Did mankind walk with dinosaurs in the bible yes or no?

Blain · May 1, 2018

I'm sorry I don't understand what does the fact that death did not enter the world until sin have anything to do with Dinosaurs walking on earth with man or God the scriptures saying so?

Magenta · May 1, 2018

Blain said:

There would have been no animals killing other animals, or humans, pre-sin/fall of creation.

mcubed · May 1, 2018

Blain said:

Where the dinosaurs on Earth? Did the dinosaurs die? When did the Bible say death entered the Earth? Read Genesis....

By the way you are one of my favorites but read the Scripture what does it tell you about when death entered the Earth? Can they have died before death entered according to G-d?

Blain · May 1, 2018

Magenta said:

Ya but that seems to be grasping for straws there

Blain · May 1, 2018

mcubed said:

Ok but that is a pretty vague conclusion it doesn't even seem to have any relevance to the dinosaurs themselves

Gabriel2020 · May 1, 2018

THE age they died tells you how long they lived. the bible tells you the age of each one's death, meaning that is how long they were on the earth, even though their fathers were still living, except for Adam. We know that Adam was 930 years old plus the 5 days before God put him here. At least you know upon his death the earth was 935 years ld.

Magenta · May 1, 2018

Blain said:

How so? The argument is always that man and dinosaurs could not co-exist, because dinos are understood to be mostly carnivorous. But since death did not enter the world until Adam sinned, they would not have been eating other animals, or been a threat to humans. It is not a stretch at all if you think it through. You either believe what the Bible says, or you do not. Death entered the world due to one man's sin.

Johnny_B · May 1, 2018

Prognostic said:

Here are fossilized human footprints along side Dino. https://www.cmnh.org/laetoli-footprints

Fossilized footprints of humans and dinosaurs article from NY Times from 1986. Why hasn't this been shown to students. https://www.nytimes.com/1986/06/17/science/fossils-of-man-tracks-shown-to-be-dinosaurian.html

Carbon dating is only for organic material only. https://www.radiocarbon.com/about-carbon-dating.htm

Genesis 2:19-20 “Now out of the ground the Lord God had formed every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. 20The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper fit for him.”

Here in the Genesis account we see that there are animals that are called beasts and creatures, these were bigger than cattle or livestock with creature having the idea of them being frightening. So this or these could be dinos. Job 40;15-18

“Behold, Behemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox. 16Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. 17He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. 18His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron.”

This sounds like the largest dino can't remember the name of them. Then there is Leviathan Job 3:8

“Let those curse it who curse the day, who are ready to rouse up Leviathan.”

Job 41:1-2 “Can you draw out Leviathan with a fishhook or press down his tongue with a cord? 2Can you put a rope in his nose”

Psalm 104:26 HCSB “There the ships move about, and Leviathan, which You formed to play there.”

Isaiah 27:1 “In that day the Lord with his hard and great and strong sword will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, Leviathan the twisting serpent, and he will slay the dragon that is in the sea.”

Behemoth and Leviathan creatures that were around during mans time and they are larger then other animals, the discription of Behemoth as I mentioned is of the Papo Brachiosauras, who eats grass or vegitation like the Ox?

Gabriel2020 · May 1, 2018

The book of Job tells you that they did as God began to call them out by name. My belief is that if these animals were as huge as they appear to be, then so was man. It was a balanced scale between man and beast. At the size mankind are now, they would have been eaten up in no time.

zeroturbulence · May 1, 2018

Of course man walked with dinosaurs... Here is proof!!

Blain · May 1, 2018

Magenta said:

I still don't understand though maybe it's above my head or something but even if they didn't eat other things before adam and eve sinned after they sinned not only would the ones like raptors or T rex's eat people but it still doesn't show anything about the dino's themselves, the entire theory is based on before sin and has no real solid foundation to sit on aside from that before sin there was no death.

Magenta · May 1, 2018

Blain said:

I still don't understand though maybe it's above my head or something but even if they didn't eat other things before adam and eve sinned after they sinned not only would the ones like raptors or T rex's eat people but it still doesn't show anything about the dino's themselves, the entire theory is based on before sin and has no real solid foundation to sit on aside from that before sin there was no death.

The whole theory is up in the air because nobody knows the timelines.

