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Didn't the victims of the inquisition (protestants) suffer horribly? Didn't the apostles suffer martyrdom?
It's going to be a lot of people deciding to take the mark If It's take the mark or die.
 
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Hey Reborn,

I'm not here to bash anybody.
(I like to bash my husband every now and then --- just for fun)

I don't even know about eschatology --- how do you like that bag of beans?

We must admit though, that we are getting closer and closer to the end.
Putting DNA of humans into a pig, deciding if we want a boy or girl before Conception,
States deciding if a child lives or dies (England), euthanasia, abortion...

We're in a mess and are beginning to think WE are God...

So, however it happens, I don't know --- but it's coming and this would be a good way to get everybody under control; which is what's happening, if you've noticed.

I don't sit around worrying about this stuff...
Philippians 4:8
Don't forget They are also sacrificing millions of babies each year to the god molloch.
 
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What we have here is a lot of speculation and opinions and very little Bible truth.
But, this is the norm in the BDF.
Ok Pick up your bible, if you can find it, and prove all of this wrong.
 
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Hi Seed,

People are suffering every single day of the week. Some are tortured for their faith and imprisoned. Recently many have been beheaded for their faith by Al Queda.

The early church suffered greatly as did the apostles. They were all martyred for their faith. Look throughout history and numerous people died for their faith.

Why would the end times be any different? I don't know if you of of this denomination, but this is were the WOF does a disservice.
:)I'm non-denominational.
 
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Naw, man. l'm good. l'm not running around looking to make things fit in scripture. l'm at peace, Brother. Question is...are you? Waiting for a super chip to destroy mankind, ushering in the end doesn't seem very peaceful...but, hey, you do what you feel is right. That includes...pushing this theory. ...lm against it, so l push not believing the hype. Do you hate my answers simply because they're not what you believe? Bummer.
Huh? what are you even talking about? For one no one ever said they are waiting on a chip. I am however awaiting the Lords return. Nor have i ever indicated to be "running around" to make things fit scripture. Whos pushing a theory? I said multiple times now if you dont argee with whats stated here then that's your choice but you seem to not comprehend that. Who said anything about hating your answers? Dude i wont lose any sleep off of anything you say i can tell you that for sure lol
 
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If the born of the SPIRIT of GOD person Is still here and they take the mark,will they be unsaved at that point or do they still have Eternal Salvation?
 
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Huh? what are you even talking about? For one no one ever said they are waiting on a chip. I am however awaiting the Lords return. Nor have i ever indicated to be "running around" to make things fit scripture. Whos pushing a theory? I said multiple times now if you dont argee with whats stated here then that's your choice but you seem to not comprehend that. Who said anything about hating your answers? Dude i wont lose any sleep off of anything you say i can tell you that for sure lol
You're right you know. What people believe or disbelieve is irrelevant. Beliefs do not have anything to do with what is. I don't believe in Gravity. The bible doesn't use that word. Therefore it should be safe to try base jumping without a parachute. Make sense? About as much sense as most peoples logic?
 
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If the born of the SPIRIT of GOD person Is still here and they take the mark,will they be unsaved at that point or do they still have Eternal Salvation?
If a born again took the mark voluntarily they would be cooked.
 
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If the born of the SPIRIT of GOD person Is still here and they take the mark,will they be unsaved at that point or do they still have Eternal Salvation?
There is no salvation after a person receives the mark, repenting wont work either. The scriptures sternly warns in relevation, “If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives its mark on his forehead or hand, he too will drink the wine of God’s anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb And the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever. Day and night there will be no rest for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”
 

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Huh? what are you even talking about? For one no one ever said they are waiting on a chip. I am however awaiting the Lords return. Nor have i ever indicated to be "running around" to make things fit scripture. Whos pushing a theory? I said multiple times now if you dont argee with whats stated here then that's your choice but you seem to not comprehend that. Who said anything about hating your answers? Dude i wont lose any sleep off of anything you say i can tell you that for sure lol
Calm down, Prynce of New York.

lol


Ah, never mind.
If you're part of that other hobbyists crew...then you won't get it.


I'm done,
Go back to sleep, dear Prynce.
 

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Hey Reborn,

I'm not here to bash anybody.
(I like to bash my husband every now and then --- just for fun)

I don't even know about eschatology --- how do you like that bag of beans?

We must admit though, that we are getting closer and closer to the end.
Putting DNA of humans into a pig, deciding if we want a boy or girl before Conception,
States deciding if a child lives or dies (England), euthanasia, abortion...

We're in a mess and are beginning to think WE are God...

So, however it happens, I don't know --- but it's coming and this would be a good way to get everybody under control; which is what's happening, if you've noticed.

I don't sit around worrying about this stuff...
Philippians 4:8

l never singled you out.
l was referring to the other crew who spit venom when anyone disagrees with them, (lm assuming all for the love of God) lol.

I have my own beliefs in the end.
Actually, they're a lot more frightening than a microchip...but l won't push it as fact because l understand that's what l believe.

A few on this thread seem cool, and l understand their passion.


(Its the giants and royalty that scare me.)
 
