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If I may just quickly explain, the 613 Mitzvot Laws were given to the Jews by the Levite Priests who are from the same tribe as Moses and that is why it is called the Mosaic law. It was written many years after the death of Moses and Jews say it came down to them through the oral law. Many of these laws contradict the Ten Commandments for example the law that says not to kill. The stoning of women taken in adultery is one example of the breaking of the 6th commandment. 
They are not any man made laws, about which Jesus had something to say (Mt 15:2-9).
I thought the passage was worth putting up.
Mat 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Mat 15:3 And he (Jesus) answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition?
Mat 15:4 For God said, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, He that speaketh evil of father or mother, let him die the death.
Mat 15:5 But ye say, whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, That wherewith thou mightest have been profited by me is given to God; he shall not honor his father. And ye have made void the word of God because of your tradition.
Mat 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, this people honoreth me with their lips; But their heart is far from me. But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men.
Mat 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Mat 15:3 And he (Jesus) answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition?
Mat 15:4 For God said, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, He that speaketh evil of father or mother, let him die the death.
Mat 15:5 But ye say, whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, That wherewith thou mightest have been profited by me is given to God; he shall not honor his father. And ye have made void the word of God because of your tradition.
Mat 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, this people honoreth me with their lips; But their heart is far from me. But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men.
I thought the passage was worth putting up.
Mat 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Mat 15:3 And he (Jesus) answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition?
Mat 15:4 For God said, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, He that speaketh evil of father or mother, let him die the death.
Mat 15:5 But ye say, whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, That wherewith thou mightest have been profited by me is given to God; he shall not honor his father. And ye have made void the word of God because of your tradition.
Mat 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, this people honoreth me with their lips; But their heart is far from me. But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men.
Mat 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
Mat 15:3 And he (Jesus) answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition?
Mat 15:4 For God said, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, He that speaketh evil of father or mother, let him die the death.
Mat 15:5 But ye say, whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, That wherewith thou mightest have been profited by me is given to God; he shall not honor his father. And ye have made void the word of God because of your tradition.
Mat 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, this people honoreth me with their lips; But their heart is far from me. But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men.
H
Hi Elin,
What is "habitual" sin?
I have yet to find anybody who can define this. And it is important to know as the doctrine you follow suggests that anybody in "habitual" sin is of the devil (1John 3:8).
Is "habitual" exceeding 7x70?
And over what period is it calculated? We all life different life spans, so is it dependent on how often you sin over a given period?
This doctrine also implies that God has limit's to His forgiveness of our lifestyles/behavior. What is God limit of forgiveness?
And can you offer scriptures to support the details of what is "habitual" sin.
Thanks.
What is "habitual" sin?
I have yet to find anybody who can define this. And it is important to know as the doctrine you follow suggests that anybody in "habitual" sin is of the devil (1John 3:8).
Is "habitual" exceeding 7x70?
And over what period is it calculated? We all life different life spans, so is it dependent on how often you sin over a given period?
This doctrine also implies that God has limit's to His forgiveness of our lifestyles/behavior. What is God limit of forgiveness?
And can you offer scriptures to support the details of what is "habitual" sin.
Thanks.
H
If you don't know how to answer my questions, that's okay. I've asked many others what is "habitual" sin and they also could not give an answer.
I've found the "habitual" sin doctrine to be a contradiction to scripture.
Some Bible versions translate 1John 3:9 as "cannot sin" whereas others use ambiguous terms such as "practice" or "habitual" sin.
The "cannot" sin version is however, consistent with the gospel.
Christ's sacrifice dealt only with past sin at the cross, Rom 3:25.
After we receive Christ there is no more sin. We've "ceased from sin" (1Pet 4:1), "cannot sin" 1John 3:9.
Sin is defined as transgression of the law (1John 3:4). But, in Christ, we are not under the law (Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 5:18, Gal 3:25, 1Tim 1:9). Hence we cannot be charged with transgression/sin.
Sin is defined as unrighteousness (1John 5:17). But, our faith is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5. Hence we cannot be charged with unrighteousness/sin.
Sin is defined as unbelief in Jesus (John 16:9). But Christians believe in Jesus. Hence we cannot be charged with unbelief/sin.
Rom 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
I've found the "habitual" sin doctrine to be a contradiction to scripture.
Some Bible versions translate 1John 3:9 as "cannot sin" whereas others use ambiguous terms such as "practice" or "habitual" sin.
The "cannot" sin version is however, consistent with the gospel.
Christ's sacrifice dealt only with past sin at the cross, Rom 3:25.
After we receive Christ there is no more sin. We've "ceased from sin" (1Pet 4:1), "cannot sin" 1John 3:9.
Sin is defined as transgression of the law (1John 3:4). But, in Christ, we are not under the law (Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 5:18, Gal 3:25, 1Tim 1:9). Hence we cannot be charged with transgression/sin.
Sin is defined as unrighteousness (1John 5:17). But, our faith is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5. Hence we cannot be charged with unrighteousness/sin.
Sin is defined as unbelief in Jesus (John 16:9). But Christians believe in Jesus. Hence we cannot be charged with unbelief/sin.
Rom 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
E
Why can't you all get that fact that sin is done with? Yes, you will sin, and anyone who says otherwise makes God a liar. But, if sin was the reason we go to Hell, then there would be absolutely no use of Christ dying for us. Everyone's always talking about their works and deeds and how that can save them. But, if your works and deeds can save you, then why do you need Jesus? The door is right there. Just walk away. You're looking for an answer. God, can help you. Don't let the opportunity slip away. Use it while you have it in the palm of your hands.