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I believe I have responded to your poits listed below and above, if now please inform me.........j
"The written code kills," you have got that right.
The Holy Spirit guiding doesn't need the 10 at all.
A person who becomes a Christian, and NEVER hears the Law, will be love without hearing it.
They will be doing the loving thing by the Spirit without ever having heard the Law.
They will be in the Spirit, without the Law.
If they love, they will not sin, they will be the 2 love laws, without ever hearing them.
Forget the 10, be the 2.[/QUOTE]
"The written code kills," you have got that right.
The Holy Spirit guiding doesn't need the 10 at all.
A person who becomes a Christian, and NEVER hears the Law, will be love without hearing it.
They will be doing the loving thing by the Spirit without ever having heard the Law.
They will be in the Spirit, without the Law.
If they love, they will not sin, they will be the 2 love laws, without ever hearing them.
Forget the 10, be the 2.[/QUOTE]
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[TD="colspan: 2"] The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)[/TD]
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[TD]“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.[/TD]
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[TD]“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.[/TD]
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[TD]“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not murder.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not commit adultery.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not steal.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”
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Within the above copy of the Ten Commandments those who love God are referenced.......those who love God will obey Him, therefore it is inherent the two laws of love.
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[TD="colspan: 2"] The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)[/TD]
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[TD]“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.[/TD]
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[TD]“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.[/TD]
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[TD]“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not murder.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not commit adultery.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not steal.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.[/TD]
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[TD]“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”
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Within the above copy of the Ten Commandments those who love God are referenced.......those who love God will obey Him, therefore it is inherent the two laws of love.
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Brother JaumeJ,
Yes, there is love in the 10, but they are not complete, cannot be complete, without the 2. (The whole Law)
But, even the 2 are gone, gone with the law, the Whole Law.
The Spirit comes without the Law.
The gentile Christians had to be taught the Law. But they were complete Christians without the Law.
They didn't need it, it wasn't necessary for salvation.
We don't need it either.
We cannot allow ourselves to be under the Law.
That would be against the Spirit, Jesus died for us to be set free from the Law and under the Spirit.
Shall we make His death useless, and return to the Law?
Take the gospel Spirit, that doesn't need the Law for salvation, and return to Law, in hope of pleasing Jesus?
Yes, there is love in the 10, but they are not complete, cannot be complete, without the 2. (The whole Law)
But, even the 2 are gone, gone with the law, the Whole Law.
The Spirit comes without the Law.
The gentile Christians had to be taught the Law. But they were complete Christians without the Law.
They didn't need it, it wasn't necessary for salvation.
We don't need it either.
We cannot allow ourselves to be under the Law.
That would be against the Spirit, Jesus died for us to be set free from the Law and under the Spirit.
Shall we make His death useless, and return to the Law?
Take the gospel Spirit, that doesn't need the Law for salvation, and return to Law, in hope of pleasing Jesus?
Previously the mention of the two great laws were brought up as containing all the law.......they do, however if one understands teh Ten Commandments it is understood also.
Study, pray and meditate on the Ten Commandments, and you will find it is quite complete......the rest of teh moral laws that remain re already undertood within the Ten.........
I respect your thinking, but I cannot adhere to anything other than to what the HOly Spirit has allowed my new heart to understand.
Study, pray and meditate on the Ten Commandments, and you will find it is quite complete......the rest of teh moral laws that remain re already undertood within the Ten.........
I respect your thinking, but I cannot adhere to anything other than to what the HOly Spirit has allowed my new heart to understand.
Amen well said
When a parson misses the parable as to the spiritual understanding as that not seen it disappears and men look to the literal meaning .walking by sight. God's word is law every tittle ("not even the minutest part of the law shall perish".)
Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
I would offer zeroing in on numbers used in parables to represent the whole or perfect can be misleading . Ten would be one of those numbers used in parables to represent perfect or complete like the word thousand, hundred or even eight ( eight day circumcision= complete)) or eighteen..(all , not some of the people that died when the tower in Siloam fell )
I would suggest ten is used in one way like the word thousand or hundred to give us a vast unknown number as a spiritual understanding. The law of the Lord is perfect as in complete, converting our soul giving us his unseen understanding.
