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Well, Daniel is the only book in the Bible where chapters are deliberately placed out of chronological order. Chapters 7 and 8 were written before chapter 5, and chapter 9 was written before chapter 6.
What I'm getting at is this: in 12:4 God commanded Daniel to "Seal and conceal these words until the time of the end," then in 12:9, God told Daniel, "These words are sealed and concealed until the time of the end."
Now 12:4 is a command, so Daniel has to do something between 12:4 and 12:9 to seal the book. However, Daniel couldn't rewrite or in any way change what the Kodesh Ruach (the Holy Spirit) had already inspired him to write, but he must have done something. And what do we find? Some of Daniel's chapters are rearranged out of chronological order! That isn't just a careless scribal error, it is deliberate, but what does it mean?
What I'm getting at is this: in 12:4 God commanded Daniel to "Seal and conceal these words until the time of the end," then in 12:9, God told Daniel, "These words are sealed and concealed until the time of the end."
Now 12:4 is a command, so Daniel has to do something between 12:4 and 12:9 to seal the book. However, Daniel couldn't rewrite or in any way change what the Kodesh Ruach (the Holy Spirit) had already inspired him to write, but he must have done something. And what do we find? Some of Daniel's chapters are rearranged out of chronological order! That isn't just a careless scribal error, it is deliberate, but what does it mean?
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LOL, are you sure you want to know? OK, OK, I'll do it, but first we need to look at something else unique about Daniel. His book is written in two languages: Daniel 2:4 through 7:28 are in Chaldee, the court language of the Babylonians which later morphed into the Aramaic spoken by Jesus (in fact, the first vision in Daniel 2, the great image, was given to Nebuchadnezzar, a gentile king), while Daniel 8 through 12 is in Hebrew.
Those two languages show the book to be bifidc, i.e., that Daniel, like Isaiah, is split into two separate halves, giving us figurative pictures of different future events that would take place during the same time frame.
But why the two languages?
Those two languages show the book to be bifidc, i.e., that Daniel, like Isaiah, is split into two separate halves, giving us figurative pictures of different future events that would take place during the same time frame.
But why the two languages?
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The chronological order of the Bible is done via prophecy. Daniel was a prophet, so he prophesied about a lot of events that took place in chronological order after receiving visions from God. One of the most easily read is the prophecy about the Physical fall of the kingdom of Babylon, in which Daniel described in detail what kingdoms would attack Babylon, what would happen to those kingdoms - and accurately covered 400 or so years of detailed prophecy on how Babylon fell.
In chronological order.
Prophecy, please pray to understand prophecy or else the Bible will remain sealed.
In chronological order.
Prophecy, please pray to understand prophecy or else the Bible will remain sealed.
Maybe he wanted us to search out the truth. . .as buried treasure!
My son, if you accept my words and store up my commands within you, turning your ear to wisdom and applying your heart to understanding-- indeed, if you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding, and if you look for it as for silver and search for it as for hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the LORD and FIND the knowledge of God.
My son, if you accept my words and store up my commands within you, turning your ear to wisdom and applying your heart to understanding-- indeed, if you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding, and if you look for it as for silver and search for it as for hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the LORD and FIND the knowledge of God.
Thats what i was thinking to
Daniel 12:1-2 (KJV)
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great princewhich standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time oftrouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: andat that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be foundwritten in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shallawake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Most denominations say only the good rise at the 1st ressurection. The 1Cor.15 event. They also say only the bad rise at the great white thrown. Scripture above has them both rising at the same time. Both good and bad
Daniel 12:1-2 (KJV)
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great princewhich standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time oftrouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: andat that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be foundwritten in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shallawake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Most denominations say only the good rise at the 1st ressurection. The 1Cor.15 event. They also say only the bad rise at the great white thrown. Scripture above has them both rising at the same time. Both good and bad
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Exactly! Now let's go back a bit and look at when two specific prophets were placed in time and why. The first, Hosea. When Israel was about to fall to the Assyrians 725-721 B.C., God commanded Hosea to prophesying to the northern kingdom what their future would be after they were dispersed into Gentile lands, specifically into the Caucasus Mountains region. His prophecy continues to be fulfilled unto this day.
The second, Daniel, Was placed when he was for exactly the same reason. The Jews were taken captive to Babylon in 606 B.C. where they remained in captivity for 70 years just as Jeremiah had prophesied, until 536 B.C. But Daniel is split in two, so he has a dual message: Chapters 2 through 7 are about the four major Gentile empires (and their descendents) who will have dominion over the holy land during "the time of the Gentiles." Chapters 8 through 12 are to the Jews, and about their coming Messiah and their future during that same "time of the Gentiles."
But both halfs are chiasms, a well-known and universally accepted Hebrew poetic form that's the key to properly interpreting both Daniel and Revelation.
So what is a chiasm?
The second, Daniel, Was placed when he was for exactly the same reason. The Jews were taken captive to Babylon in 606 B.C. where they remained in captivity for 70 years just as Jeremiah had prophesied, until 536 B.C. But Daniel is split in two, so he has a dual message: Chapters 2 through 7 are about the four major Gentile empires (and their descendents) who will have dominion over the holy land during "the time of the Gentiles." Chapters 8 through 12 are to the Jews, and about their coming Messiah and their future during that same "time of the Gentiles."
But both halfs are chiasms, a well-known and universally accepted Hebrew poetic form that's the key to properly interpreting both Daniel and Revelation.
So what is a chiasm?
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Hi wall.
I think that might be referring to the second resurrection after the 1000 years if finished
The people that survive the tribulation then the wrath of God
The people that get saved during our reign with Christ that thousand years on earth
It’s the only way I can see it fitting.
What do you think?
I think that might be referring to the second resurrection after the 1000 years if finished
The people that survive the tribulation then the wrath of God
The people that get saved during our reign with Christ that thousand years on earth
It’s the only way I can see it fitting.
What do you think?
