Do You Really Want A " Godly" Woman?

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kaylagrl

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I mentioned this in another thread,but it sort of made me wonder.I hear Christian men bemoan the fact that they cant find a Godly woman.My opinion is that the values they are looking for are actually worldly ones and that is why that cant find what they are seeking.
For instance my younger sister told me that she and her husband made a promise to each other to "never get fat" I wasnt married at the time and I thought how shallow that was.But I know many Christian men that want a woman to be a certain size.One Christian man told me he would not marry a woman who would not perform a certain sexual act for him.And Im thinking "what has that to do with her character? If she would be a good mother and faithful wife?"So many think they want a Godly wife but in the same breath turn around and compare women to Hollywood types in looks and the way they act.They want a woman that looks Hollywood but acts like Mother Mary.Not all men but more often then not it is true of Christian men.Especially the younger generation.So any thoughts? Agree or disagree?
 
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Ariel82

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makes me wonder how God defines a godly woman.

People so often quote Proverbs 31: 10-31


[SUP]30 [/SUP]Charm is deceitful and beauty is passing,
But a woman who fears the Lord, she shall be praised.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Give her of the fruit of her hands,
And let her own works praise her in the gates.
 
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psychomom

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i do agree societal standards have infected the Church...

and since i'm 55, and my beloved is 10 years older than i,

i'll tell you, we all get old! physical beauty don't last forever...

but there are better things. :)
 
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Ugly

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Here's another thread of broad generalizations.
Oh, and i hear women make the same complaint on here all the time. So if we're going to be throwing around these ideas at everyone then women must have the same problem and it's not a guy thing only.
 

notuptome

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I would consider much of what Proverbs 31 has to say on this matter. God knows about the physical attraction of the flesh and we have a good deal of it in Song of Solomon.

Tis a true observation that age diminishes external beauty but replaces it with a superior beauty. I am no less attracted to my wife today than I was forty years ago. Only the Lord can do that in a human heart.

For the cause of Christ
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p_rehbein

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Not all men but more often then not it is true of Christian men.Especially the younger generation.So any thoughts? Agree or disagree?

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Have to disagree with this statement........broad generalization with no credible evidence to support it.

Sorry..........but these kind of statements serve no positive purpose in my opinion
 
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kaylagrl

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Here's another thread of broad generalizations.
Oh, and i hear women make the same complaint on here all the time. So if we're going to be throwing around these ideas at everyone then women must have the same problem and it's not a guy thing only.

​ I didnt say it was a guy thing only,nor did I say every man was like it.I'm saying our culture is breeding this attitude. Since this isnt you it shouldnt bother you.But this is in response to something someone said on another post which I should have stated in my OP. Someone said they think women are more socially impressionable and lean more to what culture accepts.So my answer is women have had to change because what many men want in a woman is not based on the Bible anymore.So its not generalizing.But if you dont like the post you dont have to comment on it.Just sayin...
 
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johnbragg

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God knows the desires of my heart and if I abide in Him and they are His will they will be granted. [h=1]Psalm 37:4[/h]4 Take delight in the Lord,
and he will give you the desires of your heart.

I pray that my future wife Falls under Peters teachings.
1 Peter 3:3-5 3 Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. 4 Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight.

however physical attraction is a plus if one is to enjoy there spouse.

Ecclesiastes 9:9 9 Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun—all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun.




 
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kaylagrl

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Ok men lets start over before I start WW1 here.My OP should be better explained.In the family forum there's a thread called Christian Woman Who Dont Respect their Husbands. {so hop on over their men and tell them they are generalizing and all Christian woman arent like that} One poster gave their opinion,which is fine,that woman are more socially impressionable and take their lead from the culture more then men do.Not the exact words but basically I think thats what he meant,though he may elaborate here.So my thought was men have changed and therefore women have changed to meet beauty and social standards that men want.For example when I was young it was considered wrong or frowned upon for a Christian woman to work outside the home.Her place was with the kids at home.Now it has changed so much that its frowned on if you're a stay at home mom.Culture has changed and the church with it.Not ALL men,not ALL women.Please read before you react!
 
