Do verses with the word ''Man" in them mean women are excluded?
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Hmmm so if men isn't exclusive to men in some circumstances...cuz you and I both know what you're gettin at Stephen as far as women preachers....then it follows that women isn't exclusive to women in certain circumstances.
Which in return means the following verses can be read as...
Titus 2:4
4 that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children,
4 that they admonish the young men to love their husbands, to love their children,
1 Timothy 5
Do not rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father, younger men as brothers, 2 older women as mothers, younger women as sisters, with all purity.
Do not rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father, younger men as brothers, 2 older men as mothers, younger men as sisters, with all purity.
A man has to love his husband?:O
We need to treat older men as mothers?:O
We need to treat younger men as sisters?:O
No I'm a stinker, ain't i!
Which in return means the following verses can be read as...
Titus 2:4
4 that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children,
4 that they admonish the young men to love their husbands, to love their children,
1 Timothy 5
Do not rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father, younger men as brothers, 2 older women as mothers, younger women as sisters, with all purity.
Do not rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father, younger men as brothers, 2 older men as mothers, younger men as sisters, with all purity.
A man has to love his husband?:O
We need to treat older men as mothers?:O
We need to treat younger men as sisters?:O
No I'm a stinker, ain't i!
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Hmmm so if men isn't exclusive to men in some circumstances...cuz you and I both know what you're gettin at Stephen as far as women preachers....then it follows that women isn't exclusive to women in certain circumstances.
I knew you couldn't stay away from this.......
I knew you couldn't stay away from this.......
Man - Mankind includes all.
Man may be used as a collective noun.
Just as when we say one does or he is, both include women. These particular grammar rules make all equal. It is very unfortunate that some movements for rights are ignorant of these rules. There was really no need of all the gender replacements and changes in publications.
People, this includes me, will always be foolish about certain things. Just one more reason we all need grace.
Man may be used as a collective noun.
Just as when we say one does or he is, both include women. These particular grammar rules make all equal. It is very unfortunate that some movements for rights are ignorant of these rules. There was really no need of all the gender replacements and changes in publications.
People, this includes me, will always be foolish about certain things. Just one more reason we all need grace.
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I'm sure glad it doesn't! Aren't you?
When in the Old Testament, you have women judges and prophets, and in the New Testament you have women prophets, deacons, and possibly one apostle, who can say that women cannot hold leadership positions or in those positions speak to men? Women are allowed to speak in church, just not in unruly way.
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Id go slow on the Judge business without a definition. And description of what that
entailed...if you do you see her under authority
Yes on prophet
On deacons also unless you can describe the function and parameters biblically.
You cant make this position be qualified as an elder. Possibly it was even over woman.
Apostle? never heard that one unless you mean the Janias in romans. which
2 church fathers merely guessed who that was and didnt come up with an agreement.
Besides whoever it was was not like the 12 and still doesnt qualify them to be eldership.
Can woman talk in church? I agree they can as the bible instructs.
thats my story and im sticking to it
entailed...if you do you see her under authority
Yes on prophet
On deacons also unless you can describe the function and parameters biblically.
You cant make this position be qualified as an elder. Possibly it was even over woman.
Apostle? never heard that one unless you mean the Janias in romans. which
2 church fathers merely guessed who that was and didnt come up with an agreement.
Besides whoever it was was not like the 12 and still doesnt qualify them to be eldership.
Can woman talk in church? I agree they can as the bible instructs.
thats my story and im sticking to it