Christians HATE because they don't really know God.

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MaggieMye

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In reference to the thread "Why Christians hate gays", I am here to tell you that REAL Christians do NOT HATE any people at all. REAL Christians see that all of mankind is made in the image of God and KNOW that God died for each and every person. What God hates is sin according to His written word. He hates idolatry...and almost every type of sin is based in idolatry. It is the loving of that abominable behavior, action, or type of thinking MORE than what God says about it in His word. THat is idolatry! He hates glutony, fornication, lying, homosexuality, murder, fear...the list goes on! He hates these things because every single one of them keeps every one of us FROM HIM. Being a HOLY God, He cannot be in the presence of sin! It is of our own choosing to speak, act or believe in contrast to His written word. He is a just God; He has laid down the requirements that we are to follow in order to be in His presence...and to be allowed into His Kingdom. And us not being able to be in His presence makes Him angry! It is the SIN He hates, not the person.
"Christians" that hate the people that sin are falling FAR short of the character of Christ!!! Have they read the Word of God? Did they miss the part where Jesus...God HIMSELF, sat and ate with known sinners?? Did they read where Jesus said that He did not come for the righteous, but for the LOST??
Every person that purposes to practice a form of sin that is mentioned in the written Word of God is CHOOSING to deny God's love for them. It is the literal spiritual suicide of His children! How would you feel if your own child was constantly doing things that made it so they could never be around you??

Christians that HATE, are, IMO, not true believers at all. Why? Because a TRUE follower of Jesus...someone that purposes to read HIs word, OBEY His word, DO His word, has studied the Book to know the Character of God...to know the why of His 'rules and regulations' (as the world puts it). They understand that the devil will use any and every opportunity to bring sin into a person's life so that they cannot be in the presence of the Lover of Their Soul. A TRUE Christian walks in forgiveness and compassion, praying for those that are caught in the deceitful web of lies that causes any person to believe contrary to His Word and buy into idolatry.
ANY "Christian" that holds hate in their heart toward another human being is nothing more than a Pharisee and is full of false religion. That they are "Christian" is, in truth, a falicy...an affront to the Holy Spirit. They are still lost in all their religious and pious behaviors....attending church, tithing, even doing ministry! If they hate, they sin themselves. And no one that sins [purposely or knowingly] is in or can enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Maggie
 

GOP

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Peace be with you Madam in JESUS' NAME.
Good message and GOD blesses you.
Yes, GOD hate sin and not the person. For example, GOD hate a lying tongue. We can see that GOD hate the tongue that lies and not the person.
As Christians we have no right to hate anyone. We must love everyone but hate sin. Sin is what we hate and not the person who sinned.
Again, we have no right to hold an offence against anyone. W e must forgive all those who have hurt us.
Thank you Madam for sharing this message with us all in JESUS' NAME.
 

CherieR

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He that loves not knows not God, for God is love. Beloved let us love one another. 1 John 4:7-8
 
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Ok....ill be the elephant in the room and say that I don't hate not only because it's a waste of my emotional energy but mainly because God will handle everyone when the time comes.
 
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I'll be the elephant in the room and say the obvious...

"Where's my cage? This room has been empty for SIX years.!"

This was resurrected as a chance to preach to someone who hasn't been on this site in 13 months.
 
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Ugly

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I'll be the elephant in the room and say the obvious...

"Where's my cage? This room has been empty for SIX years.!"

This was resurrected as a chance to preach to someone who hasn't been on this site in 13 months.
I'm amazed GOP actually acknowledged another user at all. Usually all he does is make preachy posts and ignore people.
 

GOP

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My dear lovely brother, peace be with you.
Good morning.
A blessed Sunday and a lovely week for you and your family in JESUS' NAME.
Sir, I don't ignored people as you said. What some don't know is that, As a Child of GOD, you don't respond to everything you hear or see because you walk by faith not by sight. JESUS our LORD, did not respond to all questions HE was asked. Does this means that HE was ignoring people? The answer is "NO".

GOD bless you Sir and have a glorious year in JESUS' NAME.


I'm amazed GOP actually acknowledged another user at all. Usually all he does is make preachy posts and ignore people.
 
