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Magenta

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Just watch my back with @Magenta @selahsays and one other member who are spreading lies about me on this Forum-accusing me of using different aliases and plagiarism-accusers of the brethren and I might report them to the Staff member.
And as to premonitions I have discernment from the Holy Spirit and as to the doctrine of sanctification-feel free to share what you know as I have made an in depth study on this, in the Hebrew Text and Greek.
Doesn't mean I know it all-I have just learned a bit on open theism and it is shocking.
Thanks
J.
I have not accused you of having multiple aliases. And you do use multiple sources without giving credit. You
have been doing this for some time. When I first asked you about it, you declined to answer, then eventually
demanded I apologize to you for some strange reason, even though I am letting you know that your bent
toward plagiarism is against the rules. How many times are you going to falsely accuse me, you little fox? Eh?
 

Johann

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I would rather say that Knowledge helps in making a choice, getting knowledge is also a choice. God directs us to know scripture and follow his word.

Psa 119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

Psa 32:8 I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.
Love the signature brother.
 

Magenta

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#83
Just watch my back with @Magenta @selahsays and one other member who are spreading lies about me on this Forum-accusing me of using different aliases and plagiarism-accusers of the brethren and I might report them to the Staff member.
And as to premonitions I have discernment from the Holy Spirit and as to the doctrine of sanctification-feel free to share what you know as I have made an in depth study on this, in the Hebrew Text and Greek.
Doesn't mean I know it all-I have just learned a bit on open theism and it is shocking.
Thanks
J.
@Oncefallen this user continues to spread lies about me.
 

Pilgrimshope

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#84
Just watch my back with @Magenta @selahsays and one other member who are spreading lies about me on this Forum-accusing me of using different aliases and plagiarism-accusers of the brethren and I might report them to the Staff member.
And as to premonitions I have discernment from the Holy Spirit and as to the doctrine of sanctification-feel free to share what you know as I have made an in depth study on this, in the Hebrew Text and Greek.
Doesn't mean I know it all-I have just learned a bit on open theism and it is shocking.
Thanks
J.
oh I don’t know anything about any of that I’m just here to discuss the Bible with other likeminded folks seeking the a better understanding of the truth like I am
 

Thunderrr-mental

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#85
Just watch my back with @Magenta @selahsays and one other member who are spreading lies about me on this Forum-accusing me of using different aliases and plagiarism-accusers of the brethren and I might report them to the Staff member.
And as to premonitions I have discernment from the Holy Spirit and as to the doctrine of sanctification-feel free to share what you know as I have made an in depth study on this, in the Hebrew Text and Greek.
Doesn't mean I know it all-I have just learned a bit on open theism and it is shocking.
Thanks
J.
Just forget about that.

So basically Johan for 15 years I have had dreams where by in my dream the exact events play out for real in life.

Its never more than one year before a dream I have comes true in real life.

And when it comes true it is in every detail it was in the dream.

I'll give you one example of hundreds

In my dream I walked down into a valley a cross a narrow steel bar 6 inches wide 6 foot above a river, I picked up some stones on the other side, filled my bag, walked back across the same steel pole, lost my balance, cut my hands on the bar trying to hold on,

The weight of the rocks pulled me down.

I dropped into the water.

I got out onto the river bank only to realise my car keys where still in the water,

My hands pouring with blood went back into the water and i found my car keys and went home.

1 year later this happened as it happened in my dream.

I knew I had been there in my dream and I saw my self falling of, but I ignored it. And just carried on
 

Inquisitor

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I can see that I'm not very "popular"-but I am here for truth-not the opinions of men-to preach Christ and the gospel -For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

There is an infinite difference between the corrupt intellect of man—that is, the Arminians and other proponents of free will—and the Holy Scriptures. The question is: Does the obtaining of salvation proceed from man? Is he the only and essential cause of his salvation, or is God the only essential cause and can man, being absolutely incapable, do nothing to obtain salvation?

The Arminians will readily admit that God has prepared and accomplished salvation and that God has given and revealed Christ the Mediator. However, they attribute this acceptance and entering in upon that way to the good will and power of man. This could be likened to what transpires on a race track. The government has put the prize on display and has prepared the track. The acquisition of the prize, however, is contingent upon the runners themselves.

In order to protect the idol of man’s own ability and of his good will as being the cause of his own salvation, the Arminians would prefer to do away with the distinction between the external and internal call, between the noneffectual and the effectual call.