I think we could say. The law of the LORD is ten, ten representing perfect or complete.
Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
In that sense His word is law, not coming after a philosophical opinion of the creation called a private interpretation , our own commentary or what we believe we hear. Like fingerprints one differs from the other.
When a parson misses the parable as to the spiritual understanding as that not seen it disappears and men look to the literal meaning .walking by sight. God's word is law every tittle ("not even the minutest part of the law shall perish".)
Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
I would offer zeroing in on numbers used in parables to represent the whole or perfect can be misleading . Ten would be one of those numbers used in parables to represent perfect or complete like the word thousand, hundred or even eight ( eight day circumcision= complete)) or eighteen..(all , not some of the people that died when the tower in Siloam fell )
I would suggest ten is used in one way like the word thousand or hundred to give us a vast unknown number as a spiritual understanding. The law of the Lord is perfect as in complete, converting our soul giving us his unseen understanding.
I think we could say. The law of the LORD is ten, ten representing perfect or complete.
Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
In that sense His word is law, not coming after a philosophical opinion of the creation called a private interpretation , our own commentary or what we believe we hear. Like fingerprints one differs from the other.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Yah and possessing the witness of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Messiah."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 14:12-13, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and the belief of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying to me, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Master from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, in order that they rest from their labors, and their works follow with them.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Peter/Kepha 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."[/FONT]
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Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 14:12-13, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and the belief of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying to me, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Master from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, in order that they rest from their labors, and their works follow with them.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Peter/Kepha 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."[/FONT]
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Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."
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Amen
How much has the tabernacle been discussed here?
speaking of wisdom in the evening of the Soul
Mountains and Hills
sons and daughters
A woman shall encompass a man.
…"Set up for yourself roadmarks, Place for yourself guideposts; Direct your mind to the highway, The way by which you went. Return, O virgin of Israel, Return to these your cities. "How long will you go here and there, O faithless daughter? For the LORD has created a new thing in the earth-- A woman will encompass a man." Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, "Once again they will speak this word in the land of Judah and in its cities when I restore their fortunes, 'The LORD bless you, O abode of righteousness, O holy hill!'…
If] I take up the wings of dawn, [if] I dwell at the end of the west,
There too, Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will grasp me.
Covering Yourself with light as with a cloak, Stretching out heaven like a tent curtain.
'Who is this that grows like the dawn, As beautiful as the full moon, As pure as the sun, As awesome as an army with banners?'
I will have to disagree again, my brother.
The 10 do not contain the whole Law. There are many other laws in the old covenant, circumcision for example. The 10 are only a small part of the Law.
No, and that is the same problem the pharisees had, they obeyed the letter of the Law, but not the heart of the Law.
They could obey the 10, without the heart.
You will not steal, because of eternal fire (fear), or because of love (faith)?
But the words were not written on the stone, "You shall not steal because you love your neighbor", the love part was written in another part of scripture, not in the 10.
So you see how the 10, "hung" on the 2.
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Now you say do away with the 2, and keep the 10.
What other Laws shall we keep to please God, from the old covenant?
Ceremonial laws? The 2 laws are generally considered to be part of that group.
So if we do away with the ceremonial laws, the 2 are gone with it.
You might say that removing the 2, and keeping the 10, is ripping the heart out of the old covenant.
Amen brother, I think that's how it is supposed to be.
We are just talking, discussing, I know I can learn some things from you, we are just talking.
The 10 do not contain the whole Law. There are many other laws in the old covenant, circumcision for example. The 10 are only a small part of the Law.
No, and that is the same problem the pharisees had, they obeyed the letter of the Law, but not the heart of the Law.
They could obey the 10, without the heart.
You will not steal, because of eternal fire (fear), or because of love (faith)?
But the words were not written on the stone, "You shall not steal because you love your neighbor", the love part was written in another part of scripture, not in the 10.