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My dear lovely brother, peace be with you.
Good morning.
A blessed Sunday and a lovely week for you and your family in JESUS' NAME.
Sir, I don't ignored people as you said. What some don't know is that, As a Child of GOD, you don't respond to everything you hear or see because you walk by faith not by sight. JESUS our LORD, did not respond to all questions HE was asked. Does this means that HE was ignoring people? The answer is "NO".

GOD bless you Sir and have a glorious year in JESUS' NAME.
The first thing Jesus did in ministry was go to a big wedding feast. Whereas he did spend up to 40 days away from people, most of the time we see him eating at someone's house, needing a relatively big hill to preach on so as to have enough room for everyone who came to him, walking down roads with gobs of people following him, and generally speaking being followed around by 12 guys, plus hundreds of disciples, and occasional family members so family members could see their husbands and sons again.

In contrast to how Jesus did it. You pop up 2-5 times a week, post something that may or may not have any bearing on the gospel at all, once more God himself, then flitter away until your post disappears. And in that case, then you come back to respond to your own post again to renew top spot for it.

So, please don't pretend you're doing what Jesus did. You're really not. He interacted. You seem to think you're a purveyor of rather long-winded fortune cookies, as the only means to enlighten everyone else's life.

If I bother at all, I end up perplexed by what you write or why you write it. Even here. Really? Not like Ugly only shows up here once a year, so why offer him a glorious year? What does that even mean? And his name, (for better or worse lol), is Ugly, so why call him sir? And why are you blessing his family? Do you know his family? Very sad that you can't honestly talk to anyone in two year's time.
 

DiscipleDave

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In reference to the thread "Why Christians hate gays", I am here to tell you that REAL Christians do NOT HATE any people at all. REAL Christians see that all of mankind is made in the image of God and KNOW that God died for each and every person. What God hates is sin according to His written word. He hates idolatry...and almost every type of sin is based in idolatry. It is the loving of that abominable behavior, action, or type of thinking MORE than what God says about it in His word. THat is idolatry! He hates glutony, fornication, lying, homosexuality, murder, fear...the list goes on! He hates these things because every single one of them keeps every one of us FROM HIM. Being a HOLY God, He cannot be in the presence of sin! It is of our own choosing to speak, act or believe in contrast to His written word. He is a just God; He has laid down the requirements that we are to follow in order to be in His presence...and to be allowed into His Kingdom. And us not being able to be in His presence makes Him angry! It is the SIN He hates, not the person.
"Christians" that hate the people that sin are falling FAR short of the character of Christ!!! Have they read the Word of God? Did they miss the part where Jesus...God HIMSELF, sat and ate with known sinners?? Did they read where Jesus said that He did not come for the righteous, but for the LOST??
Every person that purposes to practice a form of sin that is mentioned in the written Word of God is CHOOSING to deny God's love for them. It is the literal spiritual suicide of His children! How would you feel if your own child was constantly doing things that made it so they could never be around you??

Christians that HATE, are, IMO, not true believers at all. Why? Because a TRUE follower of Jesus...someone that purposes to read HIs word, OBEY His word, DO His word, has studied the Book to know the Character of God...to know the why of His 'rules and regulations' (as the world puts it). They understand that the devil will use any and every opportunity to bring sin into a person's life so that they cannot be in the presence of the Lover of Their Soul. A TRUE Christian walks in forgiveness and compassion, praying for those that are caught in the deceitful web of lies that causes any person to believe contrary to His Word and buy into idolatry.
ANY "Christian" that holds hate in their heart toward another human being is nothing more than a Pharisee and is full of false religion. That they are "Christian" is, in truth, a falicy...an affront to the Holy Spirit. They are still lost in all their religious and pious behaviors....attending church, tithing, even doing ministry! If they hate, they sin themselves. And no one that sins [purposely or knowingly] is in or can enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Maggie
1Jn_2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

1Jn_2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

1Jn_3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

1Jn_4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?


