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Hello Blain,
There are a couple of good reasons as to what you are suggesting cannot and will not happen. First of all faith is in-birthed by God to those He foreknew and those He foreknew he predestined, and those he predestined He called, and those He called he justified, and those He justified He glorified. It is God who does the choosing, the One who calls and the One who gives each of us a measure of faith. That said, unless God gave a measure of faith to the fallen angels, they ain't comin'.
"For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you."
"Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,"
As you can see from the above, faith is given by God and repentance is Granted by Him as well.
"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast."
As for the fallen angels, their fate has already been written of in God's word and what has been written must be fulfilled, otherwise it would bring God's word in question.
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
Another reason as to why fallen angels cannot be saved, is because the Lord left heaven and became a human being. He had to kin himself to us in the flesh in order to make atonement for all flesh, for scripture states that, for just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. That being said, Christ's payment only covers those in the flesh and not those fallen angels who are spiritual beings. I might add that, since faith is the things hoped for but not yet seen for human beings, what hope would fallen angels need to have who were already in his presence and whose abode was already in heaven?
There are many more reasons as to why Satan and his angels cannot be saved, but I think that the above pretty much covers it. And the following must take place:
"And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
There are a couple of good reasons as to what you are suggesting cannot and will not happen. First of all faith is in-birthed by God to those He foreknew and those He foreknew he predestined, and those he predestined He called, and those He called he justified, and those He justified He glorified. It is God who does the choosing, the One who calls and the One who gives each of us a measure of faith. That said, unless God gave a measure of faith to the fallen angels, they ain't comin'.
"For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you."
"Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,"
As you can see from the above, faith is given by God and repentance is Granted by Him as well.
"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast."
As for the fallen angels, their fate has already been written of in God's word and what has been written must be fulfilled, otherwise it would bring God's word in question.
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
Another reason as to why fallen angels cannot be saved, is because the Lord left heaven and became a human being. He had to kin himself to us in the flesh in order to make atonement for all flesh, for scripture states that, for just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. That being said, Christ's payment only covers those in the flesh and not those fallen angels who are spiritual beings. I might add that, since faith is the things hoped for but not yet seen for human beings, what hope would fallen angels need to have who were already in his presence and whose abode was already in heaven?
There are many more reasons as to why Satan and his angels cannot be saved, but I think that the above pretty much covers it. And the following must take place:
"And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
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Say Blain, it is an interesting question but from where I see it I got this feeling.... God knows everything, past, present and future and always has..... I got the feeling HE knew what old what's his name was up to and gave him every chance to change his way of thinking or feeling or whatever... I don't think he decided just on the spur of the moment "today's a good day to take the thrown"... Not only would he have God to go through but I'm sure Jesus and especially Michael woulda had a lot to say about that....