commands....why?

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followjesus

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PaulMack said:
You are totally wrong mpaper345. Everybody will hear the Truth. Not just some, but everybody.

The punishment for those who reject the Truth is the same for everybody. There is no lesser or greater punishment.

All who have rejected God will spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire receiving the exact same punishment that Satan and his angles will receive.

Why are you teaching man's lies as Truths from God?

Revelation 20:11-15
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. [SUP]12 [/SUP]And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. [SUP]15 [/SUP]And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
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we are each accountable for the measure of truth that we know personally. the more you understand, the more you are accountable for. each person is judged according to faith and deeds. sin is " knowing what is right, and not doing it" you have to first KNOW and then you have to DO. each person has a different level of knowledge. if all you truly know is Jesus died for my sins I acceopt Him as my savior and Lord, if that sincerely is all they know, they are accountable for that. as we learn we are bound to obey the things we see before us. the thing is we cannot fool God if we know the right and do not do it, we have sinned and are in need of repentance. God is personal in Christ, in the heart and mind, judging the heart and minds attitudes. I am not accountable for what you know, but what I know, I cant fool God into thinking I know little he is in and with me knowing what I know, knowing what I do.......


the person who a week ago Just heard the gospel and acceopted it as truth, is not accountable for what the pastor who has accepted Jesus 10 years ago, but that pastor has a higher standard according to what He knows Gods word says. the issue is when we believe it, and then omit what he is saying, at that point we are resisiting and over riding Hoid word.......things have changed for us but obedience to Jesus will never changes, we learn and obey as we learn if we keep in step with our faith or our knowledge we have no worries. if we aren't obeying, maybe we should stop learning for a moment and obey what we already know.
 
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PilgrimPassingThru

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followjesus said:
are you actually asking ? you got me I mis spelled the abbreviation of Deuteronomy............... should have been deut. abbreviation I figured in a bible discussion forum people could deduce.....God bless
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I do the same thing actually, but whenever it become a spelling or a grammar police thing I will likely keep doing it, not to mention all my notes I copy paste from are already written out that same way and I dont want to go back and fix them.

Its likely sloth and something to repent from.
 
followjesus

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FreeNChrist said:
Do you believe that Jesus is God? Yes or no?
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acts 17:30-31 "In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”

romans 1:1-6 "Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God— the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life[SUP] [/SUP] was a descendant of David, and who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our LORD. Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake. And YOU also are among those Gentiles who are called to belong to Jesus Christ."


1 john 4:14-15 "And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. "



........it isn't at all unclear who Jesus is if a person would take Gods word for it.

" and a voice came from heaven saying " This is my Son, Listen to Him"

matthew 24:36 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."



maybe accept His Son whom He sent into the world to Save those who will believe that He is the Son of God, who is YOUR Lord, OUR Lord.
 
Th0mas

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What may you think after comparing what you may look at below ?

Proverbs 6:23

For this command is a lamp, this teaching is a light, and correction and instruction are the way to life,

James 1:5

If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.

Matthew 18:15

"If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over.

1 Timothy 5:20

But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning.
 
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followjesus

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I think its the truth, were all supposed to be growing together and not swinging at each other when we get close. I think to point someones sin out to them in private, has a proper procedure. we are to be gentle and do it in love, not simplky to point that they are wrong, but to bring back those who are going astray. if it is true Godly Love that motivates our correction in private first, and it is not done from " I'm right you are wrong" but rather " brother, look what the lord who Loves us says" to just point out others flaws thinking we are right they are wrong to me would fall under this category.

matthew 7:1-5 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."



we need to constantly examine our own self in order to guide anyone into righteousness or we are judging ourselves
 
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FreeNChrist

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followjesus said:
acts 17:30-31 "In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”

romans 1:1-6 "Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God— the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life was a descendant of David, and who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our LORD. Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake. And YOU also are among those Gentiles who are called to belong to Jesus Christ."


1 john 4:14-15 "And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. "



........it isn't at all unclear who Jesus is if a person would take Gods word for it.

" and a voice came from heaven saying " This is my Son, Listen to Him"

matthew 24:36 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."



maybe accept His Son whom He sent into the world to Save those who will believe that He is the Son of God, who is YOUR Lord, OUR Lord.
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Is that a yes or a no?
 
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FreeNChrist said:
Is that a yes or a no?
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youll have to just accept what ive made perfectly clear to you on several occasions and realize because here you are demanding yes and no, means nothing at all to me. I have a Lord, He is the Son of the Living God, the Christ. His name would Be Jesus. but do you really see the relevance that if His words belong to God, and they do, that to deny His authprity over you in all ways, has nothing to do with me ? But is more for you to realize God is saying "If you Love me, obey me" and that has never changed from the old covenant to the new? you have a tendancy to ignore value and attempt to demand answers when really, the issue may be that you think you somehow have authoprity over another. if God says something and we ignore it........is He really our God in clear conscience?



from the beginning of this topic about is Jesus God, that began back in February, your traps are still found empty. trappers cant make a living if they aren't catching game with proper bait and well set traps, first go and learn how you would trap someone and THEN come set the trap in higher weeds than you have used........my stomache isn't my God, I follow Jesus the Son of God, my Lord and the Lord of ALL. and He is wise to keep His disciples out of trappings of those looking to begin quarrels when the word is Clear who Jesus is. God the Father, Jesus His Only begotten Son, they are in unity. He is recognized clearly as Gods Son, One with God by Gods declaration.........happy hunting
 
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followjesus said:
youll have to just accept what ive made perfectly clear to you on several occasions and realize because here you are demanding yes and no, means nothing at all to me. I have a Lord, He is the Son of the Living God, the Christ. His name would Be Jesus. but do you really see the relevance that if His words belong to God, and they do, that to deny His authprity over you in all ways, has nothing to do with me ? But is more for you to realize God is saying "If you Love me, obey me" and that has never changed from the old covenant to the new? you have a tendancy to ignore value and attempt to demand answers when really, the issue may be that you think you somehow have authoprity over another. if God says something and we ignore it........is He really our God in clear conscience?



from the beginning of this topic about is Jesus God, that began back in February, your traps are still found empty. trappers cant make a living if they aren't catching game with proper bait and well set traps, first go and learn how you would trap someone and THEN come set the trap in higher weeds than you have used........my stomache isn't my God, I follow Jesus the Son of God, my Lord and the Lord of ALL. and He is wise to keep His disciples out of trappings of those looking to begin quarrels when the word is Clear who Jesus is. God the Father, Jesus His Only begotten Son, they are in unity. He is recognized clearly as Gods Son, One with God by Gods declaration.........happy hunting
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So you do not believe that Jesus is God. Got it.
 
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FreeNChrist said:
So you do not believe that Jesus is God. Got it.
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I believe there ARE just a couple of definitive "litmus tests" for being a Christian.
One of them has to be believing that Jesus Christ is God come in human form.
WHY do some find it difficult, and even offensive, to just flat out say that Jesus is God?
I would truly like to know who on this board does not believe Jesus is God. I bear zero ill will toward you, and I will still love you, but I don't need to here any of your thoughts on Scripture if you have this foundation so wrong.
If you are ashamed to admit you don't believe Jesus is God then doesn't that tell you something?
 
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PennEd said:
I believe there ARE just a couple of definitive "litmus tests" for being a Christian.
One of them has to be believing that Jesus Christ is God come in human form.
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Yep. The denial of Jesus as who He is, God, is the denial of Jesus. It's a deal breaker.
 
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