Ahwatukee · May 1, 2018

Gabriel2020 said:

Hello Gabriel2020,

The earth was not 935 years old when Adam died. If you look at the scripture, you will see that the earth was already here, empty, without form and covered with water. The six days of creation has to do with what was created on the earth, as well as the sun, moon and stars. However, the earth was already existing prior to what God created on it and for it. Therefore, we have no idea when the earth was first created and how long it has been around.

Gabriel2020 · May 1, 2018

I believe they developed a taste for animals as time went on. Abel was not just raising sheep for their wool only. After bringing the first of his fat potions to God which he consumed with fire. They were never meant to eat each other. meat was called anything edible, from herbs to flesh.

Gabriel2020 · May 1, 2018

It was nothing but a rock forming in the water without life. It became a creation when God separated from the waters.. It is possible that God formed the earth while it was still in the water, and void means that it is there but cannot be seen,and it had no shape. . The question is how long did it take him to create it under or in the water, since it was the water that brought it into existance in the first place. Here you have a born on date. the day it was hung on nothing in the expanse.

trofimus · May 1, 2018

MarcR said:

There are two basic questions that lead to three different answers to your question.

Question 1: Is all that purports to be Science truly scientific; or is a large part of what purports to be science in fact a religion called Secular Humanism.

The Scientific method of inquiry is based on observable repeatable experiment. So called 'Scientific theories on the origins of the universe and the origins of life are NOT based on the scientific method. They are based on a desire to refute the Bible because to acknowledge a creator implies an obligation to be subject to Him.

If we accept the idea that Genesis 1 is indeed God's Word, and reliable then a second question arises.

Question 2:

Does the creation account in Genesis 1 describe original creation or does it describe re-creation after a cataclysmic event.

The grammar of the Hebrew language allows and strongly suggests {but does not demand) that there is a gap in time of undetermined duration between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, and/or between Gen 1:2 and Gen 1:3; and that Genesis Chapter1 describes re-creation after a total destruction perhaps caused by the fall of Satan.

In either case the six days of creation were literal 24 hour days. While it is true that the word translated as 'day can mean an indefinite period of time; indefinite periods of time do not have evening and morning.

If Genesis 1 describes original creation; then humans and dinosaurs must have been contemporary and the earth is approximately 6,000 years old.

If Genesis 1 describes re-creation; the sun, moon, and stars; as well as dinosaurs could be part of a previous creation; and the earth could be as old as 'scientists' think it is.

I suppose that this cataclysmic event you are talking about would be the asteorid that destroyed dinosaurs and made so many changes in ecosystem.

The question is: Why would God destroy His previous creation? There were no people, only animals. So they were not responsible for anything.

If you do not want to present some theories that dinosaurs were creation of Satan etc...

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Blain said:

Why do you have trouble imagining this, since blood-thirsty beasts live near man even to this day? There have been wild tigers in India since before it was called India. Shepherds and farmers in Africa still have to keep guard from lions. Swimming with hippos still gets them killed. I live in Philly, for Pete's sake, and they just captured a coyote in the city, and have had to tranq an occasional black bear. (I saw a dead deer on the entrance to I-95 right smack in the center of Philadelphia 20 years ago. It made me realize early-on, animals don't really have a keen idea that people are a problem, and the more people, the bigger the problem. lol)

"Yeah, but they're smaller than T Rex?" There is evidence mammoth roamed Canada 10,000 years ago and evidence of the real first-"Americans" from 30,000 years ago. Man has always lived with the dangers of mongo-predator animals. I kind of think I'd be more worried about the brontosaurus. With the T. Rex, all you have to do is stay still. With the bronto, if you stay still, it's kind of like staying still in a massive herd of buffalo. They don't really have to notice you, before trampling on you. After all, how many ants do we kill a year, simply because we didn't bother to notice them? lol

And, then there are the ones that were roughly our size that were the scariest -- the raptors.

(And all this, only if scientists got that right.)

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Blain said:

I still don't understand though maybe it's above my head or something but even if they didn't eat other things before adam and eve sinned after they sinned not only would the ones like raptors or T rex's eat people but it still doesn't show anything about the dino's themselves, the entire theory is based on before sin and has no real solid foundation to sit on aside from that before sin there was no death.

The math is in for dinos on the ark. They would have fit!

trofimus · May 1, 2018

Depleted said:

These are all mammals.

The era of mammals has come after the era of dinosaurs. Mammals would stay no chance against them. But survived in a changed ecosystem.

trofimus · May 1, 2018

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I would like to see the math.

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