They would view them as being the same, and thus recognize only one calling. The effect would then not be due to the efficacious operation of God working more in one person than in another. Instead, it would be related to the outcome; namely, that the one person obeys the call by his free will (which enables him either to respond or to reject this call) and thus be saved. Another person will despise and reject this call by the same neutral free will. Scripture, however, rebukes and refutes such foolish thoughts and demonstrates first of all that the calling is effectual unto salvation as a result of God’s purpose, “...who are the called according to his purpose” (Rom. 8:28); “for the gifts and calling of God are without repentance” (Rom. 11:29).

“And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed” (Acts 13:48). Scripture conveys in the second place that there is no distinction in man himself, but that this distinction originates with God. “For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?” (1 Cor. 4:7). Man, however, by attributing the cause of one having more faith than another to his goodness and power, would create such a distinction.

There is thus a calling which is of an effectual nature and penetrates the inner man—his intellect, will, and inclinations, changing and sanctifying them. This is the internal call . There is a calling by means of the Word of God which is not accompanied by God’s effectual operation (which generates faith and love), but which comes to the external ear only. It leaves man in his natural state, who, in his wickedness, rejects this external call. He despises this call due to his free will which wills by way of necessary consequence. This is true of most who are called (Matt. 22:5, 14). We shall discuss both calls individually, considering the external call first.

What do you think? Is salvation from man-a work-or is it from God-God's work? And who exactly is opening the door? Unless, of course, you totally disagree with the post-

Shalom
J.
Salvation is by grace from start to finish. Salvation is presented in the form of a gift.

We cannot contribute to our salvation as Ephesians 2:8 says we cannot contribute to the gift of salvation.

The significance of Ephesians 2:8 is that it is a formal declaration by Paul. Of God's reconciliation of mankind to Himself
through His Son, Jesus Christ.

Our entire Christian life is lived is based on that trust in Jesus Christ.

So why does one person believe and ten other people not believe?

The answer is simple.

God is love and that is the penultimate truth concerning His nature.

God loves everyone unconditionally, fact.

It is not that God cannot save everyone, it is that God allows some level of self determination.

God desires that all men are saved but if they choose to resist they can do so.
 

Johann

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oh I don’t know anything about any of that I’m just here to discuss the Bible with other likeminded folks seeking the a better understanding of the truth like I am
Love our brother Paul-

1Co 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
1Co 2:3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
1Co 2:4
And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.


my speech. Exo_4:10, *Act_20:27.
preaching. 1Co_1:21; 1Co_15:1; 1Co_15:11, 2Co_10:10, Gal_2:2, Col_4:4, +2Ti_4:17, 1Pe_1:25.
not with. 1Co_2:1; 1Co_2:13, 1Co_1:17, Jdg_14:15; Jdg_16:5, 2Sa_14:17-20; 2Sa_15:2-6, 1Ki_22:13-14, 2Ch_18:19-21, Pro_7:21; Pro_20:19, Jer_20:10, Eze_13:6; Eze_13:10-11, Rom_16:18, Col_2:4, 1Th_2:4, 2Ti_4:3, 2Pe_1:16; 2Pe_2:18.
enticing. or, persuasible. Gr. peithos (S# G3981). Act_26:28, Gal_1:10.
words of. 1Co_2:1; 1Co_2:13, 1Co_1:17, Joh_4:41, Act_24:1, 2Co_1:12.
but. 1Co_4:20, Jdg_7:2, Mar_16:20, Joh_16:8-15, Act_6:10, Rom_15:13; Rom_15:19, *2Co_3:3, *1Th_1:5, 1Pe_1:12.
demonstration. Gr. apodeixis (S# G585). 1Co_4:9, 1Th_1:5.
Spirit. Gr. pneuma, FS121A1, +Luk_1:17 note. 2Co_6:6.
and. FS93A, +Gen_1:26, By Hendiadys, the power of the Spirit. Two words used, but one thing meant.
power. 1Co_4:20, Mic_3:8, Zec_4:6, Luk_4:32, Rom_1:16, 2Co_6:7, +*2Ti_1:7, 2Pe_1:16.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.