So you see how the 10, "hung" on the 2.
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Now you say do away with the 2, and keep the 10.
What other Laws shall we keep to please God, from the old covenant?
Ceremonial laws? The 2 laws are generally considered to be part of that group.
So if we do away with the ceremonial laws, the 2 are gone with it.
You might say that removing the 2, and keeping the 10, is ripping the heart out of the old covenant.
Amen brother, I think that's how it is supposed to be.
We are just talking, discussing, I know I can learn some things from you, we are just talking.
And in the 5th yr.........
Something paul expounded on with Honor your father and mother in the Lord.
A Lamp on a Hill
Ephesians 6
1Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2“Honoryourfatherandmother”(whichisthe firstcommandmentwitha promise),3“that it may go well with you and that you may be long-lived on the earth.”…
Mishlei(proverbs 31
She looks well to the ways of her household, And does not eat the bread of idleness. 28Her childrenriseup and blessher; Her husbandalso, and he praisesher, saying:29"Many daughters have done nobly, But you excel them all."…
Something paul expounded on with Honor your father and mother in the Lord.
A Lamp on a Hill
Ephesians 6
1Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2“Honoryourfatherandmother”(whichisthe firstcommandmentwitha promise),3“that it may go well with you and that you may be long-lived on the earth.”…
Mishlei(proverbs 31
She looks well to the ways of her household, And does not eat the bread of idleness. 28Her childrenriseup and blessher; Her husbandalso, and he praisesher, saying:29"Many daughters have done nobly, But you excel them all."…
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The commandment written on our heart is no longer something we try to live up to but Living and waking in the Holy Spirit: walking in the light we have we get more light. Did you notice that there is no command to receive the Holy Spirit, we are told that if we ask we will receive: when we know we need help.
Yet Jesus said, "All manner of sin shall be forgiven to man but rejecting the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven," The Holy Spirit leads us in the truth and teaches us to Love, so that we can forgive and be forgiven.
There is much mentioned about God giving us rest. He that has entered into rest has ceased from His labour as God did from His." Yet it's also written that we are labourers together with God. So far this could be taken either way, do we obey the Law or not? when I did not obey the Law it killed me, became dead to the Love of God, but was really dead all along, needing to be exposed. We have not attained to the Resurrection and when we do it will be a kingdom that can't be shaken, those who suffered with Him will rule with Him in the first Resurrection. The suffering is to put to death the deeds of the flesh and then "All that live godly shall suffer persecution." The 1000 year reign of Christ is the last day, the Sabbath rest. "To keep it is daily pick up your cross and follow Me" wether you honor a day above another or not you should be fully convinced Romans 14:5
Yet Jesus said, "All manner of sin shall be forgiven to man but rejecting the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven," The Holy Spirit leads us in the truth and teaches us to Love, so that we can forgive and be forgiven.
There is much mentioned about God giving us rest. He that has entered into rest has ceased from His labour as God did from His." Yet it's also written that we are labourers together with God. So far this could be taken either way, do we obey the Law or not? when I did not obey the Law it killed me, became dead to the Love of God, but was really dead all along, needing to be exposed. We have not attained to the Resurrection and when we do it will be a kingdom that can't be shaken, those who suffered with Him will rule with Him in the first Resurrection. The suffering is to put to death the deeds of the flesh and then "All that live godly shall suffer persecution." The 1000 year reign of Christ is the last day, the Sabbath rest. "To keep it is daily pick up your cross and follow Me" wether you honor a day above another or not you should be fully convinced Romans 14:5
Ezekiel 36:25-27
[FONT="]25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.[/FONT]
[FONT="]27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Have you been given a new heart? One that follows after the Spirit?
Or do you have a heart of stone? One that follows the commandments written on stone?
The heart of stone has no choice. I suppose it has to elevate the commandments written on stone because thats all it understands.
But if you've been given a new heart and you've been given a new spirit then you KNOW what you follow and it is NOT your understanding of what you think the commandments on stone say.
