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Gr8grace

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For a long period of time the Catholic Church taught only those in the Catholic Church could enter into Heaven. They have changed this to include all the pagan religions to enter into the Catholic Church.

Also if you had to be in the Catholic Church to enter into Heaven, why then would they change it if this is what God taught?

Do you see how the Catholic Church is a false Church?

Be very careful of what the Catholics teach you for they see nothing wrong with lying. They will lie to keep you in bondage to the Catholic Church.

This is one of the reasons why i left the Catholic Church and refused to put my Soul in danger of hellfire by staying in the Catholic Church.

God led me to His True Church the Christian Church.

The Catholic Church has walked away from most of the Truths from God. Only those who have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior is a Christian. The Catholic Church now says even Muslims who reject Jesus as God can enter into the Catholic Church as brothers in Christ. What a sham this is, inviting Satan into the Catholic Church!
We can't leave the Holy Spirit out of this. It doesn't matter where a person is, the Holy Spirit is going to get the gospel to that soul. God is not going to leave ONE soul "wondering" about the truth.

From my experience, most born again believers leave the catholic church. But they are not going to be "unborn" if they decide to stay there.
 
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I see it this way, if you ask a question cconcerning the bible I will point you to Christ, in his day there were no denominations. Only pure truth. If then you want to believe the doctrine of your church and lay hands on the interpretation so be it. Let that doctrine save you. If you find fault in your doctrine then be wise and study it is not a sin to doubt just ask Thomas. But to put it bluntly it's your very lives you are putting on the line a no joke, no turning back once you cross the Vail of death who are you going to believe? The author and finisher of your faith or a man that can't even save himself?
 

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Transubstantiation.

This doctrine teaches that in the miracle of the mass the bread and wine are supernaturally transformed into the body and blood of Christ. This transformation, however, is unique. It is not complete because the changed bread and wine still look like bread and wine. To the senses no change is apparent. Yet the Catholic Church asserts that the bread and wine have become the veritable body and blood of Christ.

The body and blood of Jesus belong properly to his human nature, not his divine nature.

For Christ's physical body and blood to be present at more than one place at the same time, his physical body would need to be Omnipresent! The Lord's Supper is celebrated at the same time in many parts of the World.

Now the question is:
How can the physical body and blood of Jesus be in Paris, London, Canada, and the USA simultaneously?
Do you know that GOD is going to use the same yard stick that you use against the Catholics, therefore if you make one mistake in interpretation, what do you think your poetic JUSTICE should be? ? ?

They would answer you with this verse:

Luke 1:37 (GW)
[SUP]37 [/SUP] But nothing is impossible for God.”
 

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We can't leave the Holy Spirit out of this. It doesn't matter where a person is, the Holy Spirit is going to get the gospel to that soul. God is not going to leave ONE soul "wondering" about the truth.

From my experience, most born again believers leave the catholic church. But they are not going to be "unborn" if they decide to stay there.

I know some that are born and feel called to STAY there, to let their LIGHT SHINE, and show other Catholics what genuine Faith really is.
 
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Gr8grace

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I know some that are born and feel called to STAY there, to let their LIGHT SHINE, and show other Catholics what genuine Faith really is.
There ya go brother. The Holy Spirit working. And I can assure you that the brothers here that are "preaching" against catholics are not called to reach them. They are just pushing people farther away. I wish they could see it.
 
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Thankyou for these words..Awesome testimony here...this is the kind of 'stuff' the world needs to hear.....a CHRISTIAN chat should never be an opinion poll....it should be full of glory and praise to CHRIST so that the internet world can see something different in us CHRISTIANS than just a bunch of silly willy opinionaters posting their various issues, as if the world needs know. GOD bless you, VCO for sharing, and not hiding all of that beautiful light you have under a bushel.
 

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Thankyou for these words..Awesome testimony here...this is the kind of 'stuff' the world needs to hear.....a CHRISTIAN chat should never be an opinion poll....it should be full of glory and praise to CHRIST so that the internet world can see something different in us CHRISTIANS than just a bunch of silly willy opinionaters posting their various issues, as if the world needs know. GOD bless you, VCO for sharing, and not hiding all of that beautiful light you have under a bushel.

Do you ever stop yappin?
 
