Commanding the weather.

[Powemm]

To the original op... i was working in an office with a very large window. It was summer, we hadnt had much rain, and none forecasted... ... there was a very tiny cloud all by itself and I told the girls to speak into it God can do some very cool things if we just believe.. just as I finished saying it.. two patients walked up.. they asked what we were lookin at.. I told them we were speaking into the only cloud in the sky and that where two or three gather in jesus name god is there... the two patients stood in agreement with me... about an hour later the sky grew very dark and it began raining... one of the girls in the office jad gone home.. the next day she said it had hailed heavily on her house...damaging some of her roof... another time was when I was driving home from a study group... it was lightening in the distance and I simply asked god.. is this what it looks like around your throne? No so one did the last word come out when a bolt of lightning. Came before me and lit up the entire dark sky... my low headlight beams were out and only the high beams worked.... god will certainly speak to you

 

[psychomom]

i'm sitting here chuckling at the thought we each 'command' the weather...

rain
stop
rain
stop
snow
sun
clouds
wind
calm
snow
................

 

[Angela53510]

I'm appalled at how some need signs to believe.

"For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, [SUP]23 [/SUP]but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, [SUP]24 [/SUP]but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. [SUP]25 [/SUP]For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men." 1 Cor. 1:22-25

How much better to pray for the lost, missionaries, the persecuted church! Now I am not saying if a DISASTER is coming your way, you should not ask God to remove it, but if you live in tornado alley, expect tornadoes. I live in Alberta, and I expect cold and snow, and I prepare for it. I go to Mexico if I need warm weather in winter.

The cross of Christ is what we need to be about, not worrying about how warm/cold/wet the weather is!

 

[posthuman]

i'm waiting for God to command me to command the weather.

 

[Elizabeth619]

If we could command the weather then the bible belt would have perfect, year round weather.

 

[posthuman]

If we could command the weather then the bible belt would have perfect, year round weather.

except for the prayers of the saints with gardens they ask to be watered

 

[SarahM777]

If we could command the weather then the bible belt would have perfect, year round weather.

Are you sure about that?

I want rain.
No you can't have it. I want snow.
No you can't have it. I want sunshine.
Mine Mine mine.

Thank you Lord we are not in control,otherwise we would be in a whole lot worse shape.

 

[Zmouth]

Can we play Supreme Weather Forecaster and command the weather to our own will like a magician? Not a chance.

Not a chance?

Here's UN Treaty to restrict weather modification for military uses

https://treaties.un.org/Pages/ViewDetails.aspx?src=IND&mtdsg_no=XXVI-1&chapter=26&lang=en

Here is a website for a Corporate provider weather modification services
if you're ever in the market for a sunny day when you're feeling blue

Weather Modification, Inc. questions, FAQs

This website talks about the U.S. Military Research facility on weather modification.

HAARP: Secret Weapon Used For Weather Modification, Electromagnetic Warfare | Global Research

 

[Yet]

With God, all things are possible. What's missing with some here is the sons of God are to be 'led of the Spirit'. One fellow, in so doing, stopped the earth from turning.
If you have reached some level of maturity and know the still small voice of God and He impresses on you to pray that the earth stop rotating and you doubt not, it definitely will stop. That's a given. Now read it again. 'IF' He LEADS you to pray such and such.

 

[Free-To-Be]

I'm not the one that started this thread and laid claims of what can be "commanded".

Silly to start a thread and get asked a legitimate question pertaining your posts and then give a question to a question instead of an answer.

I am well aware who started the thread. It was me. You asked me a question that has nothing to do with commanding the weather or this thread. In asking that question I believe you are hoping to try and expose me a a fake fraud or what ever.
You asked what the carnel mind does. You are offeneded at me and by what I have been saying. They were offended by Jesus,paul,peter etc. And Jesus gave us plenty warming about what would happen if you preach truth. I had to leave my church of 21 years to run with this message. Not one person came to visit me since I left. But I still love them all and understand better today than I ever did what is wrong with them. I was involed in everything in that church to many to mention here. But was dropped like a stone. So where ever I go I am an angle to some and a devil to some. None of the two attitudes move me either way. I dont care what people think of me. This messgae is way more important tham my pride.