If you've been given a new heart and a new spirit you follow what CAUSES you to walk in Gods Statutes.
What would cause us to walk in Gods Statutes? Our will? Our understanding? Our strength? That would be pretty prideful to think that.
It almost doesn't seem nice to keep pointing out how blessed we are in Christ and how the thoughts and understanding of carnal men are what curses them.
So what do you say to those who insist on keeping their curse? There's a better Way...
Hebrews 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
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[FONT="]25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.[/FONT]
[FONT="]27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Have you been given a new heart? One that follows after the Spirit?
Or do you have a heart of stone? One that follows the commandments written on stone?
The heart of stone has no choice. I suppose it has to elevate the commandments written on stone because thats all it understands.
But if you've been given a new heart and you've been given a new spirit then you KNOW what you follow and it is NOT your understanding of what you think the commandments on stone say.
If you've been given a new heart and a new spirit you follow what CAUSES you to walk in Gods Statutes.
What would cause us to walk in Gods Statutes? Our will? Our understanding? Our strength? That would be pretty prideful to think that.
It almost doesn't seem nice to keep pointing out how blessed we are in Christ and how the thoughts and understanding of carnal men are what curses them.
So what do you say to those who insist on keeping their curse? There's a better Way...
Hebrews 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
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Sons and Daughters.
Every seed after its kind.
I once heard, "wild or natural, an olive is an olive."
I also once heard a daughter respond to her mothers question concerning angels, she said, "an Angel is a Guard"!
Giving a portion
Devarim(deuteronomy)
a land in which you will eat bread without scarcity, you will lack nothing in it, a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose mountains you will hew copper.
Michah
Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion, for I will make your horn iron, and I will make your hooves copper; and you shall crush many nations, and you shall devote their plunder to the Lord, and their wealth to the Lord of all the earth.
Our Comforter
1 A song for ascents. I shall raise my eyes to the mountains, from where will my help come?
2 My help is from the Lord, the Maker of heaven and earth.
3 He will not allow your foot to falter; Your Guardian will not slumber.
4 Behold the Guardian of Israel will neither slumber nor sleep.
5 The Lord is your Guardian; the Lord is your shadow; [He is] by your right hand.
6 By day, the sun will not smite you, nor will the moon at night.
7 The Lord will guard you from all evil; He will guard your soul.
8 The Lord will guard your going out and your coming in from now and to eternity.
Every seed after its kind.
I once heard, "wild or natural, an olive is an olive."
I also once heard a daughter respond to her mothers question concerning angels, she said, "an Angel is a Guard"!
Giving a portion
Devarim(deuteronomy)
a land in which you will eat bread without scarcity, you will lack nothing in it, a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose mountains you will hew copper.
Michah
Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion, for I will make your horn iron, and I will make your hooves copper; and you shall crush many nations, and you shall devote their plunder to the Lord, and their wealth to the Lord of all the earth.
Our Comforter
1 A song for ascents. I shall raise my eyes to the mountains, from where will my help come?
2 My help is from the Lord, the Maker of heaven and earth.
3 He will not allow your foot to falter; Your Guardian will not slumber.
4 Behold the Guardian of Israel will neither slumber nor sleep.
5 The Lord is your Guardian; the Lord is your shadow; [He is] by your right hand.
6 By day, the sun will not smite you, nor will the moon at night.
7 The Lord will guard you from all evil; He will guard your soul.
8 The Lord will guard your going out and your coming in from now and to eternity.
I hope this isnt to much at once.
Legal congregation of ten.
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/arti...tional-quorum/
26 Moreover thou shalt make the tabernacle with ten curtains of fine twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet: with cherubims of cunning work shalt thou make them.
2 The length of one curtain shall be eight and twenty cubits, and the breadth of one curtain four cubits: and every one of the curtains shall have one measure.
3 The five curtains shall be coupled together one to another; and other five curtains shall be coupled one to another.
4 And thou shalt make loops of blue upon the edge of the one curtain from the selvedge in the coupling; and likewise shalt thou make in the uttermost edge of another curtain, in the coupling of the second.