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Tintin

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Thankyou for these words..Awesome testimony here...this is the kind of 'stuff' the world needs to hear.....a CHRISTIAN chat should never be an opinion poll....it should be full of glory and praise to CHRIST so that the internet world can see something different in us CHRISTIANS than just a bunch of silly willy opinionaters posting their various issues, as if the world needs know. GOD bless you, VCO for sharing, and not hiding all of that beautiful light you have under a bushel.
No opinion polls? Good gravy. Condemnation with a side dish of encouragement. Hmm...
 

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There ya go brother. The Holy Spirit working. And I can assure you that the brothers here that are "preaching" against catholics are not called to reach them. They are just pushing people farther away. I wish they could see it.

Amen! I agree, Born Again believers only feel the Calling of the LORD to specific ministries. Like when I first heard that they were building a Prison near Crescent City, CA, and even though I had said several times, "There ain't no way I am moving west of those Sierra Nevada Mountains!"; GOD gave me a Calling to move to the Coast and start a Prison Ministry. Now you have to understand, I HAD NO IDEA HOW START A PRISON MINISTRY, but I knew it was GOD's will and HE CERTAINLY KNEW HOW TO GET IT DONE. Long Story made short, I put my Total TRUST in HIM, put in for a Transfer to Crescent City in my Post Office Job, and got it. We arrived just as they were breaking ground to build Pelican Bay State Prison. It was a year before they opened and started housing inmates there, but I needed that much time to get seniority enough to have regular days off that I could commit to for doing the Ministry. PBSP was designed to be the End of the Line in the California Department of Corrections, so it housed the worst of the worst. IT AWED ME, how HE gave me the ability to do what I knew NOTHING ABOUT, and He filled me with JOY as I did HIS will. I ministered there as a Volunteer Chaplain for 9.5 years, and by the time I left, we had a Prison Ministry going with 8 Volunteers, most of whom I had personally trained.

Do those who are not born again, sometimes think they have a calling. Sure they do, but you can tell it is not GOD empowering them to do the ministry, it is they themselves who are trying to do it out of their own abilities. One time while traveling, we had my Motherinlaw with us on a Sunday; so we stopped at a little Baptist Church to Worship. The pastor spoke in a monotone, and it was the most boring sermon I had heard since my youth. As we walked to the car, my Motherinlaw said: "Some men think they were called to PREACH, when GOD had really called them to PLOW." ROTFL
 

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For a long period of time the Catholic Church taught only those in the Catholic Church could enter into Heaven. They have changed this to include all the pagan religions to enter into the Catholic Church.

Also if you had to be in the Catholic Church to enter into Heaven, why then would they change it if this is what God taught?

Do you see how the Catholic Church is a false Church?

Be very careful of what the Catholics teach you for they see nothing wrong with lying. They will lie to keep you in bondage to the Catholic Church.

This is one of the reasons why i left the Catholic Church and refused to put my Soul in danger of hellfire by staying in the Catholic Church.

God led me to His True Church the Christian Church.

The Catholic Church has walked away from most of the Truths from God. Only those who have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior is a Christian. The Catholic Church now says even Muslims who reject Jesus as God can enter into the Catholic Church as brothers in Christ. What a sham this is, inviting Satan into the Catholic Church!
NO I do not see it. There is no such thing as a PERFECT CHURCH, because human beings are not PERFECT. If you stay in a Church long enough, you will find that every one of them has both genuine Christians and phony Christians sitting in their pews. Christ told us that in the Parable of the Tares and Wheat.


Yes God may have wanted you in a different Church, because your negative experience, would be a stumbling block to your learning and spiritual growth. Now please think about it, and pray about it; does GOD now want you to forgive the Priest who sinned against you?

Colossians 3:13 (ESV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.
 
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Its interesting the Catholics believe the Catholic Church is the perfect Church that cannot make any mistakes.

So are you VCO admitting the Catholic Church is not perfect?

How can the Catholic Church call itself a true Church when the Pope believes all those who reject Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior are Christians?

Pope Francis has told the Muslims they are our brothers in Christ. Its interesting the Muslims reject Jesus as God but yet Pope Francis calls them brothers in Christ.

Does this not prove the Catholic Church today is a false Church that is walking away from God and His Truths?
 
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All i see is hate from you for the Word of God. All i see from you is hate for the Truth in the Scriptures.