Childishness - not Christ-like.

Well if I am childish that also aligns with scripture.

I mean - if you started this thread and have seen these miracles working through you, why would you post this other post and tell us we're off if we don't "command" these things to happen and resent being asked a question on it?

Have I seen these things I talk of working Yes. And I am not at the mercy of a man with an argument.
A man with an experiance is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.

Though I do believe we have His authority and anointing to be used in all ways that He was -

Really? These signs follow those who believe. So why would you baulk at my question? I have a testimony and I always share it to encourage those who believe. I never answered you because of the reason behind the question.

But

my problem is that you're leaving off the part in His Word about "IF He Wills"

You got a scripture thats say God wants some healed sometimes and some not some time?
If you think I missed a part you need to explian exactly what you mean by that?

... as in -- getting a direct word from His Spirit to 'do' what you're faulting us for not doing. If you're not led by His Spirit to lay hands on people - you'll do more damage to them and their loved ones then you seem to understand.

Not everyone is at fault for not doing some of what I said in here. I am really encouraged bye some of the PMs I recieved.

The bible is clear.
By His stripes.
Ask in my name and it shall be done.
Where two or three are gathered.
When two agree in my name.
What you bind on earth.
Dont you know that greater things than these you will do?
And IF your sick call the elders and they will say the prayer of faith. ( Not the prayer of maybes yes maybes no)
And they will be healed.
Any one who knows there bible will know these. Google them if you want to know where they are.
To many Macdonalds mind set Christians today.
How many more do you need?
Now if you were saying to me I know that, But why is it not working. That at least would be a searching mind set. But saying Its wrong with out undersatnding it is carnel.

We don't "command" weather - but God can prove Himself by answering our prayer to change the weather. I've seen that.

We do commaned the weather Its just you never done it or know any one who has. What gives you the right to say we dont with out any scripture to back it up.

I've seen people be healed - but if it was His Will to heal everybody that I pray for - I'd be going around everywhere healing the sick in hospitals and Nursing Homes, My Family - etc. etc..

Once again give me some scripture. Proving God only heals some at will.

My question is not out of line with your posts.

Never said it was out of line until now in this post.

I only asked you a question back like Christ has done. And you deride me for that in public.
I am an offence to some and encourage ment to some.
I came here to share a known truth. Some are recieving it and some are not. entierly everyones choise.
Take it or leave it. It was always the religious people who were offended. By Paul Jesus John the baptist etc.

So I am going to finnish by asking you a very simple question.
What does the word saved mean?


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[Free-To-Be]

All miracles are if He wills,

once again do you have a scripture saying God only heals if its His will?

as the power is His, not ours.

I believe were all on the same page that its Gods power and nothing to do with us. Do think I saw anyone say it was there power.
Did you see someing I missed?

There those here with little clue.

Yeah there every were.

Actually, I have seen amazing things, most of which I would never talk about here. The Lord isn't a three ring circus, seeking to prove anything, nor is He in the business I've ever seen empowering anybody who would go around bragging they know something of the miraculous others don't.

I have never had an experiance that God told me dont share my glory. If You were told dont tell what you saw sometimes cool.
Gods awsome and does different things with different people for different reasons.
Now I am guessing you are refering to me about bragging to have seen things that some havent, (probably most which is plain to see) You are correct God doesnt go about empowering people. Because He already done that through Christ and the Holy in dewelling Spirit of God. Its not bragging that all that you can see carnel. Not my fault. Life is to short forme to go about pussy footing about people who are carnel minded. people are dying and going to hell while we sit in a forum pulling each other down because of lack of understanding. I havenet ridiculed you or anyone else. But I am getting from Christians. Something wrong there bro. If someone comes in and teaches something you dont understand its up to you to come with scripture, nit ridicle. But you have no scripture and all can see it who reads it. Back it up or keep quite. Bring scripture or your hurting your self.
I dont take offence at any thing you say. I love you. As Christ is my witness.
The things that have been said that would be classed as offence by some I dont see that. I see you at your created value in Christ. and that Is beutifull and so are you.