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kaylagrl

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Not all men but more often then not it is true of Christian men.Especially the younger generation.So any thoughts? Agree or disagree?

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Have to disagree with this statement........broad generalization with no credible evidence to support it.

Sorry..........but these kind of statements serve no positive purpose in my opinion

I said not all,therefore it isnt a broad generalization.If I said all men then it would be.And as I said especially the younger generation.Not sure how you'd find evidence to support this.But theres a lot of divorce among Christians,now higher I believe than non Christians.I believe our expectations on both sides have changed and our values.But I was making a comment on another thread and possibly didnt clarify my thoughts enough.
 
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keepitsimple

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i do agree societal standards have infected the Church...

and since i'm 55, and my beloved is 10 years older than i,

i'll tell you, we all get old! physical beauty don't last forever...

but there are better things. :)

Speak for yourself. My wrinkles have only added to my character ............. I hope, I hope, I hope :(
 
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kaylagrl

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Speak for yourself. My wrinkles have only added to my character ............. I hope, I hope, I hope :(

Thats sort of my point.And both are guilty of it.You can tuck,suck and trim these days.Even young woman are getting enhancements.You see woman in their 60s trying to look 30.I think part of it is that women believe this is what men want.As I said,some do.I'm just saying what is our focus.We say we want Godly relationships but then we focus on worldly things.Why would wrinkles matter if you love a person? Its a standard society is setting and Christians are falling for.
 

Blain

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Well I suppose the issue is what defines a godly woman to most men. Most men who are looking for a spouse that is godly and fits their needs are to focused on what the perfect women for them would be and also some of them actively seek out such a person. Do you know why I don't bother trying to look for the perfect spouse or even a spouse at all? it isn't like I am afraid because I can talk to women far easier than men but instead of me being in control and having it in my hands by seeking out this person whether that is on a dating site or in real life I simply hand it all over to God and wait for him to bring her to me.

My idea of a decent Godly women(not perfect) is a caring women who truly loves God and accepts me even with all my many flaws. Maybe I am way to much into love at first site but I just feel inside that when I see this women that I was meant to be with by God's standards not mine there will be an instant connection or love at first site. I don't want to care what she looks like and I want to love and adore her even with her flaws. Odds are she won't see the beauty I see in her because women for some reason always think they are never good enough or pretty enough which by the way ladies is bogus;b.

If anyone is looking for that perfectspouse and I emphasis the word perfect then they need to understand there is no such thing because every person has flaws and every person either does or is something you don't agree with. The point is that you love them unconditionally just for who they are. The way I see leave it in God's hands and just continue to seek him and grow in all things good, he knows you want a spouse and when the time is right he will bring this person to you and it will be a much better person than you would have found on your own
 
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kaylagrl

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Well I suppose the issue is what defines a godly woman to most men. Most men who are looking for a spouse that is godly and fits their needs are to focused on what the perfect women for them would be and also some of them actively seek out such a person. Do you know why I don't bother trying to look for the perfect spouse or even a spouse at all? it isn't like I am afraid because I can talk to women far easier than men but instead of me being in control and having it in my hands by seeking out this person whether that is on a dating site or in real life I simply hand it all over to God and wait for him to bring her to me.

My idea of a decent Godly women(not perfect) is a caring women who truly loves God and accepts me even with all my many flaws. Maybe I am way to much into love at first site but I just feel inside that when I see this women that I was meant to be with by God's standards not mine there will be an instant connection or love at first site. I don't want to care what she looks like and I want to love and adore her even with her flaws. Odds are she won't see the beauty I see in her because women for some reason always think they are never good enough or pretty enough which by the way ladies is bogus;b.