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Calm down, Prynce of New York. lol Ah, never mind. If you're part of that other hobbyists crew...then you won't get it. I'm done, Go back to sleep, dear Prynce.
Hobbyists crew? I dont belong to any "crew" but one who follows the Lord. As another member stated perhaps you need to be "Reborn" because theres nothing but mockery coming from you.
 
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I was thinking of getting one of deese Chip reverse home mortgages....do you think I'll have to worship the beast to qualify??
 

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Hobbyists crew? I dont belong to any "crew" but one who follows the Lord. As another member stated perhaps you need to be "Reborn" because theres nothing but mockery coming from you.
This.

This is what l'm talking about.



Where do you and a few others get off judging ones walk with God simply because they dont agree with you?
It may seem like lm "mocking" you, but l'm not. This is the type of snotty Christianity that makes people run from it...and lm calling it out.


Never have l said that you weren't saved...


It's really sad, man.
Seriously...ld get it in check.
 
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If the born of the SPIRIT of GOD person Is still here and they take the mark,will they be unsaved at that point or do they still have Eternal Salvation?

Hi Seed,

Those who take the mark will be those who worship the beast. As believers we can't take the mark.

But we can entrust ourselves to the Lord. He can miraculously feed us and hide us from the beast if that's His will. If we are to die, God will give us the courage we need to stay faithful to Him no matter what we go through.

Revelation 13:11-18
Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke as a dragon. He exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men.

And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who *had the wound of the sword and has come to life.

And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
 
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I am curious..for those of you in other countries, is your government number required for credit cards and private banking?

No, not heard of that one. It's not even mandatory to carry ID over here. :)
 

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No, not heard of that one. It's not even mandatory to carry ID over here. :)
So how are you identifying yourself when you go to a doctor, to a bank or to some bureau?
 
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I'm curious now, how does your social security number work etc for needing it in
every day life?

In the UK if you need to provide proof of ID for anything, you are usually
asked for 3 forms of ID.

Something like a passport, driver's licence, utility bill with your name on it,
bus pass etc.


If you want to open a bank accout, you have to provide the above ID, but then you
are not asked for it again while conducting banking. You usually get a card of some kind,
debit/credit card cash machine card etc. So I suppose that becomes your banking ID.


Everyone has a national insurance number which is given out around the age of 15 or
so, to pay your national insurance. Sometimes you are asked for it when claiming
benefits or when you start a job. But other than that it's not used as a form of general ID.

We also are allocated an NHS reference number, for updating medical records.
So if you go to your own GP, or hospital, they can look up and update your medical records.
Many things are covered by the data protection act, your medical records included.

Then there is your tax code for paying taxes, or getting tax rebates, so yes there
are many paper trails. But the issue of carrying ID of proofing your ID for every day
life, doesn't seem to happen in the UK in the same was as the US.


If you always pay in cash (and many do) and don't need to see a doctor,
the only paper trail of your life would be where you work, how much you earn,
the deductibles you pay tax etc, and how much of your salary you draw out of the
bank. All of these things are covered by the data protection act, and can only be
disclosed to other organisations for things like crime prevention, criminal
activities etc. There are massive fines to people and organisations who break the
data protection act.

I work for a government department and we are forever getting training
on the data protection act and different catagories of date, sensitive, personal,
restricted etc. With severe warning signs of the consequences if we let people's
personal data slip put. Our UK government is terrified of the consequences of data
falling into the wrong hands! Although strangley there are high up leaks to newspapers
in politics! I think thats why they are scared. Lol

I think most of our ID pathways these days, we give away ourselves by the use
of Mobile phones, apps which give away location, apps like Facebook on which we
give away details of our lives etc. Apps which want to access your photos or send you
notifications etc.

On and then every 10 years there is a census. Generally used to plan for
housing, financial, medical needs etc over the coming years to track populations
changes in etc.

Regarding the data protection act, at any time you can go to any organisation and
ask them what information they hold about you. You can ask for it to be corrected
if it's wrong or you can ask for it to be taken out - whether they take it out will depend
on certain practicalities and necessities.

You can sue the government if your data protection rights are breached.


https://www.gov.uk/data-protection/the-data-protection-act




1. The Data Protection Act

The Data Protection Act controls how your personal information is used by organisations, businesses or the government.
Everyone responsible for using data has to follow strict rules called ‘data protection principles’. They must make sure the information is:

  • used fairly and lawfully
  • used for limited, specifically stated purposes
  • used in a way that is adequate, relevant and not excessive
  • accurate
  • kept for no longer than is absolutely necessary
  • handled according to people’s data protection rights
  • kept safe and secure
  • not transferred outside the European Economic Area without adequate protection
There is stronger legal protection for more sensitive information, such as:

  • ethnic background
  • political opinions
  • religious beliefs
  • health
  • sexual health
  • criminal records
 

trofimus

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I'm curious now, how does your social security number work etc for needing it in
every day life?

In the UK if you need to provide proof of ID for anything, you are usually
asked for 3 forms of ID.

Something like a passport, driver's licence, utility bill with your name on it,
bus pass etc.
When you do not travel and you do not have a passport, when you do not drive and do not have a driver licence... you just show your bills?

And how do you get your passports, driver licence and utility bill in the first place?