I am. Psa_31:17; *Psa_40:9; *Psa_40:10; Psa_71:15-16; *Psa_119:46, Jer_9:3, +*Mar_8:38, *Luk_9:26, Act_17:18; Act_23:11; Act_27:35, 1Co_1:18; 1Co_2:2, *2Ti_1:8; *2Ti_1:12; *2Ti_1:16, 1Pe_4:16.
not. FS175B, +Gen_21:16.
ashamed. Rom_6:21, Isa_50:7, +Mar_8:38, Luk_9:26, 2Co_4:2, Php_1:20, 2Ti_1:8; 2Ti_1:12; 2Ti_1:16-17, Heb_2:11; Heb_11:16.
the gospel. Rom_1:1; Rom_1:9, Rom_10:8; Rom_15:19; Rom_15:29, Luk_2:10-11, Act_5:42, 1Co_9:12; 1Co_9:18, 2Co_2:12; **2Co_4:4 g. 2Co_9:13; 2Co_10:14, Gal_1:7; Gal_6:14, *Eph_1:13, Php_1:27, 1Ti_1:11.
for it is. FS4, +Rom_1:13.
the power of God. **Rom_10:17, 2Ch_6:41, *Psa_110:2, Isa_53:1, **Jer_23:29, Mat_10:28 g (is able). *1Co_1:18-24; *1Co_2:4; 1Co_4:20; 1Co_14:24-25; *1Co_15:2, *2Co_2:14-16; +*2Co_10:4; +*2Co_10:5, Eph_1:19, *Col_1:5; *Col_1:6, *1Th_1:5; *1Th_1:6; **1Th_2:13, *Heb_1:3; **Heb_4:12, 1Pe_1:5.
unto salvation. Rom_7:24-25; Rom_13:11, Isa_12:2; Isa_49:8; Isa_51:5, Mat_1:21, Luk_1:69; Luk_1:71; Luk_1:77, Joh_4:22, Act_11:14; Act_13:26; Act_16:17, +*2Co_6:2; 2Co_7:10, Gal_1:4, Eph_1:13, Php_1:28, 1Th_5:8-9, 2Th_2:13, Heb_1:14; *Heb_2:14; *Heb_2:15; *Heb_5:9; +*Heb_9:28 note. +*Jas_1:21, 1Pe_1:5.
to every one. Rom_3:29, See on Rom_4:11, Luk_2:30-32; +*Luk_24:47, Act_3:26; Act_16:32, +*1Ti_2:4, 1Pe_2:6, +*2Pe_3:9, **1Jn_5:10-13.
believeth. or, believing. Gr. pisteuonti. Believing translates pisteuonti, a present tense active voice participle, thus the Gospel is power from God for salvation to all the ones continuing to believe (Malcolm Lavender, Lavender Translation, fn. i). FS121F, +Gen_49:6, The belief is the effect of the power of God through the preaching of the gospel. Rom_4:5, Joh_3:16, +*Act_16:31; Act_20:21.
to the Jew. See on Rom_2:9, Luk_24:47.
first. In point of national precedence and privilege (CB). Rom_2:9-10; Rom_3:1-2; Rom_9:1-5; Rom_11:16, Joe_2:28 note. +*Dan_9:25 note. Zec_13:1, Mat_8:12, +*Act_1:8; *+Act_3:26; Act_13:26; Act_13:46; Act_19:10, Gal_3:28.
and also. *Rom_3:28-30.
the Greek. Representing all non-Jews (CB). +Rom_1:14, Rom_15:9, Mar_7:26, +Joh_7:35; Joh_12:20, Act_10:11; Act_14:1; Act_14:3; Act_19:10, 1Co_10:32, Gal_3:28.


Some food for thought and to chew the cud fellow Pilgrim. One thing I have learned is that I am never too old to learn.
Johann.
 

Magenta

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oh I don’t know anything about any of that I’m just here to discuss the Bible with
other likeminded folks seeking the a better understanding of the truth like I am
Johann has falsely accused me of a number of things, while he plagiarizes other people's material,
and then demanded I apologize to him after I let him know that plagiarism is against the rules.
Apparently he doesn't care for the site rules, or basic decency.
 

Inquisitor

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Love our brother Paul-

1Co 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
1Co 2:3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
1Co 2:4
And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
1Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.