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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

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DiscipleDave

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Peace be with you Madam in JESUS' NAME.
Good message and GOD blesses you.
Yes, GOD hate sin and not the person. For example, GOD hate a lying tongue. We can see that GOD hate the tongue that lies and not the person.
As Christians we have no right to hate anyone. We must love everyone but hate sin. Sin is what we hate and not the person who sinned.
Again, we have no right to hold an offence against anyone. W e must forgive all those who have hurt us.
Thank you Madam for sharing this message with us all in JESUS' NAME.
Amen, we are to HATE sin.. Tell me, those who continue to practice the same sin over and over and over again without ceasing from it, do they hate that sin or love to continue to commit that sin? Can a True Christian LOVE to obey satan, His enemy? Will a TRUE Christian willingly obey satan? If they hated the sin, they would look to Jesus for His Strength and Power to overcome that sin. But if a person loves to sin, they will NOT seek His help to overcome that sin, because they do not want to cease from that sin, because they love it, not hate it.
i pray that everyone learns to abhor sinning, even as Jesus Christ has helped me to do.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

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BillG

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Amen, we are to HATE sin.. Tell me, those who continue to practice the same sin over and over and over again without ceasing from it, do they hate that sin or love to continue to commit that sin? Can a True Christian LOVE to obey satan, His enemy? Will a TRUE Christian willingly obey satan? If they hated the sin, they would look to Jesus for His Strength and Power to overcome that sin. But if a person loves to sin, they will NOT seek His help to overcome that sin, because they do not want to cease from that sin, because they love it, not hate it.
i pray that everyone learns to abhor sinning, even as Jesus Christ has helped me to do.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave.com
And pray for those entrapped in sin but hate it and cry out to God for help that he delivers them from it and heals the reasons why.
 

GOP

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Peace be with you my brother. Sir, what you said is absolutely right. So, the questions you asked me, you have already answered them. Thank you for answering them. I'm saying that as Christians we have no right to hate anyone. We must love everyone but hate sin. Sin is what we hate and not the person who sinned.

The HOLY SPIRIT says, “And the LORD’S Servant must not be quarrelsome but kindly to everyone, an apt teacher, forbearing, correcting his opponents with gentleness. GOD may perhaps grant that they will repent and come to know the truth, and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will (2 Timothy 2:24).”


Amen, we are to HATE sin.. Tell me, those who continue to practice the same sin over and over and over again without ceasing from it, do they hate that sin or love to continue to commit that sin? Can a True Christian LOVE to obey satan, His enemy? Will a TRUE Christian willingly obey satan? If they hated the sin, they would look to Jesus for His Strength and Power to overcome that sin. But if a person loves to sin, they will NOT seek His help to overcome that sin, because they do not want to cease from that sin, because they love it, not hate it.
i pray that everyone learns to abhor sinning, even as Jesus Christ has helped me to do.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave.com
 

GOP

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Peace be with you Sir.
Good morning.
Wow! It sound funny that I greeted someone and I called him Sir, and I bless His family and you are angry with it as your message indicate.
However, GOD knows those who are His.
I love you Sir.
JESUS is LORD.


The first thing Jesus did in ministry was go to a big wedding feast. Whereas he did spend up to 40 days away from people, most of the time we see him eating at someone's house, needing a relatively big hill to preach on so as to have enough room for everyone who came to him, walking down roads with gobs of people following him, and generally speaking being followed around by 12 guys, plus hundreds of disciples, and occasional family members so family members could see their husbands and sons again.

In contrast to how Jesus did it. You pop up 2-5 times a week, post something that may or may not have any bearing on the gospel at all, once more God himself, then flitter away until your post disappears. And in that case, then you come back to respond to your own post again to renew top spot for it.

So, please don't pretend you're doing what Jesus did. You're really not. He interacted. You seem to think you're a purveyor of rather long-winded fortune cookies, as the only means to enlighten everyone else's life.

If I bother at all, I end up perplexed by what you write or why you write it. Even here. Really? Not like Ugly only shows up here once a year, so why offer him a glorious year? What does that even mean? And his name, (for better or worse lol), is Ugly, so why call him sir? And why are you blessing his family? Do you know his family? Very sad that you can't honestly talk to anyone in two year's time.