Christian Truth or Antichrist Deception?

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lesjude

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A person with charisma stepped on a platform, stood behind the lectern, and gave this moving speech. Is this Christian or antichrist? Would this speech be received by Christians in America? Is a similar message already being received?


"MY LORD AND SAVIOR . . . IN THE BOUNDLESS LOVE AS A CHRISTIAN . . . HE HAD TO SHED HIS BLOOD UPON THE CROSS. My feelings as a Christian point me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them. This is God's truth! He was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.


"When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand
years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people is plundered and exploited."
 
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Ariel82

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anti....

2 Corinthians 11:3-4

New King James Version (NKJV)

3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity[a] that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!




Romans 2:27-29

New King James Version (NKJV)

27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law? 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
 
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kenisyes

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As a fighter against the Jewish religion, he LOST. They killed Him, as I recall. That's not the kind of a role model you want to recommend to a would-be soldier. Not only is this unScriptural, it's just plain stupid!
 
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I am sure this man has scripture to support his view, from a non-approved bible of the church [I speak for my church]
 

crossnote

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Yeshua surrounded Himself with Jews (disciples) to fight Jews?
He came to destroy the works of the devil one of which was a false rabbinical system which had usurped Moses' authority.
Our weapons are the Word and prayer.
 
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Yeshua surrounded Himself with Jews (disciples) to fight Jews?
He came to destroy the works of the devil one of which was a false rabbinical system which had usurped Moses' authority.
Our weapons are the Word and prayer.
Crossnote I've never heard he came to destroy the false rabbinical system that had usurped Moses authority.

I do not know if you are joking or not.
 

tribesman

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A person with charisma stepped on a platform, stood behind the lectern, and gave this moving speech. Is this Christian or antichrist? Would this speech be received by Christians in America? Is a similar message already being received?


"MY LORD AND SAVIOR . . . IN THE BOUNDLESS LOVE AS A CHRISTIAN . . . HE HAD TO SHED HIS BLOOD UPON THE CROSS. My feelings as a Christian point me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them. This is God's truth! He was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.


"When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand
years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people is plundered and exploited."
Maybe you should tell people that this speech was made by Adolph Hitler (born RC)?

Religious views of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <-link

Q follows: was Hitler a christian?
 
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lesjude

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Most Christians, about 99%, received it and followed him to the end. Many US Christians receive this message today with some variation of course. Nationalism covered with 'Christianity' is just another false religious cult which supplies Satan with much entertainment and blood sacrifice.
 
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Maybe you should tell people that this speech was made by Adolph Hitler (born RC)?

Religious views of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <-link

Q follows: was Hitler a christian?
What made you post it, the fact that he was Hitler or Roman Christian?

I'm guessing being christian had nothing to do with it!

Stalin went to college to be a Protestant Christian minister. He became president of Russia and time after time had millions murdered.

David Berkowitz (Corbis) called the SON OF SAM, murdered more than 10 women. The newspaper said "He called himself a born again Christian"


Sampson Kanderayi, a mass murderer called The Ax Killer, killed more than 30 people. The newspaper reported "he did it to appease evil spirits." He was a Christian
 

Bookends

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Crossnote I've never heard he came to destroy the false rabbinical system that had usurped Moses authority.

I do not know if you are joking or not.
70AD, he used the Roman army to render His righteous judgment on them.
 
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In 70AD Jesus made Roman army to kill them?
 
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lesjude

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What made you post it, the fact that he was Hitler or Roman Christian?

I'm guessing being christian had nothing to do with it!

Stalin went to college to be a Protestant Christian minister. He became president of Russia and time after time had millions murdered.

David Berkowitz (Corbis) called the SON OF SAM, murdered more than 10 women. The newspaper said "He called himself a born again Christian"


Sampson Kanderayi, a mass murderer called The Ax Killer, killed more than 30 people. The newspaper reported "he did it to appease evil spirits." He was a Christian
I posted because US Christians are blindly following the same sort of message today which has resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths of innocent people in illegal wars of aggression promoted by fear and hatred of Islam. It is SIN and will no doubt come home to roost. Or what goes around comes around. Or Matthew 7:12.
 
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Abiding

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I posted because US Christians are blindly following the same sort of message today which has resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths of innocent people in illegal wars of aggression promoted by fear and hatred of Islam. It is SIN and will not doubt come home to roost. Or what goes around comes around. Or Matthew 7:12.

Yup Yup Yup
 
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nathan3

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Hitler ? : To bad He forgot about the love your enemies part.
 

tribesman

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What made you post it, the fact that he was Hitler or Roman Christian?

I'm guessing being christian had nothing to do with it!

Stalin went to college to be a Protestant Christian minister. He became president of Russia and time after time had millions murdered.

David Berkowitz (Corbis) called the SON OF SAM, murdered more than 10 women. The newspaper said "He called himself a born again Christian"


Sampson Kanderayi, a mass murderer called The Ax Killer, killed more than 30 people. The newspaper reported "he did it to appease evil spirits." He was a Christian
I had no intention to attack roman catholics by stating the fact that Hitler was born and raised such. Just wanted to underline he was not raised an atheist or a pagan. As for Stalin I think he did studies to become a priest in the orthodox church, being born into that tradition. Anyways...I think lesjude's questions are highly relevant, though I might not necessarily agree with all his answers to them.
 

zone

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Most Christians, about 99%, received it and followed him to the end. Many US Christians receive this message today with some variation of course. Nationalism covered with 'Christianity' is just another false religious cult which supplies Satan with much entertainment and blood sacrifice.
ya...let's go become a subversive superstitious gnostic BARN CULT.
way better cult.
 

zone

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Hitler was theosophist posing as a catholic.
 

crossnote

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Crossnote I've never heard he came to destroy the false rabbinical system that had usurped Moses authority.

I do not know if you are joking or not.
No joke. You know he came to destroy the works of the devil of which the false rabbinical system was a part...

But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor! Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold? And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty. Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift? Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon. And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
(Mat 23:13-33)

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zone

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yes....the Old Covenant Curses eventually came down.
just like God said they would.
every one.

there's only One Way.
 
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Tintin

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LesJude, 99 percent of Christians, eh? I'd love to know where you got your 'facts'.