Some of the trollish comments are just that, i.e., hot air. Even the miracles of our Lord were not to go around healing the world of sickness, or He would have, or putting on magic shows, He didn't, but His public displays were to primarily prove His power and authority as from God, so the gospel message of faith through the ages would have evidence, nothing for the sake of, "Look what I can do." There are dogs that don't hunt here on CC, out the wazoo.

Wow just for the record Jesus healed the all. All all. None were left not healed NONE.
You keep talking about what YOU think I really dont car e what anyone thinks Give me scripture because nothing else will do.

Side note. you said

The Lord isn't a three ring circus, seeking to prove anything,

but His public displays were to primarily prove His power and authority as from God,

Make up your mind this is a typical example of not knowing God intimitly but not prepared to listen.
If your going to reply dont cheery pick your answers answer all the question please.

 

[Free-To-Be]

We r to be directed by the Spirit, not fleshly whims.

Got a scripture for that? Not the flesh part. The leading part.
Here my scriptrue to save me coming back.
Go into all the world preaching good news.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Lay hands on the sick.
No mention of leading there.

The folks we were with in Italy need Christ. Our friends said 'aren't we lucky for such good weather'. I chimed in 'I don't believe in luck'. We Aldo slipped in briefly that we had prayed about the weather and then let it go. A seed was planted by God's design.

Way to many folks in Naples and Rome are steeped in darkness. Wine and pagan idolatry, Catholicism, and open bill board porn, is all they know. This we discerned. This we witnessed.

And America is exactly the same. and the rest of the world.

Who's to say that God won't take that witness and start a holy fire? We simply obeyed His lead. I know, by the Spirit, something is happening.

Amen

My wife and I prayed that if He didn't want us to go, close the door. I really did not want to go but we were forced by a circumstance. We went, we saw, we prayed for the masses steeped in their own brand of darkness. Is that not what we are to do? Not really a vacation. We endured the oppression there and many moments when the Spirit brought us to tears and intercession.

Amen again.

 

[Yet]

Romans 8:14

 

[Free-To-Be]

Romans 8:14

Great scripture backs up what I said do you have anything to say on my whole post.

Sons being lead is great But its continual not maybe yes and maybe no. All the promise are yes and amen.
So the sons are lead.

19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God

The leading is constant. Just like God. everything about God is constant.

What would you say if you went to the doctor and he said eh maybe I will, na dont think I will. So no NEXT.
Christians think this way. Because there carenly been taught.
Eh think I will give this child cancer, or for the half believer. Maybe I will let the enemy give that child cancer. I can teach the parents a good lesson. Now remember I am the God of love yall know that right? And because I am love everything I do is in love. If it was a leader he would be called saddam or hitler. God doesnt act like this. God doesnt use sickness to teach us a lessen. anyone doing that would in human terms be called an evil Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

If you think God does that, you are being decieved. satan came to steal kill and destroy. he staels everything including the word.
Just stop and think would God reall use cancer. Are you nuts?

So hard to believe that I am having to say this. I used to believe it a little bit to until I was told no. But I listened and am blessed with truth. So are many in here.

 

[Yet]

John 10 ....all that came before me are thieves and robbers....the thief comes to steal.....false teachers and prophets for profit are the thieves that steal, kill, and destroy. The Babylonian clerics to the Roman clerics to the modern clerics. False mediators all. Need a new thread for this one.

 

[Free-To-Be]

John 10 ....all that came before me are thieves and robbers....the thief comes to steal.....false teachers and prophets for profit are the thieves that steal, kill, and destroy. The Babylonian clerics to the Roman clerics to the modern clerics. False mediators all. Need a new thread for this one.

Ok we see what you wrote whats it mean what are you trying to say Are you directly accusing me of something. Did you go about that scripturaly? Whats you point? mine is crystel clear. What yours?

You are cheery picking scripture Back up what you believe with scripture that agrees with scripture.

 

[prove-all]

here is an interesting story
Miracle of the gulls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ChristIsGod]

Free-To-Be - in answer to your PM which I just received that asks me to come answer your post here ... I feel that I gave my views on here sufficiently and hadn't returned to this thread since because I felt and still feel that I have answered with my views in their entirety.