Yes i know you tried to answer it with gobblie gook. All made up stories to deceive the very elect chosen Children of God.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too mwc68. Either God is all powerful and did have the Power to keep Jesus without sin while in the womb of Mary who was a sinner, or God is so powerless that He needed the help of a mortal sinner like Mary.

Make up your mind mwc68. Who are you going to follow? Only God and God only? Or God and Mary?
I follow God! Sure I do. I also follow his Apostles and disciples whom Mary is among. Interesting how you keep saying I hate scripture, yet I read it every day, hear scripture at every Mass and heck, i even get scripture here at CC. I am beginning to think you, Mec, and Ken are a troll gang bent on spreading misinformation and pretending to be Christians.
 

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Does this not prove the Catholic Church today is a false Church that is walking away from God and His Truths?
What is the 'true' church in your opinion? Is that the one that you attend on a regular basis?
 

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Its interesting the Catholics believe the Catholic Church is the perfect Church that cannot make any mistakes.

So are you VCO admitting the Catholic Church is not perfect?

How can the Catholic Church call itself a true Church when the Pope believes all those who reject Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior are Christians?

Pope Francis has told the Muslims they are our brothers in Christ. Its interesting the Muslims reject Jesus as God but yet Pope Francis calls them brothers in Christ.

Does this not prove the Catholic Church today is a false Church that is walking away from God and His Truths?
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TIME FOR A DOSE OF REALITY:

LIKE I SAID, there is NO SUCH THING as a PERFECT CHURCH.

AND THAT MEANS, there is no such thing as a PERFECT PROTESTANT CHURCH either.

Any CHURCH or Christian who thinks he or she is PERFECT is in ERROR.

We are all CO-EQUALLY SINNERS with a Sin Nature inherited from ADAM.

There are only TWO types of people in this world, SINNERS and SAVED SINNERS.

James 2:10 (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Romans 14:23 (NKJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith;
for whatever is not from faith is sin.

Luke 18:19 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] So Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.


THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE PERFECT DENOMINATION, because imperfect men are running it.

CHRIST recognized SEVEN types of CHURCHES that are HIS, who are we to recognize LESS?


Revelation 1:20 (ESV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] As for the mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden lampstands, the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

Romans 12:3 (ESV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned.


Is that plain enough for everyone to understand?
 
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The True Church is the Church that is built on the Foundation of the Disciples with Jesus Christ as the Corner stone. The True Church is in Heaven.

The Catholic Church has Mary as their Cornerstone.

There are no True Churches on the Earth.

Luke 1:37
[SUP]37 [/SUP] For with God nothing will be impossible.

I agree 100% that NOTHING will be IMPOSSIBLE for God to do!

Then why do you Catholics teach Mary had to be without sin to keep Jesus free from sin if NOTHING is IMPOSSIBLE with God????

If nothing is impossible with God then God did not need Mary to be without sin!
 
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The True Church is the Church that is built on the Foundation of the Disciples with Jesus Christ as the Corner stone. The True Church is in Heaven.

The Catholic Church has Mary as their Cornerstone.

There are no True Churches on the Earth.

Luke 1:37
[SUP]37 [/SUP] For with God nothing will be impossible.

I agree 100% that NOTHING will be IMPOSSIBLE for God to do!

Then why do you Catholics teach Mary had to be without sin to keep Jesus free from sin if NOTHING is IMPOSSIBLE with God????

If nothing is impossible with God then God did not need Mary to be without sin!
Broken record just keeps skipping
 
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bondservant

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What is the true church and why is it in heaven?
 
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See how mwc68 hates the Truth. Everything he hate he makes fun of. When will you allow the Holy Spirit to indwell you mwc68? Ken may be a broken record but God does say Mary was a sinner.

Why do you hate God so much mwc68 that you reject His Truths for the false teachings of the Catholic Church?

Do you not know if you keep on rejecting God He eventually will turn His back on you and allow you to wallow in your sins?

God does not force us to accept Him, nor does He force anyone to follow Him.

If you really want to walk away from God mwc68 He will allow you to do it.
 
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What is the true church and why is it in heaven?

The true Church is the body of believers in Christ, not a building or denomination.

It also is not in heaven yet for if that was the case then none of us walking on earth are saved through Christ unto salvation.