If anyone is looking for that perfectspouse and I emphasis the word perfect then they need to understand there is no such thing because every person has flaws and every person either does or is something you don't agree with. The point is that you love them unconditionally just for who they are. The way I see leave it in God's hands and just continue to seek him and grow in all things good, he knows you want a spouse and when the time is right he will bring this person to you and it will be a much better person than you would have found on your own

Looking at your age Im very encouraged by your post.You have a great attitude and Im sure you will meet a woman with the same attitude.It is truly heartening to see men that are not looking for the worlds standards but Gods.And vise versa.It is not common these days because as I said the worlds ideals have crept into the church.
 

Blain

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Looking at your age Im very encouraged by your post.You have a great attitude and Im sure you will meet a woman with the same attitude.It is truly heartening to see men that are not looking for the worlds standards but Gods.And vise versa.It is not common these days because as I said the worlds ideals have crept into the church.
well you also have to consider that men are naturally attracted to women that are pretty or thin and even as a Christian we live in the flesh and flesh often times craves flesh. My view is likely from my the fact that I have lived with a family of girls most of my life and I also was never burden with sexual desires so my mind works differently towards stuff like this.
 
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kaylagrl

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well you also have to consider that men are naturally attracted to women that are pretty or thin and even as a Christian we live in the flesh and flesh often times craves flesh. My view is likely from my the fact that I have lived with a family of girls most of my life and I also was never burden with sexual desires so my mind works differently towards stuff like this.
Yes attraction is what draws us to another. But our standards should not be unrealistic and shallow like Hollywood.Some of the most vapid people around.We watch too much tv and read too many mags and set unrealistic standards of relationships.They are hard enough without the Hollywood nonsense.You have a great attitude. Dont let anyone change that.
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Blain

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Yes attraction is what draws us to another. But our standards should not be unrealistic and shallow like Hollywood.Some of the most vapid people around.We watch too much tv and read too many mags and set unrealistic standards of relationships.They are hard enough without the Hollywood nonsense.You have a great attitude. Dont let anyone change that.
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I agree hollywood and all those mag and t.v. do tend to make ppl set standards like that. a majority of ppl who get married in the u.s. get divorced or have a broken relationship because they have standards the other spouse doesn't meet or they get married because they are in love but not really in love. It's sort of like their mind thinking if they get married it will make their relationship much better but honestly it's sort of like a fake kind of romance because once you get married move in and make a life together you will get to know each other a little more than you anticipated.

Which is why you never ever rush marriage. Also lots of ppl never seem to find true happiness until they find the one and get married. I have met lots of men and women who rate their lives on the fact they are 35 or older and not married, they think true happiness only comes with marriage and being in love. even lots of Christians come to cc looking for that exact thing. and plus I have seen how society looks at ppl who are 30-40 and never been married, they usually are likened to lonely, un attractive women and men and it's just so wrong. ppl have always looked down on me growing up because I have never even been on a date but I told them I don't want a girlfriend just to have one if I ever get one I want it to be because we truly are in love, the girls usually were touched by this but the guys just snickered and laughed.
 

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May I jump in and ask the question, are there some girls that are looking for a "christian hot guy???" I know there are probably some guys looking for a "christian hot girl."

One thing I have noticed is that a lot of girls tend to be seen more with men who are the "tall teddy bear" type more than I have seen vice versa. And that's not even talking about finding a christian person.
 

Reborn

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kaylagrl;1782334]Yes attraction is what draws us to another. But our standards should not be unrealistic and shallow like Hollywood.Some of the most vapid people around.We watch too much tv and read too many mags and set unrealistic standards of relationships.They are hard enough without the Hollywood nonsense.You have a great attitude. Dont let anyone change that.
I think the answer will be "Yes-I want a woman that follows Christ", for any man claiming to follow Christ. :D Like the question can we be "un-born" at some point, or why would a Christian do this bad thing or that continually? Comes down to asking the obvious: If someone acts or looks for the superficial things and/or only cares about the surface qualities of another, or puts it in their "must haves"- (that the Lord said to steer clear from btw)-are they really even saved in the first place?

