Did Jesus abolish the law? Should we keep the commandments?
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"Christ not only didn't "abolish" the law, he explained
that Gods expects us to obey it in spirit as well as letter."
you have to determine what " the law" referred to is. the covenant law is the ten commandments, they are the work of Gods own hand. then there is the Law God gave to moses specifically to govern them until the coming of the messiah, which was always going to be the end of the book of the Law. alot of folks struggle with this subject because they think paul is referring to all law rather than the book of the Mosaic Law when He says things like this
colossians 2: 13-14 "And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; "
this is a reference to the Mosaic Book of the Law, that God made moses write for a specific purpose of being against the people, a witness against them the book is completed and then placed beside the ark for the purpose of witnessing against those who transgressed the covenant Law that was Gods Law. and was inside the ark, the Most Holy place where Gods glory would appear to moses.
the book of the Law is what is contrary to us its the purpose of the book, in it there is no mercy allowed upon our fellow sinners God says " you must surely put the sinner to death, show no mercy, no pity you must purge thee sin from among you" he has all the detailed letters that are all based upon the covenant Law. and always there is punishment commanded upon a transgressor without mercy, the others were commanded to kill brutaly the sinner upon the accusation of only 2 witnesses. the book of the Law is not for Christians, the covenant Law is for all mankind. the book of the mosaic Law is for this purpose
deuteronomy 31:And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, 25That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26Take this book of the law, and put it beside of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
27For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death? 28Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them. 29For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands."
this is what was taken out of the way, the Law is against sinners, it is not against the righteous it is for them. a thief is contrary to the law " thou shalt not steal" but one who doesnt covet and steal....the law is for him, it protects His possessions from thieves.
to a violent killer the law " thou shalt not kill" is contrary to them, but to one who lives at peace with all men, the law is for that man, to protect his life, his loived ones lives.....ect. God has not and will never change, He has given the gospel to those who will believe in order to change them from the Heart through the Gospel of Our Lord.
the Law of moses is not for christians, to govern them, the Gospel does that. they are different in purpose. One says " when you sin you must surely be put to death" the other says " you have sinned many times before, i freely forgive you all of those sins that demand death upon you, and i will take your place to satisfy justice...Now Go and sin no more. salvation through repentance rather than an enduring sentance of death upon all who have sinned and fallen short
The 4th is the divider.. when all said and done it is the 1 that each of us decides if it is to be Kept seperate..
My Belief is while we abide here it is a delight not a burden.. because the Messiah taught the Truth of it is lawful to do good and that it was made for man not man for Sabbath.. Loving GOD is in Keeping His Commandments not to the letter but through the Spirit.. I’m at liberty under Grace so I do not fear being stoned for what I do or do not.. Keeping the Greatest and the second like it.. Faith that worketh by love.. here is my tupence: if I was offered a job with lots of money but it meant working and not Resting I will not accept.. if a person asks of me for help I do it for the Love of GOD and my neighbour.. no gains.. lawful to do good..
I do not judge anyone.. and each should do all things in Faith of the Lord..
The Lord taught us to Keep and teach even the Least Commandment.. not enforce and judge each other..
p.s .. I’m justified by Faith in my Lord.. and only doing what He instructs .. unworthy servant that will not be entering in to the Kingdom of GOD because I remember to keep Sabbath seperate but because I Believe... the above is what I have used my Liberty in Christ for while under Grace.. until I put on the immortal at the Lord’s will.
My Belief is while we abide here it is a delight not a burden.. because the Messiah taught the Truth of it is lawful to do good and that it was made for man not man for Sabbath.. Loving GOD is in Keeping His Commandments not to the letter but through the Spirit.. I’m at liberty under Grace so I do not fear being stoned for what I do or do not.. Keeping the Greatest and the second like it.. Faith that worketh by love.. here is my tupence: if I was offered a job with lots of money but it meant working and not Resting I will not accept.. if a person asks of me for help I do it for the Love of GOD and my neighbour.. no gains.. lawful to do good..
I do not judge anyone.. and each should do all things in Faith of the Lord..
The Lord taught us to Keep and teach even the Least Commandment.. not enforce and judge each other..
p.s .. I’m justified by Faith in my Lord.. and only doing what He instructs .. unworthy servant that will not be entering in to the Kingdom of GOD because I remember to keep Sabbath seperate but because I Believe... the above is what I have used my Liberty in Christ for while under Grace.. until I put on the immortal at the Lord’s will.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Israel does love their law. They wear the Torah between their eyes. And if you ever see pictures of their soldiers, you will see it. They have the Torah with them and read it faithfully.
And they will be saved.
I said we have a greater covenant than this.
Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
We have inherited Sonship. All that is of Jesus, He left for us to live out.
Israel inherited land.
Israel does love their law. They wear the Torah between their eyes. And if you ever see pictures of their soldiers, you will see it. They have the Torah with them and read it faithfully.
And they will be saved.
I said we have a greater covenant than this.
Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
We have inherited Sonship. All that is of Jesus, He left for us to live out.
Israel inherited land.
I think we disagree on much..
There is a New Covenant for all that Believe in the Son of GOD.. GOD’s Law is written in our hearts and put in our minds through Faith in the Messiah.
jew or gentile alike you are to Believe to be grafted in to the Truve Vine by GOD..
they cant read it Faithfully Stones because they would of accepted the Son of GOD..