Enjoy your time here and don't get 'offended'. Thanks!

 

[ChristIsGod]

What I also hadn't seen was that you bumped a zombie thread ... seen below.

It's a good idea to read the rules before becoming a member but what's done is done and I figure now I'll make the most of this breach ... I fully believe in Mark 16:15-18 but even in the case of the demon possessed - you sure better have a word from Him before you go near that and don't think that you can "lay hands on" a demon possessed person.

I also believe that most 'depression' is a choice. Occasionally people are Oppressed but that would take discerning of spirits or wisdom of, or about the person to discern if it's oppression and oppression is 'healed' [even by the oppressed person themselves] by the Word that Jesus used against Satan.

I've seen way far too much of calling every malady, mood, infirmity, self-pity, fear -- you name it, "a spirit of _____ or _____ ." AND I've seen people being physically abused during so-called "deliverance services" or alleged "exorcisms".

When I first got saved, I read the book of Acts and immediately believed in the gifts of the Spirit but also learned while stationed in Puerto Rico from some Americans there, that there is definitely a very dangerous cultish group that blames almost everything on demons and will sometimes do irreparable damage to the mind or spirit of the person that they feel they need to "deliver". I've seen this physical abuse and those that were sent to the Psych Ward afterwards that were never the same.

You had better be led of the Spirit of God when you begin to "lay hands" on ANYBODY!

Some guy came to my Church about 35 yrs ago and it was a time when I finally got my almost 90 y.o. Grandmother to go with me. He saw her cane and came right up to her and took her cane and "commanded" her to walk and because everyone was looking at her then - she felt obliged to walk AND she even BELIEVED that God could or did heal her --- but she wasn't healed and it angers me to this day.

Command the weather all that you want -- but if you are dealing with human beings - you had BETTER have a Word from Him to do so!

And again - all else that I believe is on page 2 here - so please don't "command" I come and answer again. Thanks!!

 

[Ariel82]

Something that occurred to me a long time ago is to avoid asking for anything that I can't first spiritually see as in keeping with God's will and for His glory, or to address some real trouble and need seen as requiring His intervention. Examples of Biblical prayers are not a laundry list of consumer items that exceed basic needs.

I would like to see where in the Bible God commands people to command the weather.

The prophets did not do so. They had sense to take cover in the rain.

I don't think it is sound Biblical teaching to require people to believe they have some kind of magical praying power to command things that only GOD can command and ordain.

I do think we can pray for the safety and health of people around us. However, God did not heal all the blind or sick that Jesus meet. That is why they wanted to stone Him when He visited His hometown. He told them the truth:

Luke 4
[SUP]23 [/SUP]He said to them, “You will surely say this proverb to Me, ‘Physician, heal yourself! Whatever we have heard done in Capernaum,[SUP][l][/SUP] do also here in Your country.’” [SUP]24 [/SUP]Then He said, “Assuredly, I say to you, no prophet is accepted in his own country. [SUP]25 [/SUP]But I tell you truly, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elijah, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, and there was a great famine throughout all the land; [SUP]26 [/SUP]but to none of them was Elijah sent except to Zarephath,[SUP][m][/SUP] in the region of Sidon, to a woman who was a widow. [SUP]27 [/SUP]And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Elisha the prophet, and none of them was cleansed except Naaman the Syrian.”
[SUP]28 [/SUP]So all those in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath, [SUP]29 [/SUP]and rose up and thrust Him out of the city; and they led Him to the brow of the hill on which their city was built, that they might throw Him down over the cliff. [SUP]30 [/SUP]Then passing through the midst of them, He went His way.

NONE OF THEM WERE cleansed except NAAMAN the Syrian.

God's will is not ours and His ways are higher. Do NOT claim to have power and authority God did not grant you.

I have seen miracles and I have seen healings, but I know it is GOD's power and not mine or anyone who prayed.

God did these things to show us He could and it was His will. It built up the faith but were not required to keep our love or obedience.

God is not some spirit you can command to do tricks because YOU feel like He should. God has a plan for each life. We should not pray for our wills to be done but HIS.