Of course this is between them and the Lord, but I think anyone truly seeking Him, seeks a partner that does the same.....no matter how they look.

If anyone (no matter which sex) is looking for nourishment from a beautifully decorated tree, may find just that- it's pretty on the outside but bears no fruit at all.
 

EmethAlethia

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Interesting thread. From a biblical standpoint, a godly woman is one who, as a habit and way of life, seeks to figure out, and do, all that God says on every issue. She is open to altering any, and all beliefs to fit with what the fullness of the word of God teaches on every single issue in life, and she habitually does what it takes to get everything that God may have said, may have done, and godly men and women said and did. She puts all the pieces together and does what god wants regardless of what men and women in their society believe. A godly man seeks out God, truth ... as a habit and way of life, and does the will of God, for himself, and by himself, regardless of the costs as well. No double standard here.

After that, since our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, she will care for her body. Meet it's needs, but she will also be in control over it, rule it, master it, because if she cannot master her will with regards to the bodies desires, and keep that in subjection, she will have other issues with that as well. He , or she who is faithful with a little will be faithful with much.

This brings us to 1 Cor 7. It is best if all men and women remain single, so as to assure undistracted devotion to God. HOWEVER, if you do not have control of your physical desires, and things are getting out of hand, AND YOU ARE IN DANGER OF COMMITTING FORNICATION, get married. That pretty much sums up the N.T. REASON(Singular) for seeking to get married. You might not have the "gift" of being single, you might have the gift of a lack of control in this area. One has a gift in this area, another in that ... if so, get married.

So here's the rub. Who should even date? The issue of defrauding comes to mind. If you do not have struggles in the area discussed throughout 1 Cor. 7 as the ONLY issue for which we should seek marriage, you are, according to Paul, best off not to go this way. Given that you are sexually bound to meeting every need or desire of the other party, and you can't even take time for prayer if BOTH OF YOU ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT, a lack of struggles in this area could make for BIG struggles in obedience to the command of God later on. If you get married, you will have troubles ... Oh, yes, and if you do not believe Paul has the Spirit of God on this matter, and that the Holy Spirit did not guide him to write all of the scriptures he wrote, then your New Testament just got a lot thinner. Exacto knife all of the stuff written by him out...

How do you find a man or woman who fits the bill of having these "desires", knowing they are at risk of these things, and lack control? My suggestion is to first be that person. If this is your area of giftedness, and you know it. Come to terms with it. You know God wants you to be equally yoked. That's not just having two oxen, in a team pulling together, that's two oxen of equal strength and abilities, pulling the same direction. That's what you are pursuing. But where to hunt for a suitable spouse when these desires are getting in the way?


My suggestion, in this day and age, is to do so in a bible study forum, or better yet, a bible study chat room. Not the "social forums" or chat rooms. Find someone you can see is a mature Christian according to God's standards in Hebrews (Assuming you are as well), and discuss bible issues together, go over the scriptures, make the foundation of your relationship seeking out Christ together. A bit of a warning here. Make sure they are single. A godly man or woman can be quite attractive to other godly men and women. This often leads to e-mails of bible studies, video chat with each other, meeting, dating ... and if you both understand that you have these struggles when you start, the natural progression usually occurs.

Just seek God together. Remember, if you have no issues with struggles, knowing the attraction that godly men and women tend to develop, it is best if you don't take this route as it often leads to meeting, and more.

Does this work? For the most part. there are those who are studying God / the scriptures for other reasons. That is what those in their group do, they were raised in a household where one or more of the parents was very godly and taught them well... but they do not cry out for the pure milk of the word as an infant cries out for milk ... they do it for other reasons.

Does it work? It did for me. I put God first. Took all of the physical areas that God gifted us with out of the way. Built a foundation on the word of God, let phileo love grow, and God handled the rest.