Crowns, no crowns, comparison table

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douggg

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The seven heads are seven kings. The ten horns are ten kings. In Revelation 17, 12, 13. But the crowns/no crowns vary, when comparing those three chapters.

The purpose of this comparison table is to help the reader view those variations at one time.

If you zoom out on your monitor, so all three chapters are shown at the same time, the comparison table is a little more easy to follow.


Revelation 17 - timestamp status - first century
seven heads - no crowns (end times completion)
ten horns - no crowns (end times completion)

Revelation 12 - timestamp status - end times, the 7 years before Jesus returns.
seven heads - crowns (seven kings completion)
ten horns - no crowns

Revelation 13 - timestamp status - end times, 42 months before Jesus returns
seven heads - no crowns. one head mortally wounded but healed - the beast king.
ten horns - crowns (to rule with the beast king).
 

Pilgrimshope

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“And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And there are seven kings:( seven crowns in heads)

five are fallen, ( past ) and one is, ( present ) and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, ( future ) he must continue a short space.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:10‬ ‭


“And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, ( ten crowns in ten horns )?which have received no kingdom as yet; ( future ) but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Seven heads and ten horns are seventeen kings of note that make up the beast but then there is the 8th king who destroys three of the ten horns

“And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a total of 18 kingdoms make up the beast with seven heads and ten horns five of those kingdoms were already in johns past one was ruling in johns present and the other 12 had yet to come when he wrote revelation about 1900 urs ago

If you look at Daniel you can see a lot more about this beast with seven heads
 

Pilgrimshope

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It’s interesting you are talking about a time stamp of you look at daniels vision of these things in about 600 bc there is a time stamp


“But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river. And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭12:4-7‬ ‭

about 700 years later in johns vision we see that time has passed five kingdoms have ruled and the sixth ( rome Nero or Titus ) is ruling and John asks “ how long till these thkngs ?”

“And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.

And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.”( such as Daniel )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭10:4-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You will find a lot relating to johns visions in daniels visions Ezekiel’s visions and Zechariah’s visions
 

Pilgrimshope

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Here’s an example I hope it’s helpful when studying revelation this is always the case with various prophets and subjects

Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. The first was like a lion, …. And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, …. After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭7:2-8‬ ‭

This leaves a lot of daniels vision out but you can see he saw four beasts with seven heads and ten horns rising up from the sea about 600 bc and saw this figure who went to war with the saints and God and lost on the end but had power on earth for a period of time so now 700 years later

“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion:

and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:1-4‬ ‭


“And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭7:24-25‬ ‭

“And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. ( 3 and a half years figuratively )

And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:4-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Daniel is seeing the same things but from a more distant view and perspective daniel learns that nebucadnezzar of Babylon is the first king , followed by the rulers of the media Persians who would overthrow Babylon and take dominion , then Greece and Alexander the Great would conquer and take dominion , then his kingdom would split into four and afterwards one United deadly and terrible kingdom would come to dominion a second time with one mighty king ruling ten others in earth who do his Will.

What I mean to say is Daniel saw the same things John did before they happened when the first king began to rule and johns vision is happening during the Riegn of the 6th kingdom almost seven hundred years after Babylon ruled now rome was ruling so we see the passage of time from 600bc to 50-95 ad when John saw his visions