Do you think there will be night in Heaven and/or the New Earth?

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

You are correct, the Saints that live with the Father and Jesus in the Holy City of God, will be in their Glorified Bodies, immortal, and will have no need of sleep, ever.

not just in the New Jerusalem, but in the whole earth, they will have their new bodies and will not require sleep, hence no night.
Do you have a Scripture stating there will be night time on the New Earth?

The Earth abideth forever, as it is written. The Earth will continue to have 24 hour days and 24 hour nights. Is there any Scriptures that teach days and nights will end? Are there any Scriptures that teach the Sun will be destroyed? Any verse that teaches the moon will cease to be?

Scriptures plainly teaches that there will be NO NIGHT in the Holy City Jerusalem. Believe the Word of God, NOT what men teach. Are you not teaching above that there will be no night on the Earth as well? to which Ahwatukee and willfollowsGod both liked that post. Yet what does Scriptures plainly teach?

Ecc_1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

Gen_8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

God says they shall not cease, but you seem to think it will cease, why is that? i will tell you why, because you do not know Scriptures, and rely on interpretations from men to gain Truth from, if you did know Scriptures, then you would not have believed the false teaching that there is no night on Earth. And if Ahwatukee knew Scriptures he would have most certainly corrected you.

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DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

Yes, emphatically! We humans have a tendency to try and make everything in the Bible out to be a literal statement.... when many things were never meant to be taken that way. (The crazy idea of actually having to walk on hot, hard streets of gold metal is one example. Give me lush, green grass, and pure white beach sand between my bare toes, any day) I happen to love rain and storms. I am confident I will still enjoy those to my heart's content after I am raised to new life.

Inside the Holy City, there is no need for sleep. Therefore no need for night time. But if you desire night time, sand, rain, storms. You can freely go to and from the Holy City and go anywhere on the Earth that you so desire, which will have day and night.

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DiscipleDave

 

[MattG]

The Earth abideth forever, as it is written. The Earth will continue to have 24 hour days and 24 hour nights. Is there any Scriptures that teach days and nights will end? Are there any Scriptures that teach the Sun will be destroyed? Any verse that teaches the moon will cease to be?

Scriptures plainly teaches that there will be NO NIGHT in the Holy City Jerusalem. Believe the Word of God, NOT what men teach. Are you not teaching above that there will be no night on the Earth as well? to which Ahwatukee and willfollowsGod both liked that post. Yet what does Scriptures plainly teach?

Ecc_1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

Gen_8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

God says they shall not cease, but you seem to think it will cease, why is that? i will tell you why, because you do not know Scriptures, and rely on interpretations from men to gain Truth from, if you did know Scriptures, then you would not have believed the false teaching that there is no night on Earth. And if Ahwatukee knew Scriptures he would have most certainly corrected you.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

Yes I agree 100% with this discipledave.

 

[Rosemaryx]

Inside the Holy City, there is no need for sleep. Therefore no need for night time. But if you desire night time, sand, rain, storms. You can freely go to and from the Holy City and go anywhere on the Earth that you so desire, which will have day and night.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

Oh I have to do some study on this...I must admit I also thought i would never see the sand , the sunsets etc again...But before I go any further , my greatest desire is to see our LORD , now that He is first and foremost...

The only reason I do not understand these things is because I am just starting to chew the meat while still drinking my milk , so this will be something to look into...Thank you DD...xox...

 

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

Inside the Holy City, there is no need for sleep. Therefore no need for night time. But if you desire night time, sand, rain, storms. You can freely go to and from the Holy City and go anywhere on the Earth that you so desire, which will have day and night.

Oh I have to do some study on this.

What a rare joy, to come across a heart of a Berean. Eager to learn, a teachable spirit. God desires the likes of you.

..I must admit I also thought i would never see the sand , the sunsets etc again.

Psa 145:19 He will fulfil the desire of them that fear him: he also will hear their cry, and will save them.

Job 36:11 If they obey and serve him, they shall spend their days in prosperity, and their years in pleasures. (Duel prophesy, not only in this life, but in Heaven as well)

Psa 16:11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore. (pleasures of seeing sunsets, forevermore.)

