... including writing history.
For example...... the FDA, with all of it's main positions been filled by leaders in the pharmaceutical industry have fought against natural herbal medicine to the point that doctors won't prescribe it. Those same doctors are brainwashed to believe that lab-made medicine is the only kind to prescribe. In other words, the FDA rewrote history for the almighty dollar.
How can you possibly believe ANY business-controlled, government-controlled scientific community to be honest & tell the truth?
Who in their right mind would believe money-biased atheist scientists over the Word of God?
There's my thoughts on it...... you got what you asked for.
Below is a pic of a Australopithecus afarensis (Lucy) skull. While it may have walked upright, there is controversy over how the pelvis fragments were assembled; Ardipithecus: Ape or Ancestor? - Archaeology Magazine Archive
As far as I'm concerned, if this is the closest example they claim as a missing link, they need to keep looking for something that at least has a forehead. This skull looks like an ape to me.
As far as I'm concerned, if this is the closest example they claim as a missing link, they need to keep looking for something that at least has a forehead. This skull looks like an ape to me.
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Which came first, the theory or the skull? *heehee* Seriously though, I love to read about every aspect of science. I don't have a problem with studying theories. I have a few of my own. I also have been studying the Bible and walking with the Lord since 1978 and believe that God created the heavens and the earth.
Having said that, what is the argument on this thread? Is this about whether or not cavemen existed? Or is this a God vs. evolution debate?
Having said that, what is the argument on this thread? Is this about whether or not cavemen existed? Or is this a God vs. evolution debate?
Then there is this really weird fact that humans and Chimps share not only over 90% of functional DNA, but we share thousands of DNA sequences called "pseudogenes" that are from ancient retrovirus infections. In fact, they are shared between other apes, but they are the closest with the Chimpanzees and Humans.
Welkin E. Johnson and John M. Coffin
1999 "Constructing primate phylogenies from ancient retrovirus sequences" PNAS 1999 96 (18) 10254-10260;
Now you can read that paper, and if you can refute it with real evidence you will be published. Until then, it proved humans share our ancestors with the other great apes.
That graphic looks to me like a reconstructed modle of an early Australopithecus. Probably an afarensis, or even one of the older ones. The popular news article you linked to was about Ardipithecus, a much older human ancestor. The most contested topic was the angle of the big toe. The only Ardipithecus pelvis is also still argued over. The importance there is that the origin of human ancestors has been mostly focused on up-right (obligate bipedal) walking. Was Ardipithecus 6 million years ago an up-right walker? We know that the Australopithecus 2 million years later were.
Why can't you guys read?
Why can't you guys read?
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There's always one side debunking the other, even with the human chromosome fusion that supposedly separates us from chimps; Human Chromosome Fusion Debunked | Human Genetics, Human Origins, Human-Primate DNA | Designed DNA
This is the bottom line for me; "Not one change of species into another is on record . . we cannot prove that a single species has been changed."—Charles Darwin, My Life and Letters.
This is the bottom line for me; "Not one change of species into another is on record . . we cannot prove that a single species has been changed."—Charles Darwin, My Life and Letters.