my speech. Exo_4:10, *Act_20:27.
preaching. 1Co_1:21; 1Co_15:1; 1Co_15:11, 2Co_10:10, Gal_2:2, Col_4:4, +2Ti_4:17, 1Pe_1:25.
not with. 1Co_2:1; 1Co_2:13, 1Co_1:17, Jdg_14:15; Jdg_16:5, 2Sa_14:17-20; 2Sa_15:2-6, 1Ki_22:13-14, 2Ch_18:19-21, Pro_7:21; Pro_20:19, Jer_20:10, Eze_13:6; Eze_13:10-11, Rom_16:18, Col_2:4, 1Th_2:4, 2Ti_4:3, 2Pe_1:16; 2Pe_2:18.
enticing. or, persuasible. Gr. peithos (S# G3981). Act_26:28, Gal_1:10.
words of. 1Co_2:1; 1Co_2:13, 1Co_1:17, Joh_4:41, Act_24:1, 2Co_1:12.
but. 1Co_4:20, Jdg_7:2, Mar_16:20, Joh_16:8-15, Act_6:10, Rom_15:13; Rom_15:19, *2Co_3:3, *1Th_1:5, 1Pe_1:12.
demonstration. Gr. apodeixis (S# G585). 1Co_4:9, 1Th_1:5.
Spirit. Gr. pneuma, FS121A1, +Luk_1:17 note. 2Co_6:6.
and. FS93A, +Gen_1:26, By Hendiadys, the power of the Spirit. Two words used, but one thing meant.
power. 1Co_4:20, Mic_3:8, Zec_4:6, Luk_4:32, Rom_1:16, 2Co_6:7, +*2Ti_1:7, 2Pe_1:16.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.



I am. Psa_31:17; *Psa_40:9; *Psa_40:10; Psa_71:15-16; *Psa_119:46, Jer_9:3, +*Mar_8:38, *Luk_9:26, Act_17:18; Act_23:11; Act_27:35, 1Co_1:18; 1Co_2:2, *2Ti_1:8; *2Ti_1:12; *2Ti_1:16, 1Pe_4:16.
not. FS175B, +Gen_21:16.
ashamed. Rom_6:21, Isa_50:7, +Mar_8:38, Luk_9:26, 2Co_4:2, Php_1:20, 2Ti_1:8; 2Ti_1:12; 2Ti_1:16-17, Heb_2:11; Heb_11:16.
the gospel. Rom_1:1; Rom_1:9, Rom_10:8; Rom_15:19; Rom_15:29, Luk_2:10-11, Act_5:42, 1Co_9:12; 1Co_9:18, 2Co_2:12; **2Co_4:4 g. 2Co_9:13; 2Co_10:14, Gal_1:7; Gal_6:14, *Eph_1:13, Php_1:27, 1Ti_1:11.
for it is. FS4, +Rom_1:13.
the power of God. **Rom_10:17, 2Ch_6:41, *Psa_110:2, Isa_53:1, **Jer_23:29, Mat_10:28 g (is able). *1Co_1:18-24; *1Co_2:4; 1Co_4:20; 1Co_14:24-25; *1Co_15:2, *2Co_2:14-16; +*2Co_10:4; +*2Co_10:5, Eph_1:19, *Col_1:5; *Col_1:6, *1Th_1:5; *1Th_1:6; **1Th_2:13, *Heb_1:3; **Heb_4:12, 1Pe_1:5.
unto salvation. Rom_7:24-25; Rom_13:11, Isa_12:2; Isa_49:8; Isa_51:5, Mat_1:21, Luk_1:69; Luk_1:71; Luk_1:77, Joh_4:22, Act_11:14; Act_13:26; Act_16:17, +*2Co_6:2; 2Co_7:10, Gal_1:4, Eph_1:13, Php_1:28, 1Th_5:8-9, 2Th_2:13, Heb_1:14; *Heb_2:14; *Heb_2:15; *Heb_5:9; +*Heb_9:28 note. +*Jas_1:21, 1Pe_1:5.
to every one. Rom_3:29, See on Rom_4:11, Luk_2:30-32; +*Luk_24:47, Act_3:26; Act_16:32, +*1Ti_2:4, 1Pe_2:6, +*2Pe_3:9, **1Jn_5:10-13.
believeth. or, believing. Gr. pisteuonti. Believing translates pisteuonti, a present tense active voice participle, thus the Gospel is power from God for salvation to all the ones continuing to believe (Malcolm Lavender, Lavender Translation, fn. i). FS121F, +Gen_49:6, The belief is the effect of the power of God through the preaching of the gospel. Rom_4:5, Joh_3:16, +*Act_16:31; Act_20:21.
to the Jew. See on Rom_2:9, Luk_24:47.
first. In point of national precedence and privilege (CB). Rom_2:9-10; Rom_3:1-2; Rom_9:1-5; Rom_11:16, Joe_2:28 note. +*Dan_9:25 note. Zec_13:1, Mat_8:12, +*Act_1:8; *+Act_3:26; Act_13:26; Act_13:46; Act_19:10, Gal_3:28.
and also. *Rom_3:28-30.
the Greek. Representing all non-Jews (CB). +Rom_1:14, Rom_15:9, Mar_7:26, +Joh_7:35; Joh_12:20, Act_10:11; Act_14:1; Act_14:3; Act_19:10, 1Co_10:32, Gal_3:28.