Psa 84:11 For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.

1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. ( We can't even imagine how great it is going to be, what you can actually imagine, is pale in comparison)

Isa 64:4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him. (Again, Can't even imagine it)

So whatever you can imagine Heaven is like, it is way better than that. You want to be able to see beaches and sunsets? You will not only see those things on Earth, but you will be able to see those things on many other planets as well. Try to imagine what seeing other sunsets on Other worlds would be like, and you will not even come close to what they actually will be like, beauty beyond belief is what awaits the Saints of God.

..But before I go any further , my greatest desire is to see our LORD , now that He is first and foremost...

The only reason I do not understand these things is because I am just starting to chew the meat while still drinking my milk , so this will be something to look into...Thank you DD...xox...

No need to thank me, if i did not say it, someone else would have. God is after you, and He desires you Rosemaryx, this i know.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[3angelsmsg]

For the Saints who live in the New City Jerusalem that comes down out of Heaven to the Earth, there will be no day or night there. ( no need for such) It will always be lit with the light of the Father and Jesus Christ. But outside of the New City Jerusalem, there will be day and night on the Earth, which abideth forever. You can leave the Holy City and partake of the beautiful night, sunsets, stars, etc.. ...

^i^ responding to OP

From one new moon to another new moon and from one sabbath to another will all fresh come to worship before Lord God.

If there is not day or night. How will the saints know when is the Sabbath day.

Every new moon we will gather to eat fruit. So every month there will be different fruit to eat on the tree of life.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

From one new moon to another new moon and from one sabbath to another will all fresh come to worship before Lord God.

If there is not day or night. How will the saints know when is the Sabbath day.

Every new moon we will gather to eat fruit. So every month there will be different fruit to eat on the tree of life.

In Rev 21 or 22, it says there will be no sun or moon anymore and the gates will never be shut because it will never be nighttime. If I'm remembering correctly, it also says there will be no more ocean...

 

[3angelsmsg]

For the Saints who live in the New City Jerusalem that comes down out of Heaven to the Earth, there will be no day or night there. ( no need for such) It will always be lit with the light of the Father and Jesus Christ. But outside of the New City Jerusalem, there will be day and night on the Earth, which abideth forever. You can leave the Holy City and partake of the beautiful night, sunsets, stars, etc.. ...

^i^ responding to OP

In Rev 21 or 22, it says there will be no sun or moon anymore and the gates will never be shut because it will never be nighttime. If I'm remembering correctly, it also says there will be no more ocean...

I really do not understand how you overlook the scripture I shared with you.


Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

You should be able to compare scripture with scripture.

In the context of Rev 21 and 22, it is speaking in terms of the new Jerusalem, there it would not be need of the sun nor moon because the Jesus and God brightest light and glory.

 

[3angelsmsg]

I really do not understand how you overlook the scripture I shared with you.


Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

You should be able to compare scripture with scripture.

In the context of Rev 21 and 22, it is speaking in terms of the new Jerusalem, there it would not be need of the sun nor moon because the Jesus and God brightest light and glory.

Kindly note the following scriptures:

Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

I really do not understand how you overlook the scripture I shared with you.


Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

You should be able to compare scripture with scripture.

In the context of Rev 21 and 22, it is speaking in terms of the new Jerusalem, there it would not be need of the sun nor moon because the Jesus and God brightest light and glory.

Not overlooking it, I just am not sure how to reconcile the two.

I really don't like cold conversations. I need to feel warmth from someone to make me want to spend much time conversing with them in here. I don't really like your tone or approach. Sorry. No offense. I just don't get much out of a cold debate.

 

[3angelsmsg]

Not overlooking it, I just am not sure how to reconcile the two.

I really don't like cold conversations. I need to feel warmth from someone to make me want to spend much time conversing with them in here. I don't really like your tone or approach. Sorry. No offense. I just don't get much out of a cold debate.

I understand, this may be new to you and may look as it is not right or that scripture is contradicting it each other.

