Discrepancy between Leviticus 23:6 and Matthew 26:17?

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Leviticus 23:6 says : “And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread...” However, Matthew 26:17 says: “Now on the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?”

Any thoughts on the seeming discrepancy?
 
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Leviticus 23:6 says : “And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread...” However, Matthew 26:17 says: “Now on the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?”

Any thoughts on the seeming discrepancy?
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No discrepancy.

The "fifteenth day of the month" and the "first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread" do not mean the same thing.

The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread was Nissan 15, and the last day of the Feast was Nissan 21.
 
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Elin,

re: "The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread was Nissan 15..."


But Matthew indicates that it isn't any later than the 14th.
 
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There are three Passover meals. The first, a family meal, starting the 14th, but eaten the fifteenth, because day begins at evening. The second, the national meal, the 15th, cooked from 12-3 that afternoon. These two meals are both on the first day. And a third, a month later for anyone who missed it (Numbers 9:11). Jesus ate the Last Supper at the first, died during the second cooking time.
 
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Elin,

re: "The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread was Nissan 15..."

But Matthew indicates that it isn't any later than the 14th.
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What is so confusing is that Passover (Nissan 14) and Feast of Unleavened Bread (Nissan 15-21) are often referred to in the NT as just "Passover," or "Unleavened Bread," because they occurred together making it a single eight-day observance.

So in this case, Unleavened Bread is referring to the eight-day observance which includes Passover (Nissan 14).
 
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kenisyes,

re: "Jesus ate the Last Supper at the first, died during the second cooking time."


Why do you think the crucifixion took place on the 15th?
 
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Did the passing over and midnight killing of Egypt's first born take place on the 14th or was it on the 15th?
 
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It has to be that way for two reasons: The fulfillment of the "sign of Jonah" prophecy, and the full moon (and eclipse) dates back then as calculated by modern astronomy. Neither work if the Last Supper was on Thursday. Both work for Wednesday in 27AD. Important confirmations include that Jesus began His ministry at the age of "as if He were 30" in the Greek (the Magi's star was 4-3BC, so Jesus was closer to 28 at the time He started), and that the traditions of Paul's ministry (35 years, died AD 63 under Nero) starting 1 year after the resurrection confirm that as the year.

There is a massive thread where wolfinoxhide and I pounded this out last October. YOU started it: http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/51496-three-days-three-nights.html

The second answer (14th or 15th) is yes to both. The evening of the 14th is the beginning of the 15th. In Israel, the day changes at sunset, not at midnight. On the Jewish calendar, it was overnight on the 15th. By our thinking it started on the 14th into the 15th while they slept.
 
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kenisyes,

re: "It has to be that way for two reasons..."

Although you didn't address your post to anyone, I think it may be in response to my post #6 where I asked why you think the crucifixion took place on the 15th. However, I don't see where your two reasons show a 15th crucifixion.


re: "There is a massive thread where wolfinoxhide and I pounded this out last October. YOU started it: Three Days and Three Nights"

I don't see where you mentioned the 15th in that topic.
 
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rstrats said:
kenisyes,

re: "It has to be that way for two reasons..."

Although you didn't address your post to anyone, I think it may be in response to my post #6 where I asked why you think the crucifixion took place on the 15th. However, I don't see where your two reasons show a 15th crucifixion.


re: "There is a massive thread where wolfinoxhide and I pounded this out last October. YOU started it: Three Days and Three Nights"

I don't see where you mentioned the 15th in that topic.
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It was to you and I answered two posts. I'm working from memory, here. The astronomy says the last supper was on the night of Wednesday of 27AD, when the full moon of the equinox occurred by our calendar on Thursday. Assuming the astronomy was done properly back then, Thursday would have been the 15th, and this is the day Jesus was crucified. The home passover lamb was slaughtered at dusk on the 14th, to be cooked by late evening of that day, which on their calendar was already the 15th. Since the community lamb was cooked on the afternoon of the 15th, it would be eaten at eventide of that day, and all the laws are thus satisfied. The darkness mentioned by Matthew kind of settles it, as that would have to be the total eclipse on that day. Also, the "coincidence" of Jesus being on the cross as the official passover lamb cooked is too great to overlook, and that says they did the astronomy correctly.
 
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kenisyes,

re: " The home passover lamb was slaughtered at dusk on the 14th..."

Are you considering dusk to fall within the beginning portion of the 14th or the ending portion of the 14th?
　


re: "...the community lamb was cooked on the afternoon of the 15th..."

What scripture do you use to support that idea?
 
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