5 Fifty loops shalt thou make in the one curtain, and fifty loops shalt thou make in the edge of the curtain that is in the coupling of the second; that the loops may take hold one of another.
6 And thou shalt make fifty taches of gold, and couple the curtains together with the taches: and it shall be one tabernacle.
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15 And thou shalt make boards for the tabernacle of ****tim wood standing up.
16 Ten cubits shall be the length of a board, and a cubit and a half shall be the breadth of one board.
17 Two tenons shall there be in one board, set in order one against another: thus shalt thou make for all the boards of the tabernacle.
18 And thou shalt make the boards for the tabernacle, twenty boards on the south side southward.
19 And thou shalt make forty sockets of silver under the twenty boards; two sockets under one board for his two tenons, and two sockets under another board for his two tenons.
20 And for the second side of the tabernacle on the north side there shall be twenty boards:
21 And their forty sockets of silver; two sockets under one board, and two sockets under another board.
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"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me. anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
There is one that holds the 7 stars in his Hand.
And for the Church {congregation of 10, takes on meaning. When a family lays on hands it is the blessing passed from generation to generation.
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father's 7, teach their wives 7, father's teach their sons 7, mother's teach their daughter's 7.
5 men to the north and 5 men to the south.
And if they follow Torah, they should not covet.
So the 5 northern look north to their wives and children.
The 5 southern look south to their wives and children.
And so the house is not divided against itself.
Legal congregation of ten.
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/arti...tional-quorum/
26 Moreover thou shalt make the tabernacle with ten curtains of fine twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet: with cherubims of cunning work shalt thou make them.
2 The length of one curtain shall be eight and twenty cubits, and the breadth of one curtain four cubits: and every one of the curtains shall have one measure.
3 The five curtains shall be coupled together one to another; and other five curtains shall be coupled one to another.
4 And thou shalt make loops of blue upon the edge of the one curtain from the selvedge in the coupling; and likewise shalt thou make in the uttermost edge of another curtain, in the coupling of the second.
5 Fifty loops shalt thou make in the one curtain, and fifty loops shalt thou make in the edge of the curtain that is in the coupling of the second; that the loops may take hold one of another.
6 And thou shalt make fifty taches of gold, and couple the curtains together with the taches: and it shall be one tabernacle.
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15 And thou shalt make boards for the tabernacle of ****tim wood standing up.
16 Ten cubits shall be the length of a board, and a cubit and a half shall be the breadth of one board.
17 Two tenons shall there be in one board, set in order one against another: thus shalt thou make for all the boards of the tabernacle.
18 And thou shalt make the boards for the tabernacle, twenty boards on the south side southward.
19 And thou shalt make forty sockets of silver under the twenty boards; two sockets under one board for his two tenons, and two sockets under another board for his two tenons.
20 And for the second side of the tabernacle on the north side there shall be twenty boards:
21 And their forty sockets of silver; two sockets under one board, and two sockets under another board.
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South 2 and 20
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40 Sockets of Silver
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"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me. anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
There is one that holds the 7 stars in his Hand.
And for the Church {congregation of 10, takes on meaning. When a family lays on hands it is the blessing passed from generation to generation.
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father's 7, teach their wives 7, father's teach their sons 7, mother's teach their daughter's 7.
5 men to the north and 5 men to the south.
And if they follow Torah, they should not covet.
So the 5 northern look north to their wives and children.
The 5 southern look south to their wives and children.
And so the house is not divided against itself.
If we are in the world we are still in the land of Egypt. The Hebrew word for Egypt is Mitzraim and it literally means "that which limits you or bind you". You see we all have our own Egypt until we chose to repent (shuv) and turn back to God (the meaning of shuv).
Israel (we are the spiritual Israel) were in Egypt until they turned back to God and entered into covenant with Him. The picture is still the same and relevant to us today.
Israel (we are the spiritual Israel) were in Egypt until they turned back to God and entered into covenant with Him. The picture is still the same and relevant to us today.