I don't like debating myself, but in the end the scripture should get preference over what we were taught. It doesn't matter how uncomfortable we feel our lives and thoughts should be brought in harmony with the word.

I cannot force you to believe what I believe. That is up to the Holy spirit to convice you. But truth is intolerant of error. Each one of us has God given ability to be able to choose reject or accept the truth.

 

[Bladerunner]

Hope this isn't too silly of a question.

I'm a nocturnal person. I've always loved the night. That's why I hope there will be nighttime in the hereafter.

Rev. 21:23..."And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof."

Oh, and Nighttime is the Absence of Light......Don't think there will be an absence of Light in New Jerusalem.


Does this answer your question?

Blessings

Blade

 

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

For the Saints who live in the New City Jerusalem that comes down out of Heaven to the Earth, there will be no day or night there. ( no need for such) It will always be lit with the light of the Father and Jesus Christ. But outside of the New City Jerusalem, there will be day and night on the Earth, which abideth forever. You can leave the Holy City and partake of the beautiful night, sunsets, stars, etc.. ...

From one new moon to another new moon and from one sabbath to another will all fresh come to worship before Lord God.

If there is not day or night. How will the saints know when is the Sabbath day.

The Saints come and go from the Holy City. We are reigning over the 144,000 humans left on the planet during the 1,000 year reign of Christ ON EARTH. Who do you think is going to teach the 144,000 children to fish, to build, to grow crops, to LOVE ONE ANOTHER?

Every new moon we will gather to eat fruit. So every month there will be different fruit to eat on the tree of life.

You do error in saying that every month there will be a Different fruit. Every Tree will produce 12 different fruits on the same Tree, and this is done Every MONTH.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

In Rev 21 or 22, it says there will be no sun or moon anymore and the gates will never be shut because it will never be nighttime. If I'm remembering correctly, it also says there will be no more ocean...

Inside the Holy City Jerusalem, there is no Day or Night. Inside the City where the Father is, Jesus is, and all the Saints live, there is no need for sleeping. OUTSIDE of the Holy City, the Earth continues to spin, the Earth continues to have days and nights, as it will forever and ever. And you are correct. There are no more oceans, ONLY Rivers which come from the HOLY City itself, will cover the Earth.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[tourist]

The Saints come and go from the Holy City. We are reigning over the 144,000 humans left on the planet during the 1,000 year reign of Christ ON EARTH. Who do you think is going to teach the 144,000 children to fish, to build, to grow crops, to LOVE ONE ANOTHER?



You do error in saying that every month there will be a Different fruit. Every Tree will produce 12 different fruits on the same Tree, and this is done Every MONTH.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

I don't see in the bible where it says that those that reign with Jesus during the 1000 years are going to reign over the 144,000. These are not children either but grown spiritual men. I don't think that they are going to be in need of someone to teach them to fish, build, to grow crops or love each other.

You are correct though in that there will indeed be day and night in the new earth but not in New Jerusalem. Also, correct on the Tree of Life producing a crop of 12 different fruits each month, and not 12 different crops of fruit, one crop for each month.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

For the Saints who live in the New City Jerusalem that comes down out of Heaven to the Earth, there will be no day or night there. ( no need for such) It will always be lit with the light of the Father and Jesus Christ. But outside of the New City Jerusalem, there will be day and night on the Earth, which abideth forever. You can leave the Holy City and partake of the beautiful night, sunsets, stars, etc.. ...

Originally Posted by Stunnedbygrace

In Rev 21 or 22, it says there will be no sun or moon anymore and the gates will never be shut because it will never be nighttime. If I'm remembering correctly, it also says there will be no more ocean...

I really do not understand how you overlook the scripture I shared with you.


Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

You should be able to compare scripture with scripture.

In the context of Rev 21 and 22, it is speaking in terms of the new Jerusalem, there it would not be need of the sun nor moon because the Jesus and God brightest light and glory.