Some food for thought and to chew the cud fellow Pilgrim. One thing I have learned is that I am never too old to learn.
Johann.
Does anything else really matter?

1Co 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Ultimately, that is the only way we can be saved!
 

Johann

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Salvation is by grace from start to finish. Salvation is presented in the form of a gift.

We cannot contribute to our salvation as Ephesians 2:8 says we cannot contribute to the gift of salvation.

The significance of Ephesians 2:8 is that it is a formal declaration by Paul. Of God's reconciliation of mankind to Himself
through His Son, Jesus Christ.

Our entire Christian life is lived is based on that trust in Jesus Christ.

So why does one person believe and ten other people not believe?

The answer is simple.

God is love and that is the penultimate truth concerning His nature.

God loves everyone unconditionally, fact.

It is not that God cannot save everyone, it is that God allows some level of self determination.

God desires that all men are saved but if they choose to resist they can do so.
Nothing wrong here-except, maybe-some level of self determinism? I am not arguing-just thinking out loud and tired at the moment.
It was a kinda rough day for me-for we wrestle not against flesh and blood-but?
Shalom
J.
 

Johann

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Does anything else really matter?

1Co 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Ultimately, that is the only way we can be saved!
Book of Romans is one of my "favorites" and worth studying-or are you making a remark on the MANY scripture references?
But I do concur Christ Jesus our Savior is the ONLY door through which a man must enter-not the side door nor any heteron door-but THE Door/derech-Definite Article.
should I make any mistakes that would be because I'm kinda tired.

Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Shalom
J.
 

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Revelation 3:20 CONTEXT:

(Rev 3:18) I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
(Rev 3:19) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
(Rev 3:20) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
(Rev 3:21) To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
(Rev 3:22) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

While Jesus standing at the door and knocking.. and hearing His voice and opening the door... Jesus coming in to them.. supping with them.. sounds like eternal salvation..

It's actually about a church family overcoming troubles. That is the context.. of churches overcoming characteristic problems. For examples to other churches of things to overcome to be a faithful church.
 
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No problem. Just make sure your teachings are in line with the God breathed Scriptures
Yours are NOT seeing you are a purveyor of some of john calvinin's fake gospel.

I hope you allow the Lord to reveal to you the error of your ways so you can repent and get right with the Lord before it's too late.
 

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Just forget about that.

So basically Johan for 15 years I have had dreams where by in my dream the exact events play out for real in life.

Its never more than one year before a dream I have comes true in real life.

And when it comes true it is in every detail it was in the dream.

I'll give you one example of hundreds

In my dream I walked down into a valley a cross a narrow steel bar 6 inches wide 6 foot above a river, I picked up some stones on the other side, filled my bag, walked back across the same steel pole, lost my balance, cut my hands on the bar trying to hold on,

The weight of the rocks pulled me down.

I dropped into the water.

I got out onto the river bank only to realise my car keys where still in the water,

My hands pouring with blood went back into the water and i found my car keys and went home.

1 year later this happened as it happened in my dream.

I knew I had been there in my dream and I saw my self falling of, but I ignored it. And just carried on
Be careful you don't dream of "dying" or of committing a premeditated act of -----fill in the blanks--

No-this is not the way the Holy Spirit is leading me.
J.
 

Johann

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Yours are NOT seeing you are a purveyor of some of john calvinin's fake gospel.

I hope you allow the Lord to reveal to you the error of your ways so you can repent and get right with the Lord before it's too late.
I am right with the Lord Christ Jesus by His grace, sealed with the Holy Spirit and unless the Lord shows me otherwise-you are going to hear a whole lot more of Spurgeon's "fake" gospel-no offense.
Shalom
J.
 

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Book of Romans is one of my "favorites" and worth studying-or are you making a remark on the MANY scripture references?
But I do concur Christ Jesus our Savior is the ONLY door through which a man must enter-not the side door nor any heteron door-but THE Door/derech-Definite Article.
should I make any mistakes that would be because I'm kinda tired.

Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Shalom
J.
If Jesus is not the start and finish of any post, then Paul would be concerned.

Our boast is in the name of Jesus Christ.

The alpha and the omega of our entire life.

Ephesians 2:17-19
So that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled to all the fullness of God.

Our goal as Christians is to overflow with the love of Jesus Christ.

That's it.
 
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