Israel you speak of Love their Covenant given through Moses.. they love not GOD or His Law..
also I don’t know who those people are abiding In the land called Israel(GOD knows all things.).. because we are taught there will be imposters and a synagogue of satan etc... but the Children of Israel are scattered so some will come to Believe in due time even there.... in the meantime I will not assist the evil Rebellion and their quest.. knowing all things come to pass leading to the Harvest.
I know we disagree on much loveme.
[h=2]Ministers of the New Covenant[/h]2Co 3:1 Are we beginning to recommend ourselves again? Unlike some people, we do not need letters of recommendation to you or from you, do we?
2Co 3:2 You are our letter, written in our hearts and known and read by everyone.
2Co 3:3 You are demonstrating that you are the Messiah's letter, produced by our service, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
2Co 3:4 Such is the confidence that we have in God through the Messiah.
2Co 3:5 By ourselves we are not qualified to claim that anything comes from us. Rather, our credentials come from God,
2Co 3:6 who has also qualified us to be ministers of a new covenant, which is not written but spiritual, because the written text brings death, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 Now if the ministry of death that was inscribed in letters of stone came with such glory that the people of Israel could not gaze on Moses' face (because the glory was fading away from it),
2Co 3:8 will not the Spirit's ministry have even more glory?
The New Covenant is Christ in me, the hope of glory. The Living Anointed Son of God. He is our inheritance. Holy Spirit within is the beginning.
The old covenant is the law written within men's hearts. They love the Torah. The written Torah. And it's worship of the written that is their stumbling.
Why Israel does not recognise Messiah?
2Co 3:14 However, their minds were hardened, for to this day the same veil is still there when they read the old covenant. Only in union with the Messiah is that veil removed.
2Co 3:15 Yet even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.
2Co 3:16 But whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is removed.
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Lord's Spirit is, there is freedom.
2Co 3:18 As all of us reflect the glory of the Lord with unveiled faces, we are becoming more like him with ever-increasing glory by the Lord's Spirit.
Do you see the difference now?
[h=2]Ministers of the New Covenant[/h]2Co 3:1 Are we beginning to recommend ourselves again? Unlike some people, we do not need letters of recommendation to you or from you, do we?
2Co 3:2 You are our letter, written in our hearts and known and read by everyone.
2Co 3:3 You are demonstrating that you are the Messiah's letter, produced by our service, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.
2Co 3:4 Such is the confidence that we have in God through the Messiah.
2Co 3:5 By ourselves we are not qualified to claim that anything comes from us. Rather, our credentials come from God,
2Co 3:6 who has also qualified us to be ministers of a new covenant, which is not written but spiritual, because the written text brings death, but the Spirit gives life.
2Co 3:7 Now if the ministry of death that was inscribed in letters of stone came with such glory that the people of Israel could not gaze on Moses' face (because the glory was fading away from it),
2Co 3:8 will not the Spirit's ministry have even more glory?
The New Covenant is Christ in me, the hope of glory. The Living Anointed Son of God. He is our inheritance. Holy Spirit within is the beginning.
The old covenant is the law written within men's hearts. They love the Torah. The written Torah. And it's worship of the written that is their stumbling.
Why Israel does not recognise Messiah?
2Co 3:14 However, their minds were hardened, for to this day the same veil is still there when they read the old covenant. Only in union with the Messiah is that veil removed.
2Co 3:15 Yet even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.
2Co 3:16 But whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is removed.
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Lord's Spirit is, there is freedom.
2Co 3:18 As all of us reflect the glory of the Lord with unveiled faces, we are becoming more like him with ever-increasing glory by the Lord's Spirit.
Do you see the difference now?
Deuteronomy 6:5 “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.”
Leviticus 19:18 “You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.”
Hosea 6:5-6 “Therefore I have hewn them by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of my mouth, and my judgment goes forth as the light.6 For I desire steadfast love and not sacrifice, the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings.”
The Lord has always desired a relationship with us, Jesus when asked what is the greatest commandment in the Law.
Matthew 22:34-40 “But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together.35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him.36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?”37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.38 This is the great and first commandment.39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
By keeping these two, you will never brake the 10. Jesus fulfills the Law and the Prophets, Matthew 5:17-20
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”
He fulfills the Law in His perfect life and fulfills the Prophets in His suffering, death and resurrection to glory, Hebrews 5:7-10
“In the days of his flesh, Jesus offered up prayers and supplications, with loud cries and tears, to him who was able to save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverence.8 Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered.9 And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him,10 being designated by God a high priest after the order of Melchizedek.”
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Yep he fulfilled it
he had to fulfill it because we can’t, the only reason he could die for us and REMOE the curse of the law. Is because unlike us, he fulfilled it.
now there is a better way, We can now learn to live as Christ did, as he loved us, and gave the example. In this we can love others. And in doing this, we will be obedient to his commands (but not perfect)
So the non-changing God changed His mind...... 
It was not a commandment to have more than one wife, He has always had the great commandent and the second was like it. Keep the two and you will never brake the 10.
Deuteronomy 6:5 “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.”
Leviticus 19:18 “You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.”
Hosea 6:5-6 “Therefore I have hewn them by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of my mouth, and my judgment goes forth as the light.6 For I desire steadfast love and not sacrifice, the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings.”
Jesus when asked what is the greatest commandment in the Law.
Matthew 22:34-40 “But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together.35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him.36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?”37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.38 This is the great and first commandment.39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”
He has always wanted mercy, Matthew 23:23-24 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.24 Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!”
Zechariah 7:9-10 “Thus says the Lord of hosts:‘Execute true justice, show mercy and compassion everyone to his brother.10 Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless, the alien or the poor. Let none of you plan evil in his heart against his brother.’”