Inside the Holy City Jerusalem, which is an "All enclosed Structure", there is no need for Day or Night there, it is INSIDE a building. Outside of the Holy City Jerusalem is the Earth. If it helps for you to understand, it is like unto an underground Bunker, where there is no day or night there either, but supplied with artificial lights. Inside the bunker there is no need for daylight or night time. The Holy City Jerusalem is a HUGE Building that Jesus is preparing for us to this day, and it will travel through space and land on this Planet, over where Jerusalem is today. This is the HOLY City which comes down out from Heaven. Inside the Holy City BUILDING, there is no need for Daylight or Night time, there. Jesus is the LIGHT of all 12 floors inside of that City. If you leave that Holy City, you are then in the atmosphere of the Earth, which continues to experience Days and Nights.

Gen_8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

God does not lie, He is not a Liar. ON Earth Day and Night shall not ever cease, exactly as God says they will not cease. But inside the Holy City, there is NO Day nor Night there. The HOLY City Jerusalem is all enclosed building, The atmosphere inside the Holy City is not even the same as the Earths atmosphere we have now. Do you have ears but are not hearing me?

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

The Saints come and go from the Holy City. We are reigning over the 144,000 humans left on the planet during the 1,000 year reign of Christ ON EARTH. Who do you think is going to teach the 144,000 children to fish, to build, to grow crops, to LOVE ONE ANOTHER?



You do error in saying that every month there will be a Different fruit. Every Tree will produce 12 different fruits on the same Tree, and this is done Every MONTH.

I don't see in the bible where it says that those that reign with Jesus during the 1000 years are going to reign over the 144,000. These are not children either but grown spiritual men. I don't think that they are going to be in need of someone to teach them to fish, build, to grow crops or love each other.

You continue to believe what you do, and i will continue to believe what God told me.

You are correct though in that there will indeed be day and night in the new earth but not in New Jerusalem. Also, correct on the Tree of Life producing a crop of 12 different fruits each month, and not 12 different crops of fruit, one crop for each month.

Why are you saying that i am correct? It is not i that am correct but the Word of God plainly teaches those things. Let the Word of God Be correct, and what i personally think and believe to be dung.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[Ahwatukee]

I don't see in the bible where it says that those that reign with Jesus during the 1000 years are going to reign over the 144,000. These are not children either but grown spiritual men. I don't think that they are going to be in need of someone to teach them to fish, build, to grow crops or love each other.

I agree with you here tourist. Regarding the 144,000, there is nothing in scripture that states that the glorified church reigns over them. Those whom we will rule over will be those great tribulation saints of all nations who make it through God's wrath alive and who will be repopulating the earth during the millennial period.

As further support that the 144,000 are adult males, we have scripture stating that "these are those who have not defiled themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure." - Rev.14:4

The reference to "not defiling themselves with women" would infer that these are all adult males, otherwise you wouldn't need to say that about children.

Regarding day and night on the new earth and new Jerusalem, there will be none, for the scripture states the following:

"And the city has no need for sun or moon to shine on it, because the glory of God illuminates the city, and the Lamb is its lamp. By its light the nations will walk, and into it the kings of the earth will bring their glory. Its gates will never be shut at the end of the day, because there will be no night there."

The reference to the new Jerusalem having no need for the sun or moon to shine on it, infers that there will be no sun or moon period. Furthermore, the scripture says that the glory of God will illuminate the city and that the nations will walk by its light on the earth. There will also be no more sea.



You are correct though in that there will indeed be day and night in the new earth but not in New Jerusalem. Also, correct on the Tree of Life producing a crop of 12 different fruits each month, and not 12 different crops of fruit, one crop for each month.

 

[Budman]

Gen_8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

You do realize that's talking about the old cursed earth (the one we're inhabiting now) not the new earth that will be created after this one is burned up with purifying fire. That's why in the verse you quoted it says "while" the earth remains. This earth.

"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." (2 Peter 3:10)

 

[Johnny_B]

Hope this isn't too silly of a question.

I'm a nocturnal person. I've always loved the night. That's why I hope there will be nighttime in the hereafter.

Revlation 21:22-25 “And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb.23 And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb.24 By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it,25 and its gates will never be shut by day—and there will be no night there.”

Revelation 22:5 “5 And